WHAT IS PREDESTINATION?

Brother Ozell Adams says that I sound like one of these typical sunday false prophets!

Dear brother Adams, may God forgive you!

“For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit”.

2 Peter 1:21

I’m not here on the Black preaching network to preach CALVINISM.
Jesus Christ has a single Church which is built on revelation.

“And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.”

Matthew 16:18

It is of this church that I am a member.

I didn’t join the black preaching network to argue with the Word of God.

But I’m here to speak the truth in Christ. I’m a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

1 Timothy 2:7

I am attached to the true Word such as it was taught by the Apostles and the Prophets of Jesus Christ. And it is that which enables to refute the contradictors (Titus 2: 9).

“So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the secret things of God” (1 Corinthians 4:1).

As The Apostle Paul said, I also want to tell you that the appeal I make does not spring from error or impure motives, nor am I trying to trick you. On the contrary, I speak as man approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel. I’m not trying to please men but God, who tests my heart. (1 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

Brother Ozell Adams, you said:

“…Calvinism teaches that since man is so totally depraved when he is born, it is impossible for him to choose to serve God. Therefore, God must arbitrarily choose who will be saved. This teaching is sometimes referred to as predestination. The bible teaches predestination, but not as taught by Augustine and Calvin. God is no respecter of persons and all who choose to be saved, and do the necessary things required will experience God’s forgiveness and blessings (Acts 10:34-35, John 3:16)…”

If you believe that the Bible teaches PREDESTINATION, then would you be so kind as to explain me that concept of PREDESTINATION according to the Holy Scriptures?

Brother Ozell Adams commented the teaching of the CALVINISM in order to refute my teaching.

So, let us study his comments and gradually compare them to the Holy Scriptures:

1- Total Inherited Depravity:

Ozell Adams said:

“…Not only have all inherited Adam’s sin, but also man enters the world totally depraved (“Adam’s sinful nature”). The bible, conversely teaches "(Eze. 18:20) the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father…” Furthermore, “The soul that sinneth, it shall die”. All have sinned, but it is because we ourselves have chosen to go astray. “Babies” are not presented in the bible as depraved, but as pure and models of the kingdom of heaven (Matt. 18:3-6)…”

Brother Ozell, if you do not believe that “…all inherited Adam’s sin…”, then explain me the following biblical verses:

-“FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus”.

Romans 3:23-24

- “Therefore, just as SIN ENTRERED THE WORLD THROUGH ONE MAN, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because ALL SINNED-for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come”.

Romans 5:12-14

“Consequently, JUST AS THE RESULT OF ONE TRESPASS WAS CONDEMNATION FOR ALL MEN, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. FOR JUST AS THROUGH THE DESOBEDIENCE OF THE ONE MAN THE MANY WERE MADE SINNERS, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous”.

Romans 5:18-19

“For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time”.

Romans 8:20-22

2- Unconditional Election:

Ozell Adams said:

“…God is no respecter of persons and all who choose to be saved, and do the necessary things required will experience God’s forgiveness and blessings (Acts 10:34-35, John 3:16)”.

Brother Ozell, you said: “all who choose to be saved”. I do agree with you, but can you explain me the following biblical verses?

“Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. 4 FOR HE CHOSE US IN HIM BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love 5 HE PREDESTINED US be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, IN ACCORDANCE WITH HIS PLEASURE AND WILL - 6to the praise of his glorious GRACE, which he has FREELY GIVEN US in the One he loves. 7In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's GRACE 8that he lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding. 9And he[d] made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, 10to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfilment-to bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head, even Christ. 11IN HIM WE WERE ALSO CHOSEN, HAVING BEEN PREDESTINED ACCORDING TO THE PLAN OF HIM WHO WORKS OUT EVERYTHING IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PURPOSE OF HIS, 12in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. 13And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession-to the praise of his glory”.

Ephesians 1:3-14

Brother, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation and you believe it (John3:16), it is simply because YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD.

Yes, it is simply because, you HAVE BEEN PREDESTINED ACCORDING TO THE PLAN OF HIM WHO WORKS OUT EVERYTHING IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PURPOSE OF HIS.

Brother, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation and you believe it, you fear God and do what is right (Acts 10: 34-35), it is because YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD.

