The Reality of "Down Low Living" The Black church and community. - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T00:18:38Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/the-reality-of-down-low-living?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A1078710&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNewview,
You have made a good…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-11-03:916966:Comment:10787102009-11-03T11:22:28.262ZMin. Jacksonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinJackson
Newview,<br />
You have made a good point here, some sins can bring down whole families, towns and nations. Homosexuality and down low living is definitely one of them. Unfortunately, as you have said, the churches want to down play down low living as if someone forgot to close the door behind them and let a small draft into the room.<br />
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It is much more serious than that when you consider the consequences of this low down lifestyle.
Newview,<br />
You have made a good point here, some sins can bring down whole families, towns and nations. Homosexuality and down low living is definitely one of them. Unfortunately, as you have said, the churches want to down play down low living as if someone forgot to close the door behind them and let a small draft into the room.<br />
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It is much more serious than that when you consider the consequences of this low down lifestyle. You know Anthony I was wonder…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-11-03:916966:Comment:10787052009-11-03T11:14:53.188ZMin. Jacksonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinJackson
You know Anthony I was wondering the same thing but glad you said it first. I think we might be surprised at those that struggle with this issue. It's probably inward and that's where they want to keep it. But then again, maybe some don't respond because they are like those pastors who just don't won't to deal with the issue in hopes that it will just go away.<br />
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Unfortunately, those who are on the down low will feel empowered by the lack of concern for their lawless behavior and will continue…
You know Anthony I was wondering the same thing but glad you said it first. I think we might be surprised at those that struggle with this issue. It's probably inward and that's where they want to keep it. But then again, maybe some don't respond because they are like those pastors who just don't won't to deal with the issue in hopes that it will just go away.<br />
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Unfortunately, those who are on the down low will feel empowered by the lack of concern for their lawless behavior and will continue on. Until this results in shame and repentance, we may just start to see a rash of brothers kicking the closet door down and declaring their low down behavior. Gay choir directors and music…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-11-03:916966:Comment:10783622009-11-03T03:39:50.153ZMin. Jacksonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinJackson
Gay choir directors and musicians is usually the gateway. I find it rather strange that this is the case but your pastor made the right decision by asking him to step down. But what is the point if you don't address the persons problem because that only solved the churches problem but the brother was still left hangin without any counseling or help.
Gay choir directors and musicians is usually the gateway. I find it rather strange that this is the case but your pastor made the right decision by asking him to step down. But what is the point if you don't address the persons problem because that only solved the churches problem but the brother was still left hangin without any counseling or help. Yeah it is a sham brother. I…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-11-03:916966:Comment:10783602009-11-03T03:37:15.112ZMin. Jacksonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinJackson
Yeah it is a sham brother. I think that starting a dialogue on a subject such as this might actually give courage to speak for those who want deliverance. Not all want to remain like this but for those that do it ain't much you can do but pray for them and relieve them from positions of leadership until their change comes.<br />
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As for more brothers not responding to this, I think fear of positive dialogue even for straight up brothers keeps them away. I guess somehow they may think they will get…
Yeah it is a sham brother. I think that starting a dialogue on a subject such as this might actually give courage to speak for those who want deliverance. Not all want to remain like this but for those that do it ain't much you can do but pray for them and relieve them from positions of leadership until their change comes.<br />
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As for more brothers not responding to this, I think fear of positive dialogue even for straight up brothers keeps them away. I guess somehow they may think they will get infected or affected by talking about it. We had a gay music ministry l…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-11-03:916966:Comment:10781922009-11-03T01:59:58.013ZChaplain Pat Harrishttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ChaplainPatHarris
We had a gay music ministry leader for years until a couple of years ago when it was decided by the pastor and other officers of the church that having a gay person in leadership sets a very back example and it compromises the integrity of our church and its doctrine. So, they released him with severance pay, of course. He has since relocated to Germany. Unfortunately, our church still does not address sexual sin in its Bible Study or Sunday School classes.
