Theory Removed: The Council of Nicea (325 A.D.) - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T15:49:30Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/theory-removed-the-council-of-nicea-325-a-d?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A2767089&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOK, just making sure here. I…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-30:916966:Comment:27717502011-11-30T01:27:26.912ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
<p>OK, just making sure here. I nearly got lost on this and this is my own subject! LOL</p>
<p>OK, just making sure here. I nearly got lost on this and this is my own subject! LOL</p> True Paul did say that Elder,…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-30:916966:Comment:27717342011-11-30T00:45:19.646ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
<p>True Paul did say that Elder, but he didn't say "Great is the mystery of the nature/essence of God", he said "Great is the mystery of godliness". There is a difference between the two. </p>
<p>True Paul did say that Elder, but he didn't say "Great is the mystery of the nature/essence of God", he said "Great is the mystery of godliness". There is a difference between the two. </p> Wait Rev. Watson. are we talk…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-30:916966:Comment:27717332011-11-30T00:41:54.004ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
<p>Wait Rev. Watson. are we talking 1st Ecumenical Council, or 4th Ecumenical Council here (Council in Chalcedon and the Nestorianism controversy)?</p>
<p>Wait Rev. Watson. are we talking 1st Ecumenical Council, or 4th Ecumenical Council here (Council in Chalcedon and the Nestorianism controversy)?</p> 1. No, not all of the ecclesi…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-29:916966:Comment:27712882011-11-29T22:19:53.045ZMaurice Edwardshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/PastorMauriceDEdwards
<p>1. No, not all of the ecclesiastical or liturgical details were laid out, but some instructions and terms were. I think if "Popes" were called to lead in the church Jesus or Paul would have instructed them too by name.</p>
<p>2. The meaning of the term "Pope" isn't consistant with any ministry in the church. An elder/pastor/bishop/shepherd has a meaning related to the ministry and work called by the Lord, and appointed by the apostles (Paul) The heart of God is for us to obey his Word. The…</p>
<p>1. No, not all of the ecclesiastical or liturgical details were laid out, but some instructions and terms were. I think if "Popes" were called to lead in the church Jesus or Paul would have instructed them too by name.</p>
<p>2. The meaning of the term "Pope" isn't consistant with any ministry in the church. An elder/pastor/bishop/shepherd has a meaning related to the ministry and work called by the Lord, and appointed by the apostles (Paul) The heart of God is for us to obey his Word. The instructions of his apostles are scripture that we must obeyed. The scripture says let the "elders' that rule well... Not the "Popes". Scripture if the final authority!</p>
<p>3. They seemed to approve of the Roman Catholic faith and practices on that site. It's really not an issue with me, but that's what I saw. Maybe I'm wrong.</p> Yes, the "Hypostatic Union" w…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-29:916966:Comment:27710992011-11-29T21:55:12.187ZMaurice Edwardshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/PastorMauriceDEdwards
<p>Yes, the "Hypostatic Union" was an issue of debate. 1 Timothy 3:16 begins by saying...And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness. It's a mystery to me and I'm content with that.</p>
<p>Yes, the "Hypostatic Union" was an issue of debate. 1 Timothy 3:16 begins by saying...And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness. It's a mystery to me and I'm content with that.</p> Oh we have yet to touch on th…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-29:916966:Comment:27717762011-11-29T20:59:50.161ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
<p>Oh we have yet to touch on those! The Trinitarian vs Oneness/Sabellianism vs Unitarianism subject is far too common. There is so much more that has yet to be touched unfortunately.</p>
<p>Oh we have yet to touch on those! The Trinitarian vs Oneness/Sabellianism vs Unitarianism subject is far too common. There is so much more that has yet to be touched unfortunately.</p> 1) You have used the term "Bi…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-28:916966:Comment:27672392011-11-28T01:29:54.345ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
<p>1) You have used the term "Biblical" in a non-biblical, non-realistic manner. Nowadays, the term "Biblical" has moreso become "legendary". When the Apostles set up the Church structure, it was set in a form that few fully understand because few actually study it. Do you think that it was completely laid out in Scripture? Absolutely not. If that held weight, then I'm pretty sure that there are certain aspects to your liturgy and ecclesiology that don't match the first generation of the Church…</p>
<p>1) You have used the term "Biblical" in a non-biblical, non-realistic manner. Nowadays, the term "Biblical" has moreso become "legendary". When the Apostles set up the Church structure, it was set in a form that few fully understand because few actually study it. Do you think that it was completely laid out in Scripture? Absolutely not. If that held weight, then I'm pretty sure that there are certain aspects to your liturgy and ecclesiology that don't match the first generation of the Church 100% either.</p>
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<p>2) The first use of the term Pope has little to anything to do with anything. That is a heretical idea, for it gives the indication that only what is ancient (first century and older) is what is valid. I say that its heretical (hold to it) because we cannot idolize our forefathers in Christianity. Does the use of the term Pope as the designation for their Presiding Bishop violate the priniciples or heart of God, or any kingdom decree in any way? If it does, then and only then is it not "Biblical".</p>
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<p>3) They don't pledge allegience to the Bishop of Rome, they are actually Orthodox Church Christians who reside and are located in England. </p> I see the whole Pope, Bishop…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-28:916966:Comment:27669102011-11-28T00:56:55.351ZMaurice Edwardshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/PastorMauriceDEdwards
<p>I see the whole Pope, Bishop structure in Rome as being a man made system. Paul didn't call these men in scripture listed Popes. The first record of the term is used of Pope Heracleus in the third century, in a letter from Dionysius to Philemon. That whole article you directed me to is an Orthodox England Church that gives it allegance to the patriarchal system of Rome. Its not biblical!</p>
<p>I see the whole Pope, Bishop structure in Rome as being a man made system. Paul didn't call these men in scripture listed Popes. The first record of the term is used of Pope Heracleus in the third century, in a letter from Dionysius to Philemon. That whole article you directed me to is an Orthodox England Church that gives it allegance to the patriarchal system of Rome. Its not biblical!</p> I'll do one better for you. I…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-28:916966:Comment:27671072011-11-28T00:28:06.987ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
<p>I'll do one better for you. I'll give you a LIST of Orthodox Roman Popes.</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/ortpopes.htm">http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/ortpopes.htm</a></p>
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<p>Each one came way before anyone declared the Pope to be infallibile, or supreme over all Christianity.</p>
<p>I'll do one better for you. I'll give you a LIST of Orthodox Roman Popes.</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/ortpopes.htm">http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/ortpopes.htm</a></p>
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<p>Each one came way before anyone declared the Pope to be infallibile, or supreme over all Christianity.</p> Okay... Give me an example of…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-11-28:916966:Comment:27669082011-11-28T00:20:34.301ZMaurice Edwardshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/PastorMauriceDEdwards
<p>Okay... Give me an example of orthodox papacy in the RCC and give me an example of this in scripture because I'm missing something here obviously. And I'm not surprised that the Protestants fostered inquisitions because punishment for heresy was common back then.</p>
<p>Okay... Give me an example of orthodox papacy in the RCC and give me an example of this in scripture because I'm missing something here obviously. And I'm not surprised that the Protestants fostered inquisitions because punishment for heresy was common back then.</p>