Yes, it is simply because, you HAVE BEEN PREDESTINED ACCORDING TO THE PLAN OF HIM WHO WORKS OUT EVERYTHING IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PURPOSE OF HIS.

Do you believe that truth?

Indeed, the Bible declares:

“28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,[a] who[b] have been called according to his purpose. 29For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.”

Romans 8:28-30

Brother, can one choose to be saved if she/she has not been called before the creation of the world according to God’s purpose?

Indeed, the Bible declares:

“All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast-all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world”.

Revelation 13:8

Besides, do you know that Jesus is the Author and Perfecter of our faith (Hebrews 12:2)?

Do you know that it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose (Philippians 2:13)?

Indeed, the Bible declares:

“Such confidence as this is ours through Christ before God. 5Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God”.

2 Corinthians 3:4-5

Brother, let us see some examples in the Bible:

“Then Jesus replied, "Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!"

John 6:70

Brother, could Judas choose to be saved? NO!

He has sinned, but He didn’t repent because he has not been called before the creation of the world according to God’s purpose (Luke 22:3)?

He was is a devil, and Jesus knew it before He betrayed Him.
“He did not need man's testimony about man, for he knew what was in a man”.

John 2:25

As for Peter, he has also sinned, but he did repent because he has been called before the creation of the world according to God’s purpose.

Indeed, Jesus told Peter:

"Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers."

Luke 22:31-32

Now, tell me, why did Jesus pray for Peter so that his faith may not fail?

Why?

Because he has been called before the creation of the world according to God’s purpose.

But why didn’t He pray for Judas?

Why did Satan enter Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve (Luke 22:3)?

Because he was is a devil, and Jesus knew it before He betrayed Him.

Let us see an other example:

“9For this was how the promise was stated: "At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son."[a] 10Not only that, but Rebekah's children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. 11Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls—she was told, "The older will serve the younger."[b] 13Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."[c] 14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."[d] 16It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. 17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."[e] 18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. 19One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?" 20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?' "[f] 21Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
22What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? 25As he says in Hosea: "I will call them 'my people' who are not my people; and I will call her 'my loved one' who is not my loved one,"[g] 26and, "It will happen that in the very place where it was said to them, 'You are not my people,' they will be called 'sons of the living God.' "[h] 27Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved. 28For the Lord will carry out his sentence on earth with speed and finality."

Romans 9:9-28

Brother, why did Esau for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son?

Simply because “Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls - she was told, "The older will serve the younger."Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.
Before the twins were born God loved Jacob and hated Esau.

THIS IS PREDESTINATION! Amen!

Now, is this an arbitrary? No!

“ Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."[d] 16It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. 17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."[e] 18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.”

This is the truth according to the Holy Scriptures!

Do you understand why Afterward, when Esau wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected? He could bring about no change of mind, though he sought the blessing with tears (Hebrews 12:17)?
Brother Ozell Adams, one can not choose to be saved if she/she has not been called before the creation of the world according to God’s purpose.
Because, it does not, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy!
“And a highway will be there; it will be called the Way of Holiness. The unclean will not journey on it; it will be for those who walk in that Way; wicked fools will not go about on it”.

Isaiah 35:8

If the Bible is your absolute, then say AMEN to that!

Brother, the Bible says that: "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven”.

John 3:27

Indeed, Jesus said this:

“My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand”.

John 10:27-29

He said again:

"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.”

Matthew 25:34

Brother Adams, I do believe Acts 10:34-35
Indeed, in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. But do not forget that those ones are God's workmanships, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for them to do(Ephesians 2:10).
The kingdom is prepared for them since the creation of the world (Matthew 25:34). Amen!

3- Limited Atonement

Ozell Adams said:

“…that since God arbitrarily chose those who would be saved, Jesus only died for those individuals.” However, the bible teaches that (Heb. 2:9) Jesus tasted death for “every man”. (1Tim. 2:3-6, Matt. 7:13-14) God would have all men saved, but only a few desire and have the knowledge to be saved. (1 John 2:2) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world”.

Brother, I do believe Heb. 2:9. Yes, Jesus tasted death for “every man”.

Yes, God our Savior wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth (1Timothy 2:3-4, 1 John 2:2).

