The Trinity is Bibical
Is The Trinity Biblical?
From the Christian Research Institute
www.equip.org
The Trinity is a basic doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Yet the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Is the doctrine of the Trinity really biblical?
The doctrine of the Trinity says that there is one All Mighty One (God) who exists eternally as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I can assure you that the elements of this doctrine are all taken directly from the Bible.
The first plank of the Trinitarian platform is that there is only one All Mighty One (God). The Bible could not be more explicit on this point, which it states explicitly about two dozen times. In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!
Yahshua (Jesus) often spoke of the All Mighty One (God) as His Father, and the apostles frequently spoke of "the Almighty One (God) the Father." But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God). For example, Thomas acknowledged Yahshua (Jesus) as, "My Lord(master) and my Almighty One (God)" (John 20:28), and both Peter and Paul spoke of Yahshua (Jesus) as "our All Mighty One (God) and Savior" (2 Pet. 1:1; Tit. 2:13). Yet the New Testament also makes the distinction between the Father and the Son as two very different persons. In fact they tell us that they love one another, speak to each other, and seek to glorify each other (e.g., John 17: 1-26).
The Old Testament refers often to the Holy Spirit as The Almighty One (God) at work in the world, without distinction from the Father. But Yahshua (Jesus) in John 14 to 16 explained that this Holy Spirit would be sent by the Father at the Messiah’s (Christ's) request. The Holy Spirit would teach and guide the disciples, not speaking on His own initiative, but speaking on the Messiah’s 9Christ's) behalf and glorifying The messiah (Christ). Thus, the Holy Spirit is revealed by The Messiah (Christ) to be a third person distinct from the Father and distinct from the Son.
In short, the doctrine of the Trinity is completely and totally biblical, and it is essential that all the Followers of the Messiah Yahshua (Christians) give assent to this doctrine.
From the Christian Research Institute
www.equip.org
The Trinity is a basic doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Yet the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Is the doctrine of the Trinity really biblical?
The doctrine of the Trinity says that there is one All Mighty One (God) who exists eternally as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I can assure you that the elements of this doctrine are all taken directly from the Bible.
The first plank of the Trinitarian platform is that there is only one All Mighty One (God). The Bible could not be more explicit on this point, which it states explicitly about two dozen times. In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!
Yahshua (Jesus) often spoke of the All Mighty One (God) as His Father, and the apostles frequently spoke of "the Almighty One (God) the Father." But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God). For example, Thomas acknowledged Yahshua (Jesus) as, "My Lord(master) and my Almighty One (God)" (John 20:28), and both Peter and Paul spoke of Yahshua (Jesus) as "our All Mighty One (God) and Savior" (2 Pet. 1:1; Tit. 2:13). Yet the New Testament also makes the distinction between the Father and the Son as two very different persons. In fact they tell us that they love one another, speak to each other, and seek to glorify each other (e.g., John 17: 1-26).
The Old Testament refers often to the Holy Spirit as The Almighty One (God) at work in the world, without distinction from the Father. But Yahshua (Jesus) in John 14 to 16 explained that this Holy Spirit would be sent by the Father at the Messiah’s (Christ's) request. The Holy Spirit would teach and guide the disciples, not speaking on His own initiative, but speaking on the Messiah’s 9Christ's) behalf and glorifying The messiah (Christ). Thus, the Holy Spirit is revealed by The Messiah (Christ) to be a third person distinct from the Father and distinct from the Son.
In short, the doctrine of the Trinity is completely and totally biblical, and it is essential that all the Followers of the Messiah Yahshua (Christians) give assent to this doctrine.
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Permalink Reply by Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene on
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Germaine, can your Oneness Doctrine produce anything else besides the same combo of scriptures that you centered on?
Also, can you please respond to my post and question?
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Permalink Reply by N'ZI Amani Germain on
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Brother Anthony Watson, the very meaning of the Word "ANOTHER" can be found in the following biblical passage: Matthew 13:13-15
Indeed, Jesus said:
"13This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'[a]"
Brother, you put the stress on the word "ANOTHER" simply because you are spiritually blind. I must pray for you so that our Lord can open yours eyes, since your heart has become calloused; you hardly hear with your ears, and you have closed your eyes...
