What is with all of these titles? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-29T15:56:01Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-with-all-of-these?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A1205852&feed=yes&xn_auth=nobumptag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-04-12:916966:Comment:12889962010-04-12T11:27:05.033ZHezekiah Ben Israelhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/HezekiahBenIsrael
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bump "I'll cut to the point. Title…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-06:916966:Comment:12478782010-03-06T03:23:21.231ZLester Demings Jrhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<i><b>"I'll cut to the point. Title or not, we have work to do...but don't you think it's rather interesting that all those that say titles are not important and this or that...HAVE TITLES."</b></i><b><br />
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Coming from someone who does not have a title and don't want one lol I agree with this statement!!!<br />
If having a title is going to cause me to lose focus on what is most important- souls, healing and the love of Christ being shown to each and every person on this earth that I come in contact with…</b>
<i><b>"I'll cut to the point. Title or not, we have work to do...but don't you think it's rather interesting that all those that say titles are not important and this or that...HAVE TITLES."</b></i><b><br />
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Coming from someone who does not have a title and don't want one lol I agree with this statement!!!<br />
If having a title is going to cause me to lose focus on what is most important- souls, healing and the love of Christ being shown to each and every person on this earth that I come in contact with I'd rather just be LesBoogie and call it a day lol!!!<br />
I can win more souls being me than I can trying to be something the "church" feels I should be.</b> "If every believer would seri…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-03-06:916966:Comment:12478752010-03-06T03:17:03.260ZLester Demings Jrhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/lesterdemingsjr
<i><b>"If every believer would seriously and earnestly take advantage of every opportunity (opporunity always avails itself) to share the Gospel, imagine the impact this would have on our efforts to lead souls to salvation!"</b></i><b><br />
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The second best post I've seen on this site thus far!!!<br />
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All these titles do nothing but seperate people and cause seperatism, elitism and strife. SOME people feel just because they have a title that they can do as they please, say as they please and LIVE as…</b>
<i><b>"If every believer would seriously and earnestly take advantage of every opportunity (opporunity always avails itself) to share the Gospel, imagine the impact this would have on our efforts to lead souls to salvation!"</b></i><b><br />
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The second best post I've seen on this site thus far!!!<br />
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All these titles do nothing but seperate people and cause seperatism, elitism and strife. SOME people feel just because they have a title that they can do as they please, say as they please and LIVE as they please. However, I know who I am in God- will having a title in front of my name change me or my ministry challenge? I would hope not because the main reason for us being on this earth is to show the love of God and give life to the saving and changing power blood of Jesus.<br />
I doubt you'll get into heaven just because you have a title but on the contrary a title CAN send you to hell.</b> You said:
"I must put all my…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-02-19:916966:Comment:12287672010-02-19T21:46:33.394ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
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"<b><i>I must put all my energy into doing what God has called me to do. I pastored a church a few years ago and within months we had a decent crowd. Yes people that left there church and some I actually told to go back. Because they left for reasons behind not getting a title. Just started a second ministry that is growing a bit slower. I prayed and asked God to use us to win new souls. I'm not against God sending already saved members at all. New people to the area or whatever…</i></b>
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"<b><i>I must put all my energy into doing what God has called me to do. I pastored a church a few years ago and within months we had a decent crowd. Yes people that left there church and some I actually told to go back. Because they left for reasons behind not getting a title. Just started a second ministry that is growing a bit slower. I prayed and asked God to use us to win new souls. I'm not against God sending already saved members at all. New people to the area or whatever reason they are looking for a church. But I am no longer interested in saved people, i know that sound kind of wrong. But i'm not, not on that level.</i></b>"<br />
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<u>Thats "<i>Apostolic-talk</i>"!</u> Such is the focus of Kingdom-minded Apostolic leaders. You may not be an Apostle, and you may or may not be for Apostles in this day and age, but you sure are talking the Apostolic talk, and walking the Apostolic walk. What wonderful discussion in…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-02-19:916966:Comment:12285192010-02-19T19:29:53.459ZBishop Richard Grooverhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/RichardGroover
What wonderful discussion in here. I both agree and disagree. I guess some might say talking out of both sides of my mouth..lol And I don't want to bring up a point that has already been established. But I read on one of the threads that souls are not really being won. I agree on that matter. I have been around a long time. And it seems we are swamping members from one church to another. I have also learned not to waste to much time figuring out other people's ministry. If you say God called…
What wonderful discussion in here. I both agree and disagree. I guess some might say talking out of both sides of my mouth..lol And I don't want to bring up a point that has already been established. But I read on one of the threads that souls are not really being won. I agree on that matter. I have been around a long time. And it seems we are swamping members from one church to another. I have also learned not to waste to much time figuring out other people's ministry. If you say God called you to be an Apostle-bishop to the 3rd and 4th power. That is between you and God. If people chose to follow you with all those titles and 12 members. (Yes I know it has nothing to do with numbers)That's between them and God. I must put all my energy into doing what God has called me to do. I pastored a church a few years ago and within months we had a decent crowd. Yes people that left there church and some I actually told to go back. Because they left for reasons behind not getting a title. Just started a second ministry that is growing a bit slower. I prayed and asked God to use us to win new souls. I'm not against God sending already saved members at all. New people to the area or whatever reason they are looking for a church. But I am no longer interested in saved people, i know that sound kind of wrong. But i'm not, not on that level. God has called us to win souls that are on their way to hell. I am not going to preach against the Apostle-bishop nor talk about him. I have my personal beliefs that have originated from careful study of scripture and research into Church History. But i refuse to be the preacher that causes the church to seperate any further than it is right now. I will always preach against sin. I will not judge. Hey and for about 20 bucks you can go on the internet and get any title you want signed sealed and delivered. They will probably make one up for you. The most holy honorable Aposhipvangel. I'm joking. God Bless you all. And it is my sincere prayer that your ministries are blessed and doing Kingdom Work to the glory of God. I didn't mean it to sound lik…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-02-19:916966:Comment:12284192010-02-19T17:34:51.518ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
