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Another prophetess of doom coming against the church with examples that are few in numbers, when will we come together in the body of Christ in prayer for those going in the wrong direction.

When will we learn in love to be happy for those prospering in Christ instead of acting like a crab pulling them down, anything that they get out of the will of God, will be dealt with. His words do state that what is done in the darkness will be yelled from the rooftop.

The money this female spent to pull others down, could have gone into a some kind of effort to spread the gospel.

Alas as she states from her own lips, nothing new under the sun, Cain did kill his own brother, verbal murder is just as deadly.
We will come together when the real saints come together to rebuke these false prophets, preachers and pimps in pulpits that are leading the weak astray through deceptive practices with their only aim is to feed their own belly and agenda.

That's when.
Now Brother Newman, I have no problem with rebuking that which is not of God. But does not scripture state, not ME but scripture

Matt 13:30

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Rebuke all you want, but your walk should not consist only of heresy hunting and waiting to see others demise.

Where is the love we are suppose to have?
Who is wanting to see others demise? Is that what I wrote? I said, we are called to rebuke as well as to love, and love sometimes is rebuking. Do I not love my son when I rebuke him sternly from straying away from what is right and decent? Love also is discipline as the Bible says I dont love my son if I don't discipline him. And God is a God of love and a God of wrath. The more we grow in love of Him the more we should hate what he hates instead of making excuses and compromising false doctrine to appease this world. Jesus didn't come to bring peace, but division by the sword. I'm not the Joel Osteen type that most are in love with. Since most churches are filled with women as the men are in the street, it doesn't surprise me when I hear of this great heresy through compromising with the lukewarm church. Are we called to have fellowship with darkness? Are we called to have this "oneness" with false prophets, teachers and apostles who are misleading the sheep to slaughter? Did Jesus say this? Didn't Jesus Himself make a three prong whip to whip the money changers? What was the reason for this? Why did Jesus say and command us to "Beware of the Chief Priests"???

Where was Jesus "love" in this:

Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye shut the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye enter not in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering in to enter.

Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, even while for a pretence ye make long prayers: therefore ye shall receive greater condemnation.
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he is become so, ye make him twofold more a son of hell than yourselves.
Mat 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, that say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor.
Mat 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for which is greater, the gold, or the temple that hath sanctified the gold?
Mat 23:18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gift that is upon it, he is a debtor.
Mat 23:19 Ye blind: for which is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
Mat 23:20 He therefore that sweareth by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
Mat 23:21 And he that sweareth by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
Mat 23:22 And he that sweareth by the heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye tithe mint and anise and cummin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law, justice, and mercy, and faith: but these ye ought to have done, and not to have left the other undone.
Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, that strain out the gnat, and swallow the camel!
Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye cleanse the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full from extortion and excess.
Mat 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first the inside of the cup and of the platter, that the outside thereof may become clean also.
Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear beautiful, but inwardly are full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but inwardly ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Mat 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and garnish the tombs of the righteous,
Mat 23:30 and say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we should not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
Mat 23:31 Wherefore ye witness to yourselves, that ye are sons of them that slew the prophets.
Mat 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell?
Mat 23:34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: some of them shall ye kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city:
Mat 23:35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.
Mat 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that killeth the prophets, and stoneth them that are sent unto her! how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.


Tell me where did Jesus seek to have nicety nice and have fellowship and come together with these whom aim is to steal widows houses and are deceiving the poor and the oppressed? Now you see why they seeked to kill Him..

Mat 26:3 Then were gathered together the chief priests, and the elders of the people, unto the court of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas;
Mat 26:4 and they took counsel together that they might take Jesus by subtlety, and kill him.

They seeked to kill God in flesh, your Lord and Savior cause of envy and jealousy cause the poor and the oppressed loved Him and the Chief "Priests" were threatened by his popularity among the people outside the church, I mean Temple...