However, only a few desire and have the knowledge to be saved.

Why do a few desire and have the knowledge to be saved?

Why don’t many people desire and have knowledge to be saved?

Because, at the beginning were two posterities, two distinct seeds, that of Adam by Seth and that of Satan the ancient serpent by Cain. Thereafter it occurred the corruption or the mixture of the two seeds (Genesis 6:1-3) which remained and coexisted till in the New Testament.

We see that in the explanation of the parable of the weeds given by our Lord Jesus-Christ in Matthew 13: 24-30.

“The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels”.

Matthew 13:38-39

There was mixture of the two seeds, but that cannot prevent our Lord from distinguishing the children of the devil and the children of God (John 8: 44, Matthew 23:32-33, Matthew 25:34, John 10:14-15, John 6:64-65).

“This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.”

1Timothy 2:3-4

But the descendants of Cain cannot penetrate the depths of the Word of God, while the descendants of Adam by Seth receive wisdom in top to know God (Matthew 13: 13-16).

Indeed, Brother Paul said:

« And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness, made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ”.

2 Corinthians 4:3-6

The children of the devil are recognized by their fruits (Matthew 7: 20)

« No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother”.

1 John 3:9-10

Satan indeed had a seed resulting from the human race and this one will never escape the punishment from the hell.

We do not need to index people arbitrarily because while we are pulling the weeds, we may root up the wheat with them (Matthew 13: 29).

Each one should examine oneself and consider to which group she or he belongs because the the Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children (Romans 8: 16)

Amen!!!

It’s puerile (funny) to affirm that the posterity of the serpent mentioned in Genesis 3:15, are the small crawling snakes (according to certain beliefs), since the serpent was walking as the man (like a human) before being cursed by God.

It was in its primitive nature that it generated its seed.

How could God put enmity between two noncomparable things, in one hand, the small crawling snakes and in the other hand, the posterity of the woman?

The posterity of the serpent is not spiritual. Any reader of the Bible knows that the seed of the woman was Christ who came by the intervention of God, without a human sexual act (Luke 1: 26-35).

It is also well-known that the breaking of the head of the serpent was a prophecy relating to what Christ achieved at the cross against Satan. It was at the cross that Christ crushed the head of Satan, while Satan wounded the heel of the Lord.

If the posterity of the woman were a physical being, male child (revelation 12: 5), that of the serpent was to be the same kind, and another male was to be born apart from the intervention from a human sexual act.

Just as the seed of the woman was literally God, coming in the human flesh (1 Timothy 3: 16; John 1: 14), thus the seed of the serpent is the literal manner which Satan found that he could cut through a path in the human race. He introduced his seed into humanity. It was impossible for Satan to appear or to reproduce himself in the human flesh as God did, because Satan is a spiritual creature and he cannot create. He doesn’t have the capacity of creation.

Before Adam had never known his wife according to the flesh, the serpent had preceded him in this knowledge. And the son, who was born from the serpent, was Cain. A seed implies a design, a production (Genesis 12: 7; 15: 5; 22: 17-18). When God spoke about the descent of the serpent (Genesis 3: 15) He did not refer to a spiritual posterity (Galatians 3: 29), but a physical prosterity. The contexts of Genesis 3:15 and Galatians 3: 29 are not the same.

Indeed, the filiation of Cain is revealed to us: “Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous.”

1 John 3: 12.

One understands then why Cain and Abel had a fundamentally different nature. Adam was sons of God by creation (Luke 3: 38). It was not a spiritual act but a physical act. He was created perfect and it is not certainly in the nature of Adam that we must seek all the features characteristic of Cain.

Cain was malicious as his father the devil which is the evil one, the malicious one (1John 5: 19; 1John 2: 13; Matthew 13: 19). Cain was jealous, aggressive, disrespectful towards God and murderer like his father (John 10: 10). Can you tell me why didn’t God look with favour Cain and his offering? (Genesis 4: 5)?
The good works of Cain didn’t save him. As he was not the son of Adam (1 John 3:12), son of God, He didn’t have revelation which could enable him to test and approve what God's will is.

Moreover the Bible says:

“And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.”

Genesis 5:3-5

Abel was no more alive, but why had Cain the elder who was alive been omitted?

