Is The Trinity Biblical?
From the Christian Research Institute
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The Trinity is a basic doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Yet the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Is the doctrine of the Trinity really biblical?
The doctrine of the Trinity says that there is one All Mighty One (God) who exists eternally as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I can assure you that the elements of this doctrine are all taken directly from the Bible.
The first plank of the Trinitarian platform is that there is only one All Mighty One (God). The Bible could not be more explicit on this point, which it states explicitly about two dozen times. In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!
Yahshua (Jesus) often spoke of the All Mighty One (God) as His Father, and the apostles frequently spoke of "the Almighty One (God) the Father." But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God). For example, Thomas acknowledged Yahshua (Jesus) as, "My Lord(master) and my Almighty One (God)" (John 20:28), and both Peter and Paul spoke of Yahshua (Jesus) as "our All Mighty One (God) and Savior" (2 Pet. 1:1; Tit. 2:13). Yet the New Testament also makes the distinction between the Father and the Son as two very different persons. In fact they tell us that they love one another, speak to each other, and seek to glorify each other (e.g., John 17: 1-26).
The Old Testament refers often to the Holy Spirit as The Almighty One (God) at work in the world, without distinction from the Father. But Yahshua (Jesus) in John 14 to 16 explained that this Holy Spirit would be sent by the Father at the Messiah’s (Christ's) request. The Holy Spirit would teach and guide the disciples, not speaking on His own initiative, but speaking on the Messiah’s 9Christ's) behalf and glorifying The messiah (Christ). Thus, the Holy Spirit is revealed by The Messiah (Christ) to be a third person distinct from the Father and distinct from the Son.
In short, the doctrine of the Trinity is completely and totally biblical, and it is essential that all the Followers of the Messiah Yahshua (Christians) give assent to this doctrine.

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Brother Anthony Watson, the very meaning of the Word "ANOTHER" can be found in the following biblical passage: Matthew 13:13-15

Indeed, Jesus said:

"13This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'[a]"

Brother, you put the stress on the word "ANOTHER" simply because you are spiritually blind. I must pray for you so that our Lord can open yours eyes, since your heart has become calloused; you hardly hear with your ears, and you have closed your eyes...

Brother Anthony Watson, how could the Holy Spirit be ANOTHER Person, different from Jesus While Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you..." ?

In which form will Jesus come to us after He rose up?

Jesus said again:

"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."

Brother Anthony Watson, please tell me, In which form will Jesus be with two or three who come together in His name, after He rose up?

Indeed, Brother Paul has said:

“I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me”.

Galatians 2:20

Brother Anthony Watson, please, tell me, Isn’t the Holy Spirit, Christ living in Brother Paul yesterday and in each believer today?

Don’t you know that “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever”?

Hebrews 13:8

O my Lord, please open the eyes of the Trinitarians because They are misled!!!!!!

Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the wise and learned (Matthew 11:25).

Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the blind men(Matthew 13:13-15).

Indeed, Jesus said:

“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

John 14:16-18

Indeed, Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you"

"...I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor…."

Here, we see that the FATHER is the One who will give us another Counselor…

But it is also written:

"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me”.

John 15:26

Here, we notice that JESUS is the One who will give us another Counselor…

Brother Anthony Watson, do you see TWO PERSONS (THE FATHER and JESUS) Who would be the senders of the same Counselor?

Besides, Jesus said:

“ The Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you…”

Brother Anthony Watson, according to Galatians 2:20, 1 Corinthians 6:12 and Romans 8: 9-11, isn’t Jesus the same Counsolor, the same Holy Spirit He promised He would be in us?

“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Revelation 3:22

Blessings,

Bro. Germain
Bro. Anthony Watson,

I will cut and paste my message above till you answer all my questions!

Please, try to do it and you will discover at last your spiritual blindness!!!!!

Blessings,

Bro. Germain
Thank you my brother and I understand your point.
Rev Derek: But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God).

False.

Careful study of the NT, in its original form and language will show that this isn't the case. Very quickly, 3 points.

1) In John 8. the pharisees said "we have one father, even G-d". As part of his response to the pharisees Yeshua said that it was his father who honored him "whom ye say that he is your G-d". We already know that there was a debate over this hundreds of years after Yeshua died so it would be out of ignorance to act as if everyone always knew what Christians are now claiming because of their tradition. Yeshua clearly said that it is his father that people knew of as G-d. That's point number 1.

