Most Black churches have one thing in common, NO MEN! I have heard black pastor’s talk about how much more cooperative women are than men are when leading them. I think this is an excuse to not have to deal with the strong personalities of men. Men are born to lead and deal with problems. Many pastors are insecure and don’t like having strong men in their churches, and that is why their churches are dying! David led Israel primarily due to the fact that he had a forum of Mighty Men! In David’s later years he wrote a chapter of appreciation about the exploits of these men. No great leader can really be great without great MEN following them and also leading WITH them, Moses had Joshua to assist him, and Joshua was NO PUNK! He was a strong man of faith himself! Moses didn’t act intimidated by the fact that Joshua was a mighty man of God, Moses appreciated it! The main reason the Nation of Islam is so appealing to Black men is that is speaks to what men appreciate…STRENGTH! Black pastors WAKE UP and realize you need strong men to HELP you lead! There are too many limp wristed men in our churches! It is no wonder our sisters are facing a crisis in the area of finding a husband! A man must be discipled to not only grow in Christ, but grow as a leader in the body.

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My father didn't raise us so mama raised us instead. She instilled us the importance of going to church and learning about God and the Bible just like her parents instilled in her. This is wrong with our Black men now, they stray away from church but as soon as someone dies or one of the holidays,they ease on back in the church and when it's over you can't find them back in there for many more months or if they're preaching over their body at a furneral.

I have seen it happened in my own lifetime and rather you think mama was wrong or not, she did the RIGHT THING to teach her 3 boys the RIGHT THING because it was her duty as a Black mother to teach us and I am still proud to say my mama taught me better than that, period!
Bro Jenkins:

Matthew 15:9 States:
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines *the commandments of men.*"

Your mother was only teaching you what she was taught, that Sunday took the place of Sabbath. She was not teaching you the "commandment of God/YHWH" to Remember the Sabbath day to keep it HOLY but she was teaching you the commandments of men.

Do you realize that she was actually teaching you to ***FORGET THE SABBATH*** and its' HOLINESS, which is not what Jesus/Yahshua taught to His followers?

Now that you can study the Bible and Church History, for yourself, you can discover why the apostate Church today teaches a different Gospel than the Messiah who they claim to follow taught.

Do you realize that we as Black people should be looking at the historic Ethiopian church who upheld the 7th day Sabbath until emissaries from the European church forced them to accept Sunday, in order to get military assistance from them.
Check out the following link to a book which will explain this little known history:

http://www.adventsource.org/as20/product.aspx?ID=30230
The Sabbath in Ethiopia
Description
Author Bekele Heye documents the commitment of Ethiopian Christians to Sabbath-keeping from the time of the apostles to the 20th century. The Sabbath in Ethiopia highlights the intense resistance of Ethiopians during the 15th and 16th centuries when outsiders used a variety of strategies to try to change the day of worship in Ethiopia to the first day of the week. Thousands of Ethiopians gave their lives to defend the seventh-day Sabbath.

Charles Bradford, retired president of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in America who discovered the manuscript, says that the Bible puts the world on notice about Ethiopia’s unique role in world history. Psalm 68:31 (KJV) states, “Princes shall come out of Egypt; Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hands unto God.”

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You don't have to accept the religion of the European slave masters handed down to us through our ancestors. The Bible exhorts you to "prove all things, hold fast to that which is good."

Our Creator NEVER commanded observance of Sunday.
His command was originally, it continued in our Messiah's day, is true for today and will be so in His kingdom. that the 7th day Sabbath be kept Holy.

This video link will also give you some insight:

http://www.the7thday.org/clips/partoneintro/intro.html
http://www.the7thday.org/clips/miracle/miracle.html
http://www.the7thday.org/clips/tradition/tradition.html
http://www.the7thday.org/clips/debate/debate.html
Bro Jenkins:

I am sharing the following with you and others so that you can be acquainted with Early Church History.
The Earliest Believers being Jews, did not stop keeping Sabbath, Please at your convenience check out, but I have posted below the text of

Acts 13:

[42] And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the *next sabbath*.

[43] Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

[44] And the *next sabbath day* came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
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Now Bro Jenkins, and any others who are willing to let the Bible interpret itself, we have from the very word of YHWH, an event from which we can determine whether the Apostles taught men to "be in church every Sunday morning".

The believers in this account are the Apostle Paul, Barnabas and others who were with him.

They are meeting in a Synagogue on Sabbath vs. 14 & vs 42.

There are Gentiles present who ask to hear the word the *"next Sabbath"*, vs. 42.