Why wasn’t he a son in Adam’s own likeness, and after his image?

Let us see the historical Records From Adam to Abraham To Noah's Sons:

“Adam, Sheth, Enosh, Kenan, Mahalaleel, Jered, Henoch, Methuselah, Lamech,Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.”

1 Chronicles 1:1-4

Abel was no more alive, but why had Cain who was alive been omitted?

The Orginal sin is a Topic which deeply deals with a problem of seed (Matthew 13:24-30)

The serpent managed in a practical way to successfully get a posterity among the human ones.
Brother, that posterity of the serpent will never desire and have knowledge to be saved.

“Then Jesus said, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear." When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, " 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!"

Mark 4:9-12

“The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?" He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: " 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.' But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.

Matthew 13:10-16

« By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them ».

Matthew 7:16-20

« No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother”.

1 John 3:9-10

4- Irresistible Grace

Brother Adam says:

“…The teaching of irresistible grace is based on the belief of the direct operation of the Holy Spirit. The chosen have no choice or participation in their salvation, the Spirit overwhelms them, even against their own will, according to Augustinism. Calvinism teaches that man, any man, who has not experienced this irresistible working and transformation effected by the Spirit, can not understand the gospel, hence, without this special working man cannot be saved. But the bible says; (Rom. 1:16) "for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth. (Acts 10:44) While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. So whosoever hear and believe and do the words of the Lord the Holy Ghost shall also visit them...”

Brother Ozell Adams, I do respect your faith, but let us examine it in the light of the Holy Bible.

Indeed, the Bible says:

“When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment”

John 16:8

Brother Ozell Adams, please, tell me, without the Holy Spirit, can the world be aware that it is in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment?
Moreover, our Lord Jesus said:
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day”.

John 6:44

Brother Ozell Adams, please, tell me, can one come to Jesus - Christ unless the Father who sent Him draws them?
“for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose”.

Philippians 2:13

Don’t you know that it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose?

No one can obey the Word of God fully without the Holy Spirit in him.
“But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you”.

John 14:26

“But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come”.

John 16:13

No one can obey the Word of God fully if she or he has not been born of God.

It is true but the Bible says that God has given the Holy Spirit to those who obey him, but it is also true that “because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father."

Galatians 4:6

If you are not born of God, a son or a daughter of God CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD, neither will you be able to obey Him, nor will God send the Spirit of his Son into your heart.

And if God has given you His Spirit, can you lose salvation? Never! I say never!

5- Perseverance of the saints

Brother Ozell Adams said:

“…Since man initially has no say or participation in the procuring of his salvation, so it is during the remainder of his life. If it is all of God, man cannot lose his salvation, says Calvinism. As a result, the doctrine of “once saved always saved” had to be introduced. Notwithstanding, the bible plainly teaches the Christian can fall (1Cor. 10:12). In fact if one does not grow in Christ, one will fall. Man’s continued salvation is contingent on man’s remaining with God (Joshua 24:20)…”

However, the Bible declares:

“And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession-to the praise of his glory”.

Ephesians 1: 13-14

"...Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession..."

If you truly believe in Jesus Christ and you are marked with a seal, namely the Holy Spirit, you are saved forever, you can never lose salvation.

Why?

Simply because the Holy Spirit is a deposit guarantee of your inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession.

UNTIL THE REDEMPTION!

Amen! Amen! Amen

This is the truth!

Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you have believed?

If yes, then the Bible says that you are saved forever!

“And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption”.

Ephesians 4:30

I do believe that a Christian can fall, but let us notice that this one will always rise again, stand up, thanks to God, simply because he is born of God.

Let us think over the example of Peter and Judas.

Peter has ever fallen, but He was a son of God CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. This is the reason why he did repent after his fall.

“for though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again, but the wicked are brought down by calamity”.

Proverbs 24:16

Judas also has fallen but he died in his sin without repentance because He was not a son of God CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD (John 17:12).

A Son of God can never die unrepented.

The faithful God will never let His Sons and daughters be tempted beyond what they can bear. But when they are tempted, He will also provide a way out so that they can endure it (1 Corinthians 10:13).

This is the truth!!

