Why do Pastors Fall? - Black Preaching Network2024-03-28T10:28:17Zhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/forum/topics/why-do-pastors-fall?feed=yes&xn_auth=nono just the truth . I fall is…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2012-03-08:916966:Comment:29365012012-03-08T19:15:00.087Zharvey carrollhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/harveycarroll
<p>no just the truth . I fall is a fall a sin is a sin . all of them are the same in the sight of God . 1John tells us that as well my little children i am writing these things to you that u do not sin . And if anyone sins we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and He himself is the propitiation for our sin; and not for ours but also for the whole world . The verse is clear that we can try to walk as perfect as we can but we always have someone pleading our case, If…</p>
<p>no just the truth . I fall is a fall a sin is a sin . all of them are the same in the sight of God . 1John tells us that as well my little children i am writing these things to you that u do not sin . And if anyone sins we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and He himself is the propitiation for our sin; and not for ours but also for the whole world . The verse is clear that we can try to walk as perfect as we can but we always have someone pleading our case, If these men and women where perfect then there is no need for a savoir at all</p> That would be do wonderful bu…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-15:916966:Comment:20131112011-04-15T16:17:28.923Zharvey carrollhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/harveycarroll
That would be do wonderful but it is not true In Genesis Ch 3 there was a perfect situation with God and Adam and yet sin became a part of there lives it was a deception after being warned of tree in the garden of good and evil . It was still sin none the less the point and the focus is that we sin because of the out father Adam in a none perfect fallen world . The bible tell we are born in sin and shaped in iniquity why that because our parents are sinners . The only way we escape this is…
That would be do wonderful but it is not true In Genesis Ch 3 there was a perfect situation with God and Adam and yet sin became a part of there lives it was a deception after being warned of tree in the garden of good and evil . It was still sin none the less the point and the focus is that we sin because of the out father Adam in a none perfect fallen world . The bible tell we are born in sin and shaped in iniquity why that because our parents are sinners . The only way we escape this is when we reach perfection and that does not happen on this side . To have those we are accountable to is nice but they are sinners as well . The whole idea is to lean on Christ and do as David says ask forgiveness as he has said against u and u alone have i sinned against If you want a clear view abou…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-14:916966:Comment:20125902011-04-14T22:20:35.705Zharvey carrollhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/harveycarroll
If you want a clear view about sin read Romans the first two chapters .
If you want a clear view about sin read Romans the first two chapters . I want to examine the text l…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-14:916966:Comment:20123372011-04-14T22:15:27.820Zharvey carrollhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/harveycarroll
I want to examine the text let us take a closer look shall we James makes the statement to resist the Devil and he will flee.The passage is more centered around conduct with in the walls of the Church.Look at verse4 it tells us about being friends with the world and if we are we are enemies of God . The beginning of verse 7 says to submit to God he is again talking about Church conduct that is why the next verse say Humble yourself in the sight of the Lord and verse 11 then he says dont talk…
I want to examine the text let us take a closer look shall we James makes the statement to resist the Devil and he will flee.The passage is more centered around conduct with in the walls of the Church.Look at verse4 it tells us about being friends with the world and if we are we are enemies of God . The beginning of verse 7 says to submit to God he is again talking about Church conduct that is why the next verse say Humble yourself in the sight of the Lord and verse 11 then he says dont talk about one another . The idea James is getting at is the body of Christ should act kind to one another again there is no choice there of sinning are not to sin . If u start at verse1 u get a better background of the passage he tell them of there conduct James speaks of fights among u and the cravings that are at war within you this is all about bad conduct not the choice of sin are not to sin sorry it is not in there. Thanks Chas for the contribut…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-14:916966:Comment:20123312011-04-14T18:45:17.897ZPastor Olori Godwinhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/OloriGodwin
<p>Thanks Chas for the contribution but the truth remains that if What happened to King David should happened today to any Minster of the gospel he/she will be crucified. Even when he/she had made peace with God. People will see him as not being worth of representing God again.</p>
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<p>I agree there is a need for the sheep to keep the shepherd lifted up in the place of prayer. But why do Pastor falls? There are report of astrocities that are being commited by a lot of Pastors and this…</p>
<p>Thanks Chas for the contribution but the truth remains that if What happened to King David should happened today to any Minster of the gospel he/she will be crucified. Even when he/she had made peace with God. People will see him as not being worth of representing God again.</p>
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<p>I agree there is a need for the sheep to keep the shepherd lifted up in the place of prayer. But why do Pastor falls? There are report of astrocities that are being commited by a lot of Pastors and this is not a good report.</p> Sorry it was an over sight. I…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-14:916966:Comment:20125112011-04-14T18:37:41.170ZPastor Olori Godwinhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/OloriGodwin
Sorry it was an over sight. I wanted to say James 4:6,7. Where the scripture says resist the devil and he will flee from you. So this implies that we can resist from falling. Especially when we draw near to God.
Sorry it was an over sight. I wanted to say James 4:6,7. Where the scripture says resist the devil and he will flee from you. So this implies that we can resist from falling. Especially when we draw near to God. thank you that is exactly the…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-14:916966:Comment:20125662011-04-14T16:12:12.979Zharvey carrollhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/harveycarroll
thank you that is exactly the point
thank you that is exactly the point Well the idea was nice but th…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-13:916966:Comment:20116472011-04-13T16:59:41.614Zharvey carrollhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/harveycarroll
Well the idea was nice but the bases is wrong James in this passage is talking about showing favoritism to those who are rich . James here was telling the church not to make the rich fell important at church . The passage has nothing to do with making a sin choice at all . James is tell the church that we have to treat people with respect when they have a little are more then we do . James then says that the choice in this case is not to treat the poor bad and the rich good because God chose…
Well the idea was nice but the bases is wrong James in this passage is talking about showing favoritism to those who are rich . James here was telling the church not to make the rich fell important at church . The passage has nothing to do with making a sin choice at all . James is tell the church that we have to treat people with respect when they have a little are more then we do . James then says that the choice in this case is not to treat the poor bad and the rich good because God chose to deal with those who had less but where rich in spirit . In that the example the choice was not about sin but what the church conduct to all should be apart of the body of Christ . If you have doubt look at verse 8 James says" Love your neighbor as yourself" his idea was to help all to who needed help not to say one is better than another understand the word neighbor in the greek means the one closest to you. The context does not lead to the idea of a sin choice sorry it just is not there . I would agree that human natu…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-10:916966:Comment:20092442011-04-10T11:00:47.673ZJoseph Gillhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/JosephGill
I would agree that human nature is inclined to sin, but if we can "work on not sinning," as you phrase it, then sin must be on some level <span style="text-decoration: underline;">a choice</span>. We can choose not to sin (with God's help).<br/>
I would agree that human nature is inclined to sin, but if we can "work on not sinning," as you phrase it, then sin must be on some level <span style="text-decoration: underline;">a choice</span>. We can choose not to sin (with God's help).<br/> Many people don't want to acc…tag:abcpreachers.ning.com,2011-04-09:916966:Comment:20093922011-04-09T22:39:39.141ZPastor Olori Godwinhttps://abcpreachers.ning.com/profile/OloriGodwin
Many people don't want to accept the fact that it was a choice. We can resist falling James 2:6, 7 after all Jesus resisted.
Many people don't want to accept the fact that it was a choice. We can resist falling James 2:6, 7 after all Jesus resisted.