Since this request by the Gentiles, was made on Sabbath, (they were participating in CORPORATE WORSHIP ON SABBATH) the next day being Sunday, if Sunday Morning Services was the practice promoted by the Apostles,

why are the Gentiles asking that the Apostles preach to them again on the NEXT SABBATH???

if the Apostles had been teaching that SUNDAY MORNING was the NEW day of HOLINESS and CORPORATE WORSHIP, which supersceeded the HOLINESS and CORPORATE WORSHIP on 7th Day Sabbath which ordained by God/YHWH, observed and taught by Messiah, for a sign as to who
HIS PEOPLE are???

Why didn't the Gentiles ask to be taught "ON SUNDAY MORNING" which is the very next day???
Why wait a week later for the Sabbath if "Sunday morning Services" was part of the APOSTLES DOCTRINE???


Why didn't the Apostle Paul correct these Gentiles and say HOW SOON YOU FORGET, "we don't need to Remember the Sabbath" (as Bro Mark here teaches) "yall' come back tomorrow which is
SUNDAY MORNING!!!


The truth of the matter is that the Apostles NEVER taught the Believers to 'DISHONOR" THE SABBATH, as was taught later and is being taught in the churches today.

So why do misled preachers today who PROMOTE SUNDAY CORPORATE WORSHIP, rejecting CORPORATE WORSHIP ON SABBATH, when they have no example of such in the Bible?

We find in

Revelation 12
[9] ".... Satan, which deceiveth the whole world."

Satan is the Father of LIES and of the Counterfeit Sunday which many think is the Sabbath.

Those who promote it, obviously are not teaching "every word that proceeds from the mouth of YHWH" which our Savior commanded us to do.

The few texts that Sunday promoters site to support their selection of SUNDAY and rejection of Sabbath, doesn't make it a commandment to now reject the Sabbath and substitute Sunday.

Those of you who disagree with the message in this post please step forward with your Biblical evidence.
You have the floor

If you have no evidence, for our Sunday substitution of Sabbath, REPENT of your sin, your substitutions of the commandments and doctrines of men for the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD/YHWH.

(P.S. In my next post I will provide evidence that the references of Acts 20:7 &
1 Cor. 16:2, make reference to Sabbath and not Sunday.)

There is no Biblical requirement for Black men or any men or women or children, to be in church on Sunday Morning.
Acts 20:7 is usually cited in an effort to support the erroneous substitution of Sunday for corporate worship, and the dishonoring/neglect of the 7th Day Sabbath which of the two days, is the only day ordained by YHWH and exemplified throughout the life of Messiah for our corporate worship.

I present to you the translations of Tyndaly 1525, Coverdale and the Bishop's Bible which use the word "SABBATH" instead of the "first day of the week":

Tyndale 1525

Acts 20:7-
¶ On a saboth day the disciples came together for to break bread, and Paul preached unto them (ready to depart on the morrow) and continued the preaching unto midnight.


Coverdale

Acts 20:7-
Vpon one of the Sabbathes, whan the disciples came together to breake bred, Paul preached vnto them, wyllinge to departe on the morow, and contynued the preachinge vnto mydnight.


Bishop's Bible:

Acts 20:7-
And vpon one of the Sabboth dayes, when the disciples came together for to breake bread, Paul reasoned with the, redy to depart on the morowe, and continued the worde vnto mydnyght.

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Acts 20:7 therefore, concurrs with Acts 13 where Paul was participating in corporate worship on Sabbath and continuing with corporate worship in the following Sabbath, never once alluding to a change in the day of corporate worship from Sabbath to Sunday.

This text of Acts 20:7, cannot in honesty be used to support the violation of the Sabbath to have corporate worship on Sunday instead.
Very good post sister Ana!!!!

Praise the Lord.
Black men should be in Church anyway because THE WORD OF GOD says so in Psalms 122:1-2, "I was glad when they said unto me,Let us go into the House of the Lord.Our feet shall stand within thy gates,O Jerusalem."

We should not forsaken worship in the House of God keeping the Sabbath holy. As for my mom being wrong she was not and still is NOT wrong; I speak in her defense.
bad use of that scripture but .....I'll leave that one alone
This Black man was taught well by a lady who knew raised us THE RIGHT WAY!
thank you Sister......
The african american male seems to fear the church(if it dont apply let it fly)...I feel this has caused the black women to be the backbone of their community.

When this happens the whole thing goes to the gutter. I cant imagine the frustration african american women may feel because of this.
Deuteronomy 28:15-end shows us our condition (other scriptures also) and why...we are a disobedient people and suffer because of it...
Absolutely! THAT IS THE UNAVOIDABLE REAL!

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