Brother Anthony Watson, how could the Holy Spirit be ANOTHER Person, different from Jesus While Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you..." ?
In which form will Jesus come to us after He rose up?
Jesus said again:
"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
Brother Anthony Watson, please tell me, In which form will Jesus be with two or three who come together in His name, after He rose up?
Indeed, Brother Paul has said:
“I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me”.
Galatians 2:20
Brother Anthony Watson, please, tell me, Isn’t the Holy Spirit, Christ living in Brother Paul yesterday and in each believer today?
Don’t you know that “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever”?
Hebrews 13:8
O my Lord, please open the eyes of the Trinitarians because They are misled!!!!!!
Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the wise and learned (Matthew 11:25).
Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the blind men(Matthew 13:13-15).
Indeed, Jesus said:
“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
John 14:16-18
Indeed, Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you"
"...I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor…."
Here, we see that the FATHER is the One who will give us another Counselor…
But it is also written:
"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me”.
John 15:26
Here, we notice that JESUS is the One who will give us another Counselor…
Brother Anthony Watson, do you see TWO PERSONS (THE FATHER and JESUS) Who would be the senders of the same Counselor?
Besides, Jesus said:
“ The Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you…”
Brother Anthony Watson, according to Galatians 2:20, 1 Corinthians 6:12 and Romans 8: 9-11, isn’t Jesus the same Counsolor, the same Holy Spirit He promised He would be in us?
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Revelation 3:22
Blessings,
Bro. Germain
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Permalink Reply by James Pierce on
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Anthony,
From a Hebraic perspective, calling Yahushua "God" does not make Him YAHUAH. Calling the Holy Spirit "God" does not make Him YAHUAH. The Greek can be confusing, I must admit, but understanding the Hebraic mindset clears away many cobwebs.
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Anthony,
You are substituting the Hebrew mindset for the Greek mindset. Hebrew understanding of the word "God" is Elohim, which has several meanings, and the designated meaning being "mighty one." When the Hebrew scriptures calls someone "Elohim", they are calling them one who is strong and mighty. Never does it ever mean a supreme being
Psalm 82 says,"Ye are Gods." This scripture is referring to actual men. Are they Yahuah? NO! Because Elohim is not designated to a supreme being. Judges, angels, and men were called Elohim.
The Father is called "God", yes. But what does that mean in the Hebrew mindset? It means that HE IS A MIGHTY ONE.
the Son is called "God", yes, but what does that mean in the Hebrew mindset? It means that HE IS A MIGHTY ONE.
The Holy Spirit is called "God", yes, but what does that mean in the Hebrew mindset? It means that HE IS A MIGHTY ONE.
Thats all it means. There's no known scripture, without manipulation, that proves that Yahushua is actually Yahuah, and there's no known scripture, without manipulation, that proves the Holy Spirit being Yahuah. Unless you get Hebrew mindset, then you will fail everytime. I PROMISE YOU that!
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Anthony,
Another thing, I wrote a mini-article on Isaiah 9 and how its not a prophecy of Messiah, especially if you consider the Septuagint, THE OLDEST translation of the OT. There is a complete difference between Isaiah 9 in the Masoretic text, and Isaiah 9 in the Septuagint.
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Brother Anthony Watson, the very meaning of the Word "ANOTHER" can be found in the following biblical passage: Matthew 13:13-15
Indeed, Jesus said:
"13This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'[a]"
Brother, you put the stress on the word "ANOTHER" simply because you are spiritually blind. I must pray for you so that our Lord can open yours eyes, since your heart has become calloused; you hardly hear with your ears, and you have closed your eyes...
Brother Anthony Watson, how could the Holy Spirit be ANOTHER Person, different from Jesus While Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you..." ?
In which form will Jesus come to us after He rose up?
