Introduction:There is a lot of confusion as to who or what the Holy Ghost is. The Holy Ghost is the angel of the Lord, and we will prove that because most people think the Holy Ghost is apart of the God Head, and that is not the case. The angel is in the presence of the Lord, but is not the Lord at all. Angels are ministering spirits, not Gods. I can go so far as to tell you what the Holy Ghosts name is, but we are going to focus on showing that the Holy Ghost is an angel. If you read this with a preconceived thought, you will not learn period, and I can tell if you have learned or not by the Posts or if nobody posts. I always have to start out with these scriptures to show you I am bringing this Word just as the bible instructs. to the Law, and testimony, Precept upon precept, Line upon line, here a little, there a little. The scriptures are also of no private interpretation.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

2Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Isaiah 28:9-11 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.


Hezekiah: Just had to get that out of the way. The ones that teach knowledge learn from the milk of the Word, and it is learned precept upon precept line upon line here a little and there a little from the law and testimony. There is also no private interpretation of the scriptures, so what I read and understand everyone else should able to read and understand if they want to.

Deuteronomy 18:15-19 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Hezekiah: This is referring to when Moses was speaking to God by the mouth of the angel. We have to lay down the ground work before we get into the Precept of this thread. He said that he would raise up a prophet like Moses, and the people will listen to that Prophet as the children of Israel listened to Moses. This is the angel that told Moses this. We will see this later.

John 12:44-50 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Hezekiah: Ok. This is a testimony of Jesus coming to do what the Father sent him to do. This is that Prophet that God told Moses that he would send to the people. This is to show you that the Father sent Jesus, and when Jesus was on Earth, there was no Holy Ghost, and When Jesus died, there he is, waiting on Mary, and Peter and the others on the first day that many people think Jesus rose which is not true, but that is another lesson. This should show you that before Jesus came, there was the Holy Spirit, which is the angel, but Jesus was around there was no Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost because Jesus was on Earth, there was no need for a messenger, Jesus was the messenger when he was on Earth. Now we are going to read where Jesus told the people that he was going to send a comforter when he died.

John 14:14-17If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Hezekiah: So far we have God, the Father, and he sent a Prophet like unto Moses, which we found out was Jesus, and now we have the comforter, who is the spirit of truth. There was no Holy ghost around or spirit of truth around when Jesus was around because Jesus' words were spirit, and they were truth. This is why he is telling the people of the comforter he will bring when he dies, and resurrects back to the Father. I say back because that is where he came from. Remember The prophet like unto Moses. Now we are going to see what this Holy Ghost or spirit of truth does.

John 16:13-15 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Hezekiah: So the Spirit of Truth guides you into all truth, and he speaks not for himself. He is a ministering spirit. This is why Jesus didn't need him around when Jesus was on Earth in the Flesh. Jesus words are truth, and they are spirit, so why would you need the Spirit of truth, when you already have the truth that the Spirit of Truth was going to bring. Aint that simple? He said that he should glorify Jesus because all things that the Father has is Jesus' as well. No Holy Ghost as the Godhead so far, right? Hebrews is going to let you know that the angels ministering spirits, and they are to teach the people to be heirs of salvation.

Hebrews 1:13-14 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Hezekiah: This is letting you know that The angels are not equal to God the Father or God the Son. They are servant Spirits. So we have God telling Moses he was going to raise up a Prophet like unto Moses, and the People hear this prophet as they people heard Moses. We found out that the Prophet was Jesus, and then Jesus told us about the comforter he was going to bring because there was no need for a Spirit of truth because Jesus' words are truth, and Spirit. Let's go further.

Revelation 1:1-2 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Hezekiah: So back in John, that Spirit of Truth is an angel. He said that he sent and signified the Word by the angel unto his servant John. So, It is clear that the Godhead is 2 because the Spirit of truth is the angel, but we will go further to show that the angel is the Holy Ghost, and not apart of the Godhead. Jesus is going to tell you here as well.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Hezekiah:
Jesus said that he sent his angel to testify. This is the last book on the last page of the Bible. Still no Holy Ghost in the God Head.

Acts 8:26-29 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

Hezekiah: So, the angel is the spirit, and is the Spirit of Truth. It is the angel who speaks to man directly. God the Father, tells God the Son, and God the Son tells the angel, who is a ministering spirit, and the angel tells man. That is the Godhead, and God Head Protocol. Let's define angel, and Holy Spirit, then we are going to go to more Bible.

Holy Spirit: (n.) the spirit of God.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Holy+Spirit?db=luna

Angel (n.) one of a class of spiritual beings; a celestial attendant of God.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/angel

The angel was called the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament, and was called the Holy Ghost in the New Testament. We are going to see that in these next scriptures.

Acts 7:35-38 This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush. He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years. This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:


Hezekiah: Didn't we read this in Deuteronomy? I think we did. It was the angel that spoke to Moses at Mt. Sinai directly.

Judges 2:1-4 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you. And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this? Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you. And it came to pass, when the angel of the LORD spake these words unto all the children of Israel, that the people lifted up their voice, and wept.

Hezekiah: Do you see how the angel speaks exactly what thus saith the LOrd. This is why he is called the Spirit of Truth. The Holy Spirit, The Holy Ghost. He is in the presence of God, speaking the Word of God.

Exodus 23:20-22
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him. But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.

Hezekiah: We never see the angel or the Holy Spirit doing what he wants. Being apart of the God Head. I left out a lot of scriptures out of this lesson to not make it unbearable to read. Let's go further. We are going to break down this trinity interpretation.