Besides, no one can deceive the elect, the true sons and daughters of God (Matthew 24:24). No one!

Moreover, the Bible declares:

“Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined-and everyone undergoes discipline-then you are not legitimate children at all”.

Hebrews 12:7- 8

Brother Ozell Adams, if someone is not a legitimate child, a son or a daughter of God CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD, this one can do whatever she/he wants, but God will never discipline him/her.

Indeed, Jesus said this:

“My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand”.

John 10:27-29

When our Lord Jesus said that He was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24), it means he knew in advance the sheep of Israel.
These sheep were in His thought before He was sent. They were CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. They have been lost for a while and Jesus has been sent only to these lost sheep. Amen!
When He has come, He said this: “My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand”.
Brother Ozell Adams, can Jesus search and save the sheep which don’t belong His shepherd? No! No!

« These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel”.

Matthew 10:5-6

But, afterward, the time has arrived for Jesus to turn to the Gentiles, CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD (a new dispensation).

Indeed, the Bible says:

“He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God”.

John 1:11-13

We know that later, Israel will be saved (Romans 11: 1-36).
Now, under the example of Israel, can a gentile believer receive Jesus Christ and believe in Him if he/she is not CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD?

Can people listen to Jesus’ voice if they are not sheep CHOSEN IN JESUS BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD?

No!

Our competence comes from God!

First, we are saved by grace through faith, then God Himself gives us the spiritual armor in order to stand firm, to resist the devil till the end of our life.

“Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints”.

Ephesians 6: 10-18

Yes, Our competence comes from God!

” for the power of the wicked will be broken, but the LORD upholds the righteous”.

“I was young and now I am old, yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their children begging bread”.

Psalm 37: 17; 25

“ A righteous man may have many troubles, but the LORD delivers him from them all”

Psalm 34:19

Amen! Amen! Amen!

Where is our merit? Nowhere!

Jesus Christ is all for us.

“I can do everything through him who gives me strength”

Philippians 4:13

“I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me”.

Galatians 2:20

Yes, Our competence comes from God!

“To this John replied, "A man can receive only what is given him from heaven”.
“Such confidence as this is ours through Christ before God. Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God. He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant-not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life”.

2 Corinthians 3:4-6

Brother Ozell Adams said again:

“…So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus. And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past. We were all locked under death by Adam’s sin, even the second death. But when Jesus became (he was God in the beginning) man and died for the sins of the world, he gave us access back to the tree of life (himself) which Adam had caused us to lose. That’s what grace is, our free gift our access back to the tree of life but that’s another lesson for another time. So by coming under the blood of Jesus you are saved from your past sins. And if you are saved now, it is on a day to day basis. Because all have sinned, and if you continue to live you will sin again. It is the willful sinning that you need to put in check…”
Brother, I do agree with your saying above since it is scriptural. But this is what I’m telling you:

No one can accept to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus unless it is given him from heaven to do so.

No one can accept to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus unless he/she is born of God.

Moreover, No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are.

This is the truth!

This is not a “doctrine of the ministers of Satan”. It is so said the Bible!

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Brother Ozell Adams said again:

“…Sisters and brother read your bible for yourself and pray to God for understanding, and ask him to help you find a church that is teaching his true uncut word.
But if you still believe the false doctrine of “once saved always saved” and that you can never fall away then what does this next verse mean?
(Heb. 6:4-6) (v.4) For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, (v.5) And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, (v.6) If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
You mean that you can be enlightened, be partakers of the Holy Ghost, taste the good word of God and still it’s possible for you to fall away.
You had better pay attention to what the Lord inspired Paul to write here. Just as you choose to serve God of you own free will you can by that same free will decide to stop serving God. You are what is called a free agent, the choice is yours…”

Brother Ozell Adams, it is true that one can be enlightened, be partaker of the Holy Ghost, taste the good word of God and still it’s possible for him/him to fall away!

Why?

Simply because, the Bible says:

“Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, IF THE SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN YOU. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ”.

Romans 8:8-9

IF THE SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN YOU! Amen!

If the Spirit of God doesn’t live in you, then you can be enlightened, be partaker of the Holy Ghost, taste the good word of God and still it’s possible for you to fall away and you will never rise again.

The simple unction is not sufficient, the Spirit of God must live in you (Matthew 7:21-23).