2) Mark 12:29-34. Yeshua is asked about the greatest commandment. When one reaches the level of study he was at one understands that the law is one and all parts are equal. Eating fruit you're not supposed to can result in the same hell as committing murder. So cleverly, Yeshua responds with Deuteronomy 6:4 which is known of as the Shema. The shema was something that the Israelites were commanded to repeat 3 times a day. Obviously, this is something that G-d wanted them to be clear on. He would not have them practice such a ritual if it was pointless and they wouldn't know the truth. The correct interpretation of the shema is demonstrated by the scribe.

Mark 12:32 - And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one G-d; and there is none other but he:

He doesn't say, none other but "them". He says none other but "he". And anyone attempting to use the Hebrew word "elohim" to say this means more than one god, let me warn you. I know exactly what it means and I would be happy to correct you. The scribe reveals a very learned understanding of the scripture and Yeshua doesn't disagree. In fact what he says back are congratulatory remarks. "You are not far from the kingdom of G-d". He's praising his understanding. This is very different from how he thinks of and speaks to the other scribes.

3) John 17:3. If you are in a race and are the first one to finish and also the last one to finish, how is this possible? It's only possible because you are the ONLY one in the race. This is what it means when YHWH says "I am the first. I am the last." "Beside me there is no god". Now we should all know enough English by now to know that "me" is singular" The idea that the word G-d can be speaking of one G-d but in three persons is not supported by ANYTHING in the bible or the Hebrew language. Now this isn't to say that no one can see any reason to be confused. Sure there are things in the bible that make it seem like "Jesus" is G-d. Sure. However, there is nothing in the bible that makes it even seem like the concept of one G-d allows for more than one person. This 3-in-1 effect is actually created by Christians and is not supported by the bible. In other words, you change the rules around to match your theory instead of dismissing your theory when it bumps its head into a massive brick wall. One such wall is John 17:3. Yeshua should not have to say it (no one should), but it is a statement of faith, ever since Abraham, for them to declare their belief in one G-d. Yeshua calls the Father the "ONLY TRUE G-D". When only ONE is true then the rest are false. Here is also where that English comprehension comes in at. If he isn't speaking to or about himself when saying "ONLY TRUE G-D" then he has be definition excluded himself from this title and distinction. If I say you are the only true Christian then I'm either lying or no one else, including myself could be a true Christian (I'm not by the way - although I am a follower of the messiah).

shalom
Rev Derek: In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!

This shouldn't be overlooked. It's not some trio of gods speaking this claiming 'they' do not know of other 'gods' besides 'themselves'. This is YHWH speaking and that is his name.

Isaiah 42:8 - I am YHWH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

one more...

Psalms 83:18 - That men may know that thou, whose name alone is YHWH, art the most high over all the earth.

Only one has the name YHWH and this ONE G-d does not know any other gods (not real ones at least) beside himself. And he made this distinction that further proves his singularity.

Deuteronomy 32:39 - See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

this statement would not be true if there was a 2nd or 3rd person of some trinity. YHWH is not the author of confusion. If he was part of a triad like the pagan gods he would have told us so. The idea that this is something you have to discover by hopping around the bible is ridiculous.

shalom
Brother Anthony Watson, the very meaning of the Word "ANOTHER" can be found in the following biblical passage: Matthew 13:13-15

Indeed, Jesus said:

"13This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'[a]"

Brother, you put the stress on the word "ANOTHER" simply because you are spiritually blind. I must pray for you so that our Lord can open yours eyes, since your heart has become calloused; you hardly hear with your ears, and you have closed your eyes...

Brother Anthony Watson, how could the Holy Spirit be ANOTHER Person, different from Jesus While Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you..." ?

In which form will Jesus come to us after He rose up?

Jesus said again:

"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."

Brother Anthony Watson, please tell me, In which form will Jesus be with two or three who come together in His name, after He rose up?

Indeed, Brother Paul has said:

“I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me”.

Galatians 2:20

Brother Anthony Watson, please, tell me, Isn’t the Holy Spirit, Christ living in Brother Paul yesterday and in each believer today?

Don’t you know that “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever”?

Hebrews 13:8

O my Lord, please open the eyes of the Trinitarians because They are misled!!!!!!

Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the wise and learned (Matthew 11:25).

Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the blind men(Matthew 13:13-15).