1John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Hezekiah: There are 3 that bare record in Heaven. The Father who is the beginning of the Word. The Son, who is the Word, or record, and the Angel or Holy Ghost because he is in the Presence of God, and the messenger of God, and they all bring the same message. All these 3 are one because they all bring one message, as we are one body of Christ by keeping his commandments. Is that not simple? The simplicity of the Word.

Zachariah 4:1-6 And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a man that is wakened out of his sleep. And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof: And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof. So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying, What are these, my lord? Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Hezekiah: Again, the angel is speaking the Word of God. You can also see that when Jesus is not around in the Old Testament, the angel is the one delivering the message. When Jesus comes on the scene, you never read about the angel coming to anyone saying anything until Jesus dies. We read where Jesus was telling the people about the angel he was going to leave until his second coming, and that angel is still around to this day.

Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Daniel 8:15-18 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man. And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision. Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.

Hezekiah: Now we have a name. Gabriel. There are 3 that bare record or bare the Word in Heaven, right? So this has to be that angel, or Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost we have been reading about because there are 3 that bare a record in Heaven. If you bare a record, you have some information to give. The angel Micheal is the angel of war, and that is why he does not bare record, or have a message to give.

Daniel 9:21-22 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.

Matthew 1:18-25 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Hezekiah: Here is the same situation in Luke, and you will see that the Holy Ghost is Gabriel.

Luke 1:26-31 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

Hezekiah: Was this not the same time period from 2 different accounts? Matthew called the angel the Holy Ghost, and Luke called him Gabriel. The angel Gabriel is the Holy Ghost, or Holy Spirit, or Spirit of Truth.

Daniel 10:5-6 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.

Daniel 10:10-14 And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands. And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling. Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

Hezekiah: See this shows you that Micheal is not the messenger angel because Michael helped the messenger angel out, so that he could tell Daniel the vision that should fall on the people of the latter days. or in our generation because these are the last days make no mistake about it. Read Matthew 24, and it will show you the signs of the times. Now here in John 6:48 Jesus is talking about he is the bread of life.

John 6:48 I am that bread of life.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Hezekiah: Remember earlier when I said Jesus' words were spirit, and they were truth, well here is the scripture. You don't need the Spirit of Truth when the Lord's Words were Spirit and truth when he was in the flesh, and now they are spirit and truth in this book we call the Bible, and now that Jesus is risen, we have the angel Gabriel, the Messenger angel, the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit still in the presence of God opening our minds and hearts to the words of this Bible, so that we believe what is written down. Did not God say the new covenant was the law written in our hearts, and in our minds? Is this not simple?

John 6:68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

Hezekiah:
So, we found out that the Godhead is the Father, and the Son, and the Messenger angel is Gabriel, and he brings the word to man, and man brings the message of the Bible to all the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam. I hope you learned something from this lesson. Jesus had the words of eternal life, so the keeping of the commandments will seed eternal life, and Gabriel is the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament, and He is the Holy Ghost in the New Testament.

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Eccl 12:13 Again.....so simple!!!

Yes, it is, an angel would not need feeding, our Spirit man would, do you understand what the anointing of the Holy Spirit is according to Acts 2:4 ?
People like to use that scripture when they don't know the answer to the question that is posed. I was only trying to humbly inform because I have been given this knowledge by the Holy Ghost or Gabriel, who stands in the Presence of God.
the same Holy Ghost, comes upon us to endow us with power, not Gabriel

Read Luke 1. It will show you that the Holy Ghost is Gabriel in the New Testament, and The Holy Spirit in the Old Testament is Gabriel. How I know this is when Jesus was around there was no Holy Ghost, explain that?
Exactly Evangelist!
Exactly Evangelist!
Exactly Evangelist!
Bumped this thread because I don't think this subject was fully understood. Good Thread.
The Holy Ghost is not an Angel, the Holy Ghost is an Spirit. The Holy Ghost also is a part of the God Head[Father, Son, and Holy Ghost]
And where did this doctrine originate? Do you know who gave it to you?

Valentinus was a second century church leader who had some affiliation with what is now known as the Roman Catholic Church.

The Catholic Encyclopedia mentions:

Valentinus, the best known and most influential of the Gnostic heretics, was born according to Epiphanius (Haer., XXXI) on the coast of Egypt.

Notice what it is recorded that a one-time Catholic bishop named Marcellus of Ancyra wrote on the nature of God around the middle of the fourth century,

Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God...These then teach three hypostases, just as Valentinus the heresiarch first invented in the book entitled by him 'On the Three Natures'. For he was the first to invent three hypostases and three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes and Plato (Source: Logan A. Marcellus of Ancyra (Pseudo-Anthimus), 'On the Holy Church': Text, Translation and Commentary. Verses 8-9. Journal of Theological Studies, NS, Volume 51, Pt. 1, April 2000, p.95 ).

Hence the heretic Valentinus is the earliest known professing Christian writer to make clear trinitarian claims (though he, himself, did not come up with the term trinity--Tertullian is credited with coming up with that term several decades after Valentinus' death).


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This is not true what you are saying Brother Valentine According to the Bible. You lean to theology in this precept. What is the root word of theology. Theory.... right.... So, why would you believe theory over the Bible itself? I can also answer that question. It is because you do not serve the God of this Bible. You serve the God of this world.
I see nobody wants to talk truth. Just lies, and heresies.
You have no understanding .

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