We had a gay music ministry leader for years until a couple of years ago when it was decided by the pastor and other officers of the church that having a gay person in leadership sets a very back example and it compromises the integrity of our church and its doctrine. So, they released him with severance pay, of course. He has since relocated to Germany. Unfortunately, our church still does not address sexual sin in its Bible Study or Sunday School classes. I see this is one of those so…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-11-02:916966:Comment:10780522009-11-02T23:45:12.354ZMin. Jacksonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinJackson
I see this is one of those sore subjects in the body of Christ and rightfully so. Most of us either know someone personally or know someone who knows someone who practices this lifestyle in the church. I must say though that until we deal people can't heal. I mean deal as in praying these people through.
I see this is one of those sore subjects in the body of Christ and rightfully so. Most of us either know someone personally or know someone who knows someone who practices this lifestyle in the church. I must say though that until we deal people can't heal. I mean deal as in praying these people through. Amen Min. Jackson. Too many h…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-31:916966:Comment:10738642009-10-31T03:37:06.567ZChaplain Pat Harrishttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ChaplainPatHarris
Amen Min. Jackson. Too many hurting saints are sinking deeper into their pain and suffering and as a result, they are being hindered in their growth. If <i>ALL</i> acts of sin were not important, they would not be listed in the Bible in the first place. But God's word says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17. . .<br />
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<b>"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof (t<i>o tell one what is wrong</i>), for correction (<i>to tell one how to correct wrong</i>), for…</b>
Amen Min. Jackson. Too many hurting saints are sinking deeper into their pain and suffering and as a result, they are being hindered in their growth. If <i>ALL</i> acts of sin were not important, they would not be listed in the Bible in the first place. But God's word says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17. . .<br />
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<b>"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof (t<i>o tell one what is wrong</i>), for correction (<i>to tell one how to correct wrong</i>), for instruction in righteousness (<i>to tell one how to live</i>): That the man of God may be perfect (<i>proficient, capable, having everything needed to do what God wants</i>), thoroughly furnished (<i>thoroughly equipped</i>) unto all good works."<br />
</b> Yeah, sadly sister too many c…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-31:916966:Comment:10738162009-10-31T03:23:09.306ZMin. Jacksonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinJackson
Yeah, sadly sister too many churches don't care about the sister getting and dying from aids as long as the music keeps playing and the money keeps coming in. Instead of ministering to these down low brothers they say nothing at all while they contract aids and die in their sins. This video really sheds some light on how the church should be looking at this problem.
Yeah, sadly sister too many churches don't care about the sister getting and dying from aids as long as the music keeps playing and the money keeps coming in. Instead of ministering to these down low brothers they say nothing at all while they contract aids and die in their sins. This video really sheds some light on how the church should be looking at this problem. Yeah. That is the height of h…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-31:916966:Comment:10737392009-10-31T02:41:12.266Znewviewhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/newview
Yeah. That is the height of hypocrisy.<br />
LET ME KNOW that you into that kind of stuff so I can make a choice whether or not to marry you.<br />
Or if it is too shameful <i>(bless the heart of a man that still thinks its shameful)</i> then dont tell me but move on down the road.<br />
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You know - they still say that homosexuality is a sin but they lump it together with misrepresenting your income on your taxes. Yeah they are all sin.<br />
Or its like being angry too long with your next door neighbor. Yeah its…
Yeah. That is the height of hypocrisy.<br />
LET ME KNOW that you into that kind of stuff so I can make a choice whether or not to marry you.<br />
Or if it is too shameful <i>(bless the heart of a man that still thinks its shameful)</i> then dont tell me but move on down the road.<br />
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You know - they still say that homosexuality is a sin but they lump it together with misrepresenting your income on your taxes. Yeah they are all sin.<br />
Or its like being angry too long with your next door neighbor. Yeah its sin.<br />
But some sins will bring down a family or a town or a nation.<br />
For me - some sins are bigger and badder...<i>But thats me.</i> I can certainly understand yo…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2009-10-31:916966:Comment:10737232009-10-31T02:26:33.022ZMin. Jacksonhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/MinJackson
I can certainly understand your point seeing that Down Low brothers are attracting diseases and infecting their wive's and girlfriends. This is where the Nasty really takes place in the fact that there is no warning or protection for the sisters.
I can certainly understand your point seeing that Down Low brothers are attracting diseases and infecting their wive's and girlfriends. This is where the Nasty really takes place in the fact that there is no warning or protection for the sisters.