Indeed, Jesus said:

“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

John 14:16-18

Indeed, Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you"

"...I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor…."

Here, we see that the FATHER is the One who will give us another Counselor…

But it is also written:

"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me”.

John 15:26

Here, we notice that JESUS is the One who will give us another Counselor…

Brother Anthony Watson, do you see TWO PERSONS (THE FATHER and JESUS) Who would be the senders of the same Counselor?

Besides, Jesus said:

“ The Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you…”

Brother Anthony Watson, according to Galatians 2:20, 1 Corinthians 6:12 and Romans 8: 9-11, isn’t Jesus the same Counsolor, the same Holy Spirit He promised He would be in us?

“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Revelation 3:22

Blessings,

Bro. Germain
Bro. Anthony Watson,


I may be ignorant!


BUT CAN MY IGNORANCE PREVENT YOU FROM ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS ABOVE?

BY YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE, I SEE THAT YOUR BACK IS AGAINST THE WALL!


I ask you one thing. Please answer all my questions above!

Please, try to do it and you will discover at last your spiritual blindness!!!!!

This is not a wasting of time but you clearly see that YOUR BACK IS AGAINST A HUGE WALL!

Please, do not flee, but answer me, spiritually blind man!

Blessings,

Bro. Germain
My brother, Yahweh is expressed through three persons (John 1:1-5)
From my sermon: When Yahweh became a man
Yahweh = God, or The LORD
"Yahshua" is the Hebrew name for Jesus. "Jesus" is how you say Yahshua in Greek. Yahshua and Jesus mean "Yahweh is my Salvation"


John 1:1-3 THE ETERNAL CHRIST OR MESSIAH (which means THE ANOINTED ONE)

Vs. 1 says in the Beginning... that means in the beginning when time and the universe was created, but before that, Yahweh always existed through three persons called the First person, Second person, and the third person of the Godhead. The First person is called the Father Yahweh, the second person when he became a man is called Yahshua (which means Yahweh is salvation) and the the third person is called the Holy Spirit. Yahshua said in John 8:58 "before Abraham was I AM" meaning that before Abraham existed He, (Yahshua) existed as Yahweh the second person of the Godhead.

Vs. 1 also says that "In the beginning was "THE WORD".... "THE WORD" means in the Greek logos. To the Greeks Logos is the great creator of everything that exist, they just did not know who He was. The Jews in the Old Testament and in the New Testament new what "THE WORD" meant. To them it meant the same thing. That Yahweh is "THE WORD". You here phrases all the time through out the Old Testament "....and the Word of the LORD (Yahweh).....

Vs. 1 also says that "In the beginning was the word "AND THE WORD WAS WITH YAHWEH". The WORD is Yahshua. Yahshua (the WORD) was with Yahweh. Phil. 2:6-8 says "who (Yahshua) being in the form (IS THE HUMAN IMAGE) of Yahweh, did not consider it robbery to be equal with Yahweh, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross."
Vs. 1 also says that "and Yahshua (THE WORD) was Yahweh" which means Yahshua and Yahweh have the same essence flowing through them. They have always existed, neither one was created.

Vs. 2 says "He (THE WORD or Yahshua) was in the beginning with Yahweh". Vs. 3 says "All things were made through Him (THE WORD or Yahshua) and without Him (THE WORD or Yahshua) nothing was made that was made.
Col. 1:16,17 says "For by Him (Yahshua) all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities, or powers. all things were created through Him (Yahshua) and for Him (Yahshua).


John 1:4,5 THE INCARNATE CHRIST OR MESSIAH (which means THE ANOINTED ONE)

Vs. 4 says "In Him (Yahshua) was life, and the life was the light of men." Yahshua is the one who has and gives eternal life (John 1:9; 3:16; 9:5; 1 John 1:5-7).

Vs 5 says "And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it". Light always shines and everyone sees the light even in the darkest room. When the light is turned on everyone is drawn to the light. Everyone except the blind.
comprehend in the Greek means "overcome". So darkness can never overcome the spiritual light of Yahshua who is Yahweh in a human body. Remember Yahweh is expressed through three persons, the first second, and third person of the Godhead.
Brother Derek Joshua E'Lon,

I thank you for your message above,

BUT, please answer all my questions above!


Blessings,

Bro. Germain
Brother Derek Joshua E'Lon,

I thank you for your message above,

BUT, please answer all my questions above!


Blessings,

Bro. Germain

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