If the Spirit of God lives in you, still it’s possible for you to fall away, but you will always rise again(See the example of Peter: Galatians 2: 11-14).

“for though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again, but the wicked are brought down by calamity”.

Proverbs 24:16

If you truly believe in Jesus Christ and you are marked with a seal, namely the Holy Spirit, you are saved forever, you can never lose salvation (Ephesians 1: 13-14).

I do not refer to the simple unction someone may have. That unction can help him perform miracles, teach the Gospel and so on, but the Bible says that if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. All that matters is that the Holy Spirit should live in you (1 Corinthians 6:19).

Indeed, Brother Paul said:

“I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but CHRIST LIVES IN ME. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me”.

Galatians 2:20

Indeed, the Bible declares:

“for false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect - if that were possible.”

Mark 13:22

A Christ is the one who is anointed.

Our Lord “JESUS” is called “CHRIST” because He has been anointed:

“how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.”

Acts 10:38

A false Christ is the one who is anointed; he received the true unction from God but he teaches false (God can operate miracles by him, but this one teaches false).

A false Prophet is the one who is anointed; he received the true unction from God but he doesn’t follow the Word of God fully.

For example, Moses was a true Prophet of God, while Balaam was a false Prophet (Numbers 22:1-41).

Maybe, someone may ask:

Why doesn’t God take back His unction and His gifts from the false Christs and the false Prophets?

Simply because God's gifts and his call are irrevocable. Amen!

“for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.”

Romans 11:28-29

The true Christs, the true Ministers of God or the true sons/daughters of God are the ones who have been born again not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever. AMEN!

AMEN! AMEN!

“having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,”

1 Peter 1:23

For more details, I do recommend you to visit the Web site below and to order the following booklets: “The anointed ones of the end time” and "Three kinds of believers"

www.inthedaysofthevoice.com

The true sons/daughters of God, the ones who have been born again not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, can never lose salvation.

This is not a doctrine of men, but the truth according to the Holy Scriptures.
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

Revelation 3:22

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

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Thans you so much for bringing this thread. Firstly could I just point out that Calvin did not actually teach once saved always saved, this is a slight misunderstanding of the great man's theology. He did teach once elected and chosen always elected and chosen. This is different nuance to the more modern understanding of someone whom has gone forward at an altar call are then saved.

It has been said about Calvin, that he himself was not quite a Calvinist, but he was getting there ;)

I am sorry that my post is slightly long, but I think is worth bringing exactly what John Calvin (Jean Cauvin) himself says about the below Pauline Scriptures

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Hebrew 6:4-6

6:4. "For it is impossible" This passage has given occasion to many to repudiate this Epistle, especially as the Novatians armed themselves with it to deny pardon to the fallen. Hence those of the Western Church, in particular, refused the authority of this Epistle, because the sect of Novatus annoyed them; and they were not sufficiently conversant in the truth so as to be equal to refute it by argument.

But when the design of the Apostle is understood, it then appears evident that there is nothing here which countenances so delirious an error. Some who hold sacred the authority of the Epistle, while they attempt to dissipate this absurdity, yet do nothing but evade it.

For some take "impossible" in the sense of rare or difficult, which is wholly different from its meaning. Many confine it to that repentance by which the catechumens in the ancient Church were wont to be prepared for baptism, as though indeed the Apostles prescribed fasting, or such things to the baptized. And then what great thing would the Apostle have said, by denying that repentance, the appendage of baptism, could be repeated?

He threatens with the severest vengeance of God all those who would cast away the grace which had been once received; what weight would the sentence have had to shake the secure and the wavering with terror, if he only reminded them that there was no longer room for their first repentance? For this would extend to every kind of offense.

What then is to be said? Since the Lord gives the hope of mercy to all without exception, it is wholly unreasonable that any one for any cause whatever should be precluded.

The knot of the question is in the word, "fall away". Whosoever then understands its meaning, can easily extricate himself from every difficulty. But it must be noticed, that there is a twofold falling away, one particular, and the other general. He who has in anything, or in any ways offended, has fallen away from his state as a Christian; therefore all sins are so many fallings.