Jesus said again:
"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
Brother Anthony Watson, please tell me, In which form will Jesus be with two or three who come together in His name, after He rose up?
Indeed, Brother Paul has said:
“I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me”.
Galatians 2:20
Brother Anthony Watson, please, tell me, Isn’t the Holy Spirit, Christ living in Brother Paul yesterday and in each believer today?
Don’t you know that “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever”?
Hebrews 13:8
O my Lord, please open the eyes of the Trinitarians because They are misled!!!!!!
Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the wise and learned (Matthew 11:25).
Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the blind men(Matthew 13:13-15).
Indeed, Jesus said:
“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
John 14:16-18
Indeed, Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you"
"...I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor…."
Here, we see that the FATHER is the One who will give us another Counselor…
But it is also written:
"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me”.
John 15:26
Here, we notice that JESUS is the One who will give us another Counselor…
Brother Anthony Watson, do you see TWO PERSONS (THE FATHER and JESUS) Who would be the senders of the same Counselor?
Besides, Jesus said:
“ The Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you…”
Brother Anthony Watson, according to Galatians 2:20, 1 Corinthians 6:12 and Romans 8: 9-11, isn’t Jesus the same Counsolor, the same Holy Spirit He promised He would be in us?
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Revelation 3:22
Blessings,
Bro. Germain
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Newview,
The Messiah was not called that in Isaiah 9. In fact, that whole chapter isn't even about Messiah! Do you read the Septuagint? Read Isaiah 9 in the Septuagint, and you WILL get a WHOLE DIFFERENT READING
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Newview,
Do this for me. Read chapters 7-9 in your Hebrew bible, and then read the same chapters in the Septuagint. Let me give you the Septuagint link of Isaiah(YeshaYAHU).... http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/33-esaias-nets.pdf
Have fun, and get back with me.
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Permalink Reply by newview on
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James,
I read it. I dont like that translation. HahHah!
But seriously - I dont think I have to worry about fearing that I am drawn to the Masoretic text instead of the Septuagint because from what I understant - the Septuagint was translated by Jews in the 3rd century BC, and therefore were not affected by the Christian understanding of Jesus being God.
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Brother Anthony Watson, the very meaning of the Word "ANOTHER" can be found in the following biblical passage: Matthew 13:13-15
Indeed, Jesus said:
"13This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'[a]"
Brother, you put the stress on the word "ANOTHER" simply because you are spiritually blind. I must pray for you so that our Lord can open yours eyes, since your heart has become calloused; you hardly hear with your ears, and you have closed your eyes...
Brother Anthony Watson, how could the Holy Spirit be ANOTHER Person, different from Jesus While Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you..." ?
In which form will Jesus come to us after He rose up?
Jesus said again:
"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
Brother Anthony Watson, please tell me, In which form will Jesus be with two or three who come together in His name, after He rose up?
Indeed, Brother Paul has said:
“I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me”.
Galatians 2:20
Brother Anthony Watson, please, tell me, Isn’t the Holy Spirit, Christ living in Brother Paul yesterday and in each believer today?
Don’t you know that “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever”?
Hebrews 13:8
O my Lord, please open the eyes of the Trinitarians because They are misled!!!!!!
Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the wise and learned (Matthew 11:25).
Truly speaking, the word “ANOTHER” was written expressly to confound the blind men(Matthew 13:13-15).
Indeed, Jesus said:
“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
John 14:16-18
Indeed, Jesus has said: "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you"
"...I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor…."
Here, we see that the FATHER is the One who will give us another Counselor…
But it is also written:
"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me”.
John 15:26
Here, we notice that JESUS is the One who will give us another Counselor…
Brother Anthony Watson, do you see TWO PERSONS (THE FATHER and JESUS) Who would be the senders of the same Counselor?
Besides, Jesus said:
“ The Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you…”
Brother Anthony Watson, according to Galatians 2:20, 1 Corinthians 6:12 and Romans 8: 9-11, isn’t Jesus the same Counsolor, the same Holy Spirit He promised He would be in us?
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Revelation 3:22
Blessings,
Bro. Germain
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