So who do you align up with? He didn't come for the rich, He came for the anointing was upon Him to preach the Good News of the free gift of Salvation to the poor and to set the captives free and to set those who are bruised to be made heal...FREE! Not to continue to deceive the poor and the oppressed and those who are bruised by oppressors who look good from the outside but are ravenous wolves on the inside.

*Bet I won't get any amen's on that one*
"but are ravenous wolves on the inside"

keyword "inside" leave it to God, for only HE can see inside the heart, some of these she spoke out on are simply in the limelight, faults and all, that we ALL have, being magnified.

I don't know that much about prophetess Bynum, however is she the only Christian woman to go through a trial? wear weave? or had cosmetic surgery, I think not.

Rev. Dollar does preach prosperity in Christ, as well as successful marriages, overcoming dead situations in ones life....

You called her "rare" I truly hope she lives up to that, we need more moaning women, more praying women, more women of God who know who they are in Christ. Who will speak life instead of death to the body of Christ, and yes, rebuke in love, you have an ought with your brother and sister, go to them with it.

This is just as embarassing as the other to the Body.
Prayer and faith without works is dead....Did King David just pray the death and the beheading of Goliath? And that's the problem, we are not monks going to monasteries. When someone says just "pray", what that really means is to do nothing and just have God supernaturally do it. God works through us as weakened vessels to fulfill His will as Jesus who is our perfect example in showing and demonstrating how it should be done. I'm not a girly man, but a man who knows his calling and his purpose through the innerant Word of God.

Pastor Dollar (name says it all) is misleading the masses in the name it claim it doctrine as most unfortunately in the African American community that is spreading like wild fire due to our history of never having anything and falling for the preaching and teaching of the "itching ears". How do you reconcile God's Word of contentment with desiring to be rich? And there is not anyone living in America who is considered to be "poor" in terms of real poverty that the world endures like good soldiers. They are teaching and preaching another gospel and are accursed for doing so in leading many astray to be lovers of money instead of lovers of God. And I'm bold enough with a spine and able to speak those things that other negroes too scared to speak. I'm called to stir! Not to have another "church as usual" sing a long as the enemy continues to slaughter our children with a negro church that is half full and menless on every corner. Pick up the paper and see for yourself what is happening in our own communities as the church is seemingly quiet cause mammon has got their tongue!
"We will come together when the real saints come together to rebuke these false prophets, preachers and pimps in pulpits that are leading the weak astray through deceptive practices with their only aim is to feed their own belly and agenda."

This is SO true.
The true saints of God NEED with all power band together and tear down anything that is not like God.
It makes no sense how the CHURCH will accept wrong before they accept right.
SIN IS SIN I don't care who does it.
Does not the scriptures say that God is NO respector of persons?
Then why do we?
If you wrong you wrong and MUCH of the mess I see in the church now is wrong.
This is the Good News of the simple Gospel of reconciliation?


The real prosperity Gospel is this:

The truth of Scripture regarding the riches of our salvation is that every person who believes in Jesus Christ has their sins forgiven and is immediately justified. The Holy Spirit indwells every believer immediately upon salvation. Every believer has access to God in prayer and has other believers available for fellowship, edification, and counsel. Every Christian has all of this immediately upon justification.

"God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in Him."
One thing that I noticed from these pimp preachers is they never speak about these much harder to read scriptures:

2Ti 4:5 But be thou sober in all things, suffer hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfil thy ministry.

Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed to us-ward.
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creation waiteth for the revealing of the sons of God.

Heb 2:9 But we behold him who hath been made a little lower than the angels, even Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of death for every man.

Luk 9:22 saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and the third day be raised up.

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

Act 5:41 They therefore departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the Name.

Act 9:16 for I will show him how many things he must suffer for my name's sake.

Rom 8:17 and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified with him.

2Co 1:6 But whether we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; or whether we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which worketh in the patient enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer:

Php 1:29 because to you it hath been granted in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer in his behalf:

1Th 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

2Th 1:5 which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God; to the end that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

2Ti 1:8 Be not ashamed therefore of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but suffer hardship with the gospel according to the power of God;

2Ti 1:12 For which cause I suffer also these things: yet I am not ashamed; for I know him whom I have believed, and I am persuaded that he is able to guard that which I have committed unto him against that day.