But the Apostle speaks not here of theft, or perjury, or murder, or drunkenness, or adultery; but he refers to a total defection or falling away from the Gospel, when a sinner offends not God in some one thing, but entirely renounces his grace.

And that this may be better understood, let us suppose a contrast between the gifts of God, which he has mentioned, and this falling away. For he falls away who forsakes the word of God, who extinguishes its
light, who deprives himself of the taste of the heavens or gift, who relinquishes the participation of the Spirit.

Now this is wholly to renounce God. We now see whom he excluded from the hope of pardon, even the apostates who alienated themselves from the Gospel of Christ, which they had previously embraced, and from the grace of God; and this happens to no one but to him who sins against the Holy Spirit. For he who violates the second table of the Law, or transgresses the first through ignorance, is not guilty of this defection; nor does God surely deprive any of his grace in such a way as to leave them none remaining except the reprobate.

If any one asks why the Apostle makes mention here of such apostasy while he is addressing believers, who were far off from a perfidy so heinous; to this I answer, that the danger was pointed out by him in
time, that they might be on their guard
. And this ought to be observed; for when we turn aside from the right way, we not only excuse to others our vices, but we also impose on ourselves. Satan stealthily creeps on us, and by degrees allures us by clandestine arts, so that when we go astray we know not that we are going astray.

Thus gradually we slide, until at length we rush headlong into ruin. We may observe this daily in
many. Therefore the Apostle does not without reason forewarn all the disciples of Christ to beware in time; for a continued torpor commonly ends in lethargy, which is followed by alienation of mind.

But we must notice in passing the names by which he signalizes the knowledge of the Gospel. He calls it "illumination"; it hence follows that men are blind, until Christ, the light of the world, enlightens them.

He calls it a "tasting of the heavenly gift"; intimating that the things which Christ confers on us are above nature and the world, and that they are yet tasted by faith. He calls it the "participation" of the Spirit; for he it is who distributes to every one, as he wills, all the light and knowledge which he can have; for without him no one can say that Jesus is the Lord, (I Cor. 12: 3;) he opens for us the eyes of our minds, and reveals to us the secret things of God.

He calls it a "tasting of the good word of God"; by which he means, that the will of God is therein revealed, not in any sort of way, but in such a way as sweetly to delight us; in short, by this title is pointed out the difference between the Law and the Gospel; for that has nothing but severity and condemnation, but this is a sweet testimony of God's love and fatherly kindness towards us.

And lastly, he calls it a "tasting of the powers of the world to come"; by which he intimates, that we are admitted by faith as it were into the kingdom of heaven, so that we see in spirit that blessed immortality which is hid from our senses.

Let us then know, that the Gospel cannot be otherwise rightly known than by the illumination of the Spirit, and that being thus drawn away from the world, we are raised up to heaven, and that knowing the goodness of God we rely on his word.

But here arises a new question, how can it be that he who has once made such a progress should afterwards fall away?

For God, it may be said, calls none effectually but the elect, and Paul testifies that they are really his sons who are led by his Spirit, (Rom. 8: 14;) and he teaches us, that it is a sure pledge of adoption when Christ makes us partakers of his Spirit.

The elect are also beyond the danger of finally falling away; for the Father who gave them to be preserved by Christ his Son is greater than all, and Christ promises to watch over them all so that none may perish.

To all this I answer, That God indeed favours none but the elect alone with the Spirit of regeneration, and that by this they are distinguished from the reprobate; for they are renewed after his image and receive the earnest of the Spirit in hope of the future inheritance, and by the same Spirit the Gospel is sealed in their hearts. But I cannot admit that all this is any reason why he should not grant the reprobate also some taste of his grace, why he should not irradiate their minds with some sparks of his light, why he should not give them some perception of his goodness, and in some sort engrave his word on their hearts. Otherwise, where would be the temporal faith mentioned by Mark 4: 17?

There is therefore some knowledge even in the reprobate, which afterwards vanishes away, either because it did not strike roots sufficiently deep, or because it withers, being choked up.

And by this bridle the Lord keeps us in fear and humility; and we certainly see how prone human nature is otherwise to security and foolish confidence. At the same time our solicitude ought to be such as not to
disturb the peace of conscience. For the Lord strengthens faith in us, while he subdues our flesh: and hence he would have faith to remain and rest tranquilly as in a safe haven; but he exercises the flesh with
various conflicts, that it may not grow wanton through idleness.


