When you are Founder and Pastor...Is it wrong to refuse to take a salary but instead show the saints how to live by Faith? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-28T11:38:25Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/when-you-are-founder-and?commentId=916966%3AComment%3A1451621&feed=yes&xn_auth=nothxs....tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-09-10:916966:Comment:25957802011-09-10T17:20:08.526ZPastor Hattie White-Hopkinshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/PastorHattieWhite
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thxs.... I know this is not a very goo…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-08-10:916966:Comment:14862442010-08-10T16:27:39.616ZPastor Hattie White-Hopkinshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/PastorHattieWhite
I know this is not a very good subject to talk about ... but its real to me. I know I am not the only one. I needed to hear from some season pastors, talk about this. Either in your early Ministry of just starting your assignment from the Lord to Pastor, either your church was too small for you to receive a salary (church bills needed to be paid) or you just wanted to blessed the saints and teach them to trust the God in their pursue of him, no matter it looked like or sounded like. What ever…
I know this is not a very good subject to talk about ... but its real to me. I know I am not the only one. I needed to hear from some season pastors, talk about this. Either in your early Ministry of just starting your assignment from the Lord to Pastor, either your church was too small for you to receive a salary (church bills needed to be paid) or you just wanted to blessed the saints and teach them to trust the God in their pursue of him, no matter it looked like or sounded like. What ever your reasons... I know you can share. It would so help other to move forward in their obedience to know someone else went this way, of trusting the Lord and how he the Lord rewarded you for it; because he will and he has for me!!! Bless him Glory.<br />
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Their are so many, that say they have been called of God that will come in and rape (I call it, a one night stand, sometime never to see them again. Of telling the people of God how they will receive and have rob them. its sad and many fall for this kind of behavior)... raping the people of God in their finances and in the mean time they go without, the people of their needs many times... Can we just keep it real and lets help someone in this area, this is a platform I believe that you can put in your in- put; it can help. Amen!!!<br />
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I know that everyone called of God is worthy of their hire, and need a salary to meet their needs as they meet the spiritual needs of their congregation. I just wanted to know in your beginning of obedience to the Lord... What was it like for you. What was your struggles like in some areas of your obedience.....Be blessed!!! Wow, thank you A W Bowman, so…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-07-30:916966:Comment:14516212010-07-30T05:04:54.372ZPastor Hattie White-Hopkinshttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/PastorHattieWhite
Wow, thank you A W Bowman, so much for that encouraging word. Today I found myself back in the presence of the Lord inquiring of him concerning the very thing.... all I want to do is to please him be a vessel that he can flow thru and mot Lord over his people but to pastor, mentor, and lead them into a relationship with the Father thereby allowing Holy Spirit to empower them with the ability to go forth and do all the the Father has assigned them in the kingdom to do. I once set where they set…
Wow, thank you A W Bowman, so much for that encouraging word. Today I found myself back in the presence of the Lord inquiring of him concerning the very thing.... all I want to do is to please him be a vessel that he can flow thru and mot Lord over his people but to pastor, mentor, and lead them into a relationship with the Father thereby allowing Holy Spirit to empower them with the ability to go forth and do all the the Father has assigned them in the kingdom to do. I once set where they set so I can identify when they are many times. My heart is tender toward them. Maturing them in the knowledge of the word to be able to rightly divide.<br />
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When we were Ordained by our Bishop, we said to him we "Don't" know how to do this (Pastor, we were Elders and Evangelist but Pastoring nooooooo Lord NOOOOO please because we knew the weight of having people ( the saints) Souls you were accountable for in your hand. Did not want any one blood on my hand for not walking fully in all the Lord as anointed one to do) He simply said the people will teach you. Meaning you are a servant you're there to service and meet their needs spiritually and naturally. Be there for them in every thing always be mindful of them and their needs. Preach the word with power and demonstration. Teach them Christ the hope of GLORY!!!! Bless him glory...<br />
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I have found that simple truth to be my anchor in many circumstances... but yet I wrestle with this area. I can't see the saints struggle then I life live I have arrived. Don't get me wrong the Lord have proven himself over and over again in our lives. He allow us to buy a seven bed room home to the glory of God on three ac of land all with just me working before I lost my job ...he gave us soooo much favor to demonstrate to the church his favor. he blessed with favor for brand new vehicles. My husband use to say I don't want anyone saying when they see us blessed that ...well the church did it they taking all the money and the people are suffering need. I still feel that way It so much I could share but it would seen like it a boast and I never want that to be in the fore front. I want his glory to go before me at all times.<br />
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You know I am getting carried into a vain of just thinking about his mercy toward me right now. He has so taken of me since he called my husband home. I don't know he so honor s me even when I want to be at his feet, my Lord thank God. Thank you for allowing me to share.<br />
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Your words just so blessed me continue to pray his will will be for most in my life....<br />
Again thank you Ah, dear sister, you and your…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2010-07-29:916966:Comment:14511402010-07-29T22:47:20.391ZA.W. Bowmanhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/AWBowman
Ah, dear sister, you and your husband have done well. Receiving a salary or not receiving a salary is not the question, it is as you have lived - trusting in the Lord to provide. No where in scripture will you find that a 'pastor' or any elder in the church is to retire and live off the assembly. Even so, if the elders within the congregation are in need, the congregation should see to it that they basic needs are met - to the full extend of their abilities.<br />
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When you lost your job, the…
Ah, dear sister, you and your husband have done well. Receiving a salary or not receiving a salary is not the question, it is as you have lived - trusting in the Lord to provide. No where in scripture will you find that a 'pastor' or any elder in the church is to retire and live off the assembly. Even so, if the elders within the congregation are in need, the congregation should see to it that they basic needs are met - to the full extend of their abilities.<br />
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When you lost your job, the congregation is picking up the slack - just as the scriptures command us to take care of our widows and to give honor (in this case a needed salary) to those to whom honor is due. A ministering elder and widow certainly meets these scriptural requirements.<br />
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Take heart, you have lived the example you have preached and you stand as a living testimony of God's promised provision through the expressed love that the disciples of Christ have demonstrated toward you.<br />
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Grace and blessing continue to follow after you.