2Ti 2:3 Suffer hardship with me, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus.

2Ti 2:9 wherein I suffer hardship unto bonds, as a malefactor; but the word of God is not bound.

2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that would live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

2Ti 4:5 But be thou sober in all things, suffer hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfil thy ministry.

1Pe 2:20 For what glory is it, if, when ye sin, and are buffeted for it, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye shall take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

1Pe 3:14 But even if ye should suffer for righteousness' sake, blessed are ye: and fear not their fear, neither be troubled;

1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them also that suffer according to the will of God commit their souls in well-doing unto a faithful Creator.

Rev 2:10 Fear not the things which thou art about to suffer: behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days. Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee the crown of life.
Creflo Dollar: Prosperity Gospel

Why in the world would you think the son of God would come here poor? Creflo asks....

You can watch the 12 minute interview here. http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=4152778

Some questions:
-What do you think of the prosperity gospel?
-In the context provided in the video, is Creflo Dollar correct in his assessment of Christ?
-Is it honorable for Dollar to "stand up for the privacy act for all churches" by keeping his financial records hidden?
-Does personal testimony in affirmation of the prosperity gospel trump what scripture teaches concerning the Gospel?
-Was Jesus a rich man as Creflo Dollar teaches (in the video)? Does scripture support this?
1. I believe that God's grace is sufficient to supply all my needs, ALL of them
2. at work, will view video later and reply
3. I don't feel it's their business, why cast his pearls to swine?
4. God's Word is final, however we are overcomers through our witness and testimonies
5. My Father is rich in houses and land, HE and the Father are equal.
Praise the Lord Saints

Here are a few scriptures that we need examine

Matthew 19:23-24

23. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God

Matthew 6:23-25

24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

25Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Mark 10:21-23

21Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

22And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.

23And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God

Mark 7 :14

7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.

Matthew 6:19-20

19.. Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21 1For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.



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The Problem I have with this whole thing of Prosperity.... is that some think if you don't have any money , the fine clothes, cars, big houses and land... that God is not with you... God don't have no broke saints...Mentality............ Jesus didn't come as a big fancy King, with the glitter and the Gold he came has humble as a Lamb..... that doesn't mean that he was weak.... But he was the Most Powerful in the spirit.....

Some look down on the Poor saints....and talk so mean to them..... But we will always have the poor ..... Some of the preachers have to realized... If wasn't for the saints of God giving to the storehouse, buying CD/DVD/VCR....buying tickets to go to conferences....they wouldn't be where they are at....Now.......

Why not give back to those that are in the Mist that don't have anything.....that are struggling....just don't throw it back in there faces.. that you are High on the Horse and they are beneath you..........

There is a differance of being Blessed by God and Being a Greedy Dog.... the Blessings of the Lord don't boast or have full of pride with it......the Blessing of the Lord make you humble....hate to see other without...... ..etc..etc..........But a Greedy Dog will tear down... and Get more ..and more... and don't care how it they get it....at any Cost....A Greedy Dog worry about how much money was giving in the offering.....etc..etc....

How soon they forget where they came from...they didn't always have Glittler or the Gold... or even a silver spoon in there mouth.... preaching in store front churches----riding in a beat up old chevy....etc..etc... and didn't have 2 pennies to rub to gether........Pride...Pride...Pride...and self righteous....


I'm going to end on this note...


Luke 12: 13-34

13And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me.

14And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?

15And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

16And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:

17And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?

18And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.

19And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

20But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

21So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

22And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on.

23The life is more than meat, and the body is more than raiment.

24Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls?

25And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit?

26If ye then be not able to do that thing which is least, why take ye thought for the rest?

27Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

28If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith?

29And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.

30For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things.

31But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.

32Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

33Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

34For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also

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