I didn't mean it to sound like an attack, but come on! Lets be real, the titles are necessary when used properly. If you want a lawyer, you wont call your plumber; if you want the dog, you wont ask for the cat; if you want Sue, you wont ask for Jack.<br />
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Likewise, if I want a Prophet I will ask for just that, <u>A PROPHET</u>:<br />
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<u>2nd Kings 3:11</u> "<i><b><u>But Jehoshaphat said, Is there not here a Prophet of the LORD, that we may enquire of the LORD by him?</u> And one of the king of Israel's…</b></i>
I didn't mean it to sound like an attack, but come on! Lets be real, the titles are necessary when used properly. If you want a lawyer, you wont call your plumber; if you want the dog, you wont ask for the cat; if you want Sue, you wont ask for Jack.<br />
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Likewise, if I want a Prophet I will ask for just that, <u>A PROPHET</u>:<br />
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<u>2nd Kings 3:11</u> "<i><b><u>But Jehoshaphat said, Is there not here a Prophet of the LORD, that we may enquire of the LORD by him?</u> And one of the king of Israel's servants answered and said, Here is Elisha the son of Shaphat, which poured water on the hands of Elijah</b></i>."<br />
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or an APOSTLE:<br />
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<u>1st Corinthians 9:1</u> "<i><b><u>Am I am not an Apostle?</u> am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?</b></i>"<br />
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or a BISHOP:<br />
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<u>Acts 20:28</u> "<b><i>Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, <u>over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you Overseers (Bishops),</u> to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.</i></b>"<br />
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If any person will dispute their usefulness, I will be ready to point out a few things concerning that person:<br />
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-they are not called to that particular official title that they are speaking against, therefore they lack understanding.<br />
-they are young in their calling, and therefore are speaking out of misguided zeal<br />
-they are hypocrites, possessing titles themselves that they aren't so ready to relinquish<br />
-they are rebellious, possessing titles, yet feeling threatened at the idea of someone potentially "outranking" their position (example: Bishops against Apostles due to the idea that they are the top member of the Church)<br />
-they are running from the Ministry calling<br />
-they are indoctrinated negative comments against a certain title/office<br />
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The first, second, and last one are the only ones that can gain sympathy. The people that fall into the rest of those categories ought to be ashamed of themselves. I do believe that there are those who are falsely claiming titles in order to sit with the up-echelon, but don't be careful as to how to handle the rest who are genuine.<br />
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<u>Acts 5:33-39</u> "<b><i>When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them. Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; and said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: but if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.</i></b>" Interestingly enough, its the…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-02-19:916966:Comment:12282012010-02-19T14:42:14.062ZArchbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greenehttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ArchbishopTrevorElihu
Interestingly enough, its the one's that come on with the title that are arguing about titles, especially with non-Biblical titles such as Reverend! Go figure......<br />
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Not to be boastful, but that statement of yours, RevZ62, moreso applies to me than to you. I'm on here with a Ministry uniform, but no title up, even though I hold a title. To find mine out, I will either have to tell you, you will have to read my profile, or simply ask. So like Chaplain asked before, why are you using RevZ62 on…
Interestingly enough, its the one's that come on with the title that are arguing about titles, especially with non-Biblical titles such as Reverend! Go figure......<br />
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Not to be boastful, but that statement of yours, RevZ62, moreso applies to me than to you. I'm on here with a Ministry uniform, but no title up, even though I hold a title. To find mine out, I will either have to tell you, you will have to read my profile, or simply ask. So like Chaplain asked before, why are you using RevZ62 on this site as it seems to contradict your statement above? I agree.tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-02-18:916966:Comment:12273532010-02-18T19:52:16.843ZHezekiah Ben Israelhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/HezekiahBenIsrael
I agree.
I agree. I introduce myself to virtual…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-02-17:916966:Comment:12263072010-02-17T23:07:14.727ZChaplain Pat Harrishttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/ChaplainPatHarris
<b>I introduce myself to virtually everyone with only my name even when wearing my collar. That in itself is identification enough.</b><br />
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May I ask why are you using RevZ62 on this site? Just curious as it seems to contradict your statement above.<br />
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Shalom in Yeshua
<b>I introduce myself to virtually everyone with only my name even when wearing my collar. That in itself is identification enough.</b><br />
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May I ask why are you using RevZ62 on this site? Just curious as it seems to contradict your statement above.<br />
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Shalom in Yeshua YOu tell us what is with all…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-02-17:916966:Comment:12258772010-02-17T18:28:10.116ZHezekiah Ben Israelhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/HezekiahBenIsrael
YOu tell us what is with all of these Titles, since you name is a title.<br />
Mr. REVZ62
YOu tell us what is with all of these Titles, since you name is a title.<br />
Mr. REVZ62