There are too many rebels in God's churches. We as leaders must root them out, so the other members/disciples can be strong and grow. Rebel is witch-craft according to Samuel, chapter 15. Heretics, Jezebels and unholy living must not remain in the churches. God will clean out the whole church, if leaders continue to allow people to live any kind of way..

Bring order, correction and discipline to all members who refuse to obey the Holy Bible, Church By-Laws and Governmental Laws. Rebels must not control the churches nor bring influences upon new members affecting their spiritual walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. Do right , because you can not hide from God! God require leaders to be holy and perfect according to scriptures. Clean up the church before God remove you as the leader from the church! It is Spring Cleaning Time. A-men.

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Some peole do not like tough love, but it is needful to bring growth, order and God's flavor. Get rid of bad apples in the church before God get rid of you!!!

You right, some churches aren't even really a church, but is just a house full of rebellion and disobedience to God's word. It's  a big problem when the leader is out of order. If the leader is continuously out of order, the entire church will be effected by that out of order spirit. What's in the head will flow down, so if the head is not in the proper position then how can the people, when they will go by what they see or being taught. It's time for order in the church too much is going on.

If someone is a leader and is in sin, why is it so hard to just sit down and get their self together and stop preaching one thing, but as soon as they leave the people, it's a different story; and no change-no repentance, just acceptance of sin in the camp. People's lives are damaged by this and are turning them away, woe unto them, because that's blood on their hands.

Let the wheat and chaff grow together and God said he would separate them.
God commands order. He was not speaking of tares in His Holy Temple. Read the book of Matthews and notice how the Lord Jesus speaks about ex-communicating people from the church.

We are supposed to withdraw fellowship from disobedient or apostate brethren. Paul's teaching on this is clear.


I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church?  But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES. [1 Corinthians 5:9-13]


But of course, let's make certain we have combated the rebellion in our own hearts before we go looking to chastise the rebellious behavior of others.

This scripture is ONLY USED when homosexuals are concerned let's be real here.

Actually, I think it is often used against men who fall into sexual sins with women. For example, Jim Bakker described how he was shunned in his memoir.

Oh please that was ONLY because he was caught so his "buddies" didn't want to be associated with him anymore.

I think we need to stop being so blind to the truth and common sense.

So, ONLY homosexuals are shunned... EXCEPT when heterosexuals are shunned... BUT those cases don't count because the heterosexuals are shunned for the wrong reasons... Got it.

Homosexuals are the MOST shunned in the church.


These pimps ONLY get shunned when they are caught.


How many messages have you heard about pimpin', women-chasin', lying, deceitful, money-grubbin' preachers in the past year?


How many messages have you heard about homosexuals in the past year?


You do the math.



We praech about primps and all other sins. Sin must be address in the churches.
The truth shall set you free. God despise pride, arrogance and rebellious people. Reprobates are those who can not be "saved". Study for yourself!


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