6:6. "To renew them again into repentance". Though this seems hard, yet there is no reason to charge Gad with cruelty when any one suffers only the punishment of his own defection; nor is this inconsistent with other parts of Scripture, where God's mercy is offered to sinners as soon as they sigh for it, (Ezek. 18: 27;) for repentance is required, which he never truly feels who has once wholly fallen away from the Gospel; for such are deprived, as they deserve, of God's Spirit and given up to a reprobate mind, so that being the slaves of the devil they rush headlong into destruction.

Thus it happens that they cease not to add sin to sin, until being wholly hardened they despise God, or like men in despair, express madly their hatred to him. The end of all apostates is, that they are either smitten with stupor, and fear nothing, or curse God their judge, because they cannot escape from him.

In short, the Apostle warns us, that repentance is not at the will of man, but that it is given by God to those only who have not wholly fallen away from the faith. It is a warning very necessary to us, lest by often
delaying until tomorrow, we should alienate ourselves more and more from God. The ungodly indeed deceive themselves by such sayings as this, - that it will be sufficient for them to repent of their wicked life at their last breath.

But when they come to die, the dire torments of conscience which they suffer, prove to them that the conversion of man is not an ordinary work. As then the Lord promises pardon to none but to those who repent of their iniquity, it is no wonder that they perish who either through despair or contempt, rush on in their obstinacy into destruction. But when any one rises up again after falling, we may hence conclude that he had not been guilty of defection, however grievously he may have sinned.


"Crucifying again", He also adds this to defend God's severity against the calumnies of men; for it would be wholly unbecoming, that God by pardoning apostates should expose his own Son to contempt. They are
then wholly unworthy to obtain mercy.

But the reason why he says, that Christ would thus be crucified again, is, because we die with him for the very purpose of living afterwards a new life; when therefore any return as it were unto death, they have need of another sacrifice, as we shall find in the tenth chapter. Crucifying "for themselves" means as far as in them lies. For this would be the case, and Christ would be slandered as it were triumphantly, were it allowed men to return to him after having fallen away and forsaken him.

This is a wonderful exposition of Hew 6:4-6 and an awesome glimspe of the grace and love of our most Awesome God.

Blessings

Caral
The Pharisees accused Jesus for working on the Sabbath Day.

Matthew 12:7-9 (King James Version)

7But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

8For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Mark 2:27-28 (King James Version)

27And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

28Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Luke 6:6-8 (King James Version)

6And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered.

7And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him.

8But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth.
John 5:18 (King James Version)

18Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

first of all They Didn't Believe Jesus Was God and that HE WAS LORD OF THE SABBATH!

So Therefore the Jews were angry Jesus did such a thing Not knowing who HE WAS.
THEY Sought to Kill him.
Romans 2:16-33 (King James Version)

16In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

17Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,

18And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;

19And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,

20An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.

21Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?

22Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

23Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

24For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

25For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

26Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

27And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?

28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
ROMANS 3:3
3For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

4God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

5But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)

6God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?

7For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

8And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

9What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17And the way of peace have they not known:

18There is no fear of God before their eyes.

19Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

29Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

30Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 4

1What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

2For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

4Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

6Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

9Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.

10How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.

11And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

12And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.

13For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

14For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

15Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

16Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

18Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.

19And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:

20He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

22And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

23Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
FAITH IN CHRIST NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW WILL SAVE YOU.
Romans 5

1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

3And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

4And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

5And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.


THE Holy Ghost Is OUR REST! (OUR SABBATH)

Hebrews 4

1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Lets us Hear What they Preached to be saved?I want to know this promise he has that HAS TO BE MIXED WITH FAITH. (see Below for the promise)

3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

7Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

13Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

14Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

15For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

16Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

SO WHAT IS THIS PROMISE PEOPLE WILL COME SHORT OF? in Hebrews 4 verse 1,2

What was The First Message they Preached for people to be saved?
Acts 2:38-39 (King James Version)

38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.


2 Corinthians 3:5-17 (King James Version)

5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

7But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

8How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

9For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

10For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

11For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

12Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

13And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
Are you Hearing This?

15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

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