Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?

Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.

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Start that discussion on the topic and I know it will be addressed. You know on this site if a discussion is started it gets started and most times doesn't stay on the topic of issue. Sometimes this going around in circles benefits one that doesn't the other but if anyone gets the message it's good. True I too believe some may think they are glorying God but in reality it's about "what I'm saying so how come you don't understand" mentality. God bless.
You can't do ANY of this until there is order in the house.
God is not in confusion.
The house is confused because they choose to take the Bible and cut it up and fit pieces where they want to.
Get order in the house.
Set the house in order.
Then things can begin.
Well in Revelation, we see where God talked too 7 different Churches, yet they were out of Order in some aspect. Yet he was warning, as well as edifying, and leaving Hope. So no-matyter what the rest are doing, make sure that the individuals life is rooted in CHRIST, and continue too work.

Funny how many different groups in the world are prospering in all of the madness that is going on, and yet many CHURCH goers are waiting for the right time.....

THE TIME IS NOW TOO SERVE THE LORD;;;;;;;;;;;;
NOT TOO LOOK FOR ORDER.......................
I agree with you Minister Tracy. In a response to one of Mr. Smith comments on women being pastors/bishop, I ended the response with the following...Amazingly we do not apply the same principles or gender suffixes when speaking of the singer (palmist), the writer (scribe), teacher, president etc. Meanwhile, people are in need of ministry (healing and deliverance; restoration and reconciliation); and we are spending our time focused on debating the matters of which gender is called to what office and which sin is greater than the other.
WHAT A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS.
page 26, 27, 28, 29,30... will all be the same ole same ole LOL
On what Mr. Smith said just now, I have to agree. You mentioned that the disciples had a similar type of argument. Well, before any Pentecostal power was out poured, ORDER WAS SET. In Acts 15, they bickered about the Law, and before the Apostles could go forward with ministry ORDER WAS SET. 1st Corinthians was an epistle written to stop the bickering on certain subjects, answer questions, and SET ORDER. Going out and evangelizing the world, making disciples of men is all good, but NO General would send an Army out until ORDER WAS SET.

No offense but I have to say the truth here: a foolish over zealous person not fit for leadership would send out people with the notion of "THE TIME IS NOW TOO SERVE THE LORD, NOT TOO LOOK FOR ORDER", because before GOD rested on the 7th day, HE set everything and everyone in order and saw that it was good.

GOD is not the author of confusion.
WHLE WE GETTIN OUR HOUSE IN ORDER AND WAITING TO BE SENT OUT AS AN ARMY OF ONE.... YAHOO NEWS POSTS THIS STATEMENT:

One nation under many gods?

Amid the holy days for Christians and Jews this month, a new Newsweek poll shows that 62 percent of Americans consider the U.S. a Christian nation, a considerable drop from the 71 percent polled in 2005

While the Newsweek poll shows a marked decline (although 62 percent isn't exactly a low number), it's interesting to see a growing openness among Americans toward other religions, starting at the White House.

HOW INTERESTING IT IS THAT CHRISTIANS CAN SIT AMONGST THEMSELVES AND ENGAGE IN STRIVINGS ABOUT WHAT IS LAWFUL OR NOT WHILE HERE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE WE ARE IN A INCREASING DECLINE OF HOLDING UP THE "BLOOD STAINED BANNER" AS BELIEVERS IN THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD AND MORE AND MORE HERE ON OUR OWN COUNTRY'S SOIL STROLLING IN UNCHALLENGED IS THE PARADIGM OF ACCEPTANCE AND TOLERANCE OF "OTHER" RELIGIONS.

BUT HEY... AS LONG AS WE STAY IN OUR "HOUSE" AND BICKER WE WON'T BE AFFECTED BY WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE....OR WILL WE?

Maybe the ones bickering ...no wait... "discussing" are actually in custody of the MVPs and don't even know it... while the warriors are out in the field away from the discord amongst the saints..... Yep... a good general would lock up confusion in a prison house while his soldiers are out on the field following orders. Hey, no need to have "discussions" out in the field. All you need are marching orders and those who will march without looking to having a "discussion" about the orders.

Should the Army soldier discuss his orders with the Navy sailor??? Should the Marine compare his orders to the Air Force fighter pilot?

If by page 26 of a discussion... no simblance of connection, understanding, or agreement is met.... what is left to discuss? Should we discuss what we've been discussing ad nauseum??

It becomes nothing more than... dare I say it.... a pissing contest.

*smh*
The word Christian means "Christ-like" or "disciple of Christ" and it was meant as a joke in the original context. They were NOT called Hebrews at first, for Hebrew is a culture and a bloodline of people. They were called Jews of a different sect, entitled The Way.

By the way, the Hebrew word for CHRISTIAN is literally translated out to be NAZARITE, so to claim to be a "Hebrew" is actually off unless you were born physically from the lineage of Abraham's family line.
They were first called Christian in Antioch by the Gentiles and it meant "followers of Christ". From the second century on it became a title of honor. Hebrew meant "one from beyond". This was termed by the Caananites for those coming from the other side of the Euphrates. A Christian wasn't a Nazarite! Nazarites were Hebrews that by vows abstained from certain things. Samson was one who didn't shave period. Jesus was considered a Nazarite because He was Nazarine. The vows were to God and some chosen by God as Samson.

The Church was/is never built on lies what happened and is happening is that Satan has infiltrated the Church as you may very well expect to confuse just as he confuses Hebrew Root Believers also. Jesus told us of false teachers and prophets so this too is no surprise. If you are in Christ Jesus and have the protection of His full armour and helmet of salvation and walk in the Spirit you'll be alright. The enemy comes at us in many ways and deceitfullness. Many ways!
You totally misunderstood the meaning of the word and what I meant. A Nazarite vow is a vow of holiness to GOD, with the same level of dedication as the Prophets of old, but not necessarily the same ordinances. JESUS took up the Nazarite vow just as well (study the vow and study His prophetic lifestyle) and HE was literally a Nazarene because He grew up in Nazareth.

The Talmudic Hebrew word for CHRISTIAN is "Notzri" and literally translated out to be "NAZARENE". The vow of the Nazarite is a vow of separation, separation unto YHWH our FATHER, separation from the world and its ways. The word Nazarite in Hebrew is "Naziyr" and literally means to be set-apart. The word Church in Greek is ecclesia and we all know that is the word "set apart ones" as well. The very idea of being a Nazarite is to live a set-apart life. Nazarites like Prophets are obviously highly revered by YAHWEH. What He is called, so are we called! His the Son of GOD; we are called sons of GOD. He was called separate unto GOD; we are the "Ecclesia". He called a Nazarene, we are called Nazarites or Nazarenes in other countries around the world.
I see that the homosexuals and their sympathizers are trying to hijack this topic and focus on something else. I told you these guys are as devious as the Devil their master. The bible makes it clear that in the Lord there is neither male nor female. Yes women can preach the word. I will rather have a woman preaching the truth of God's word than a lying homosexual preacher. The difference is that homsexuals are a spiritual pollutant in the church and women are not.
I am therefore preparing more damning facts to post here soon in order to redirect this issue . If we christians dont rise up to challenge this move of the devil, i prophesy to you it wont be long before gay marriages are legitimised in all the 50 states. Homosexuals will sodomize your children and your children's children, from the snow peaked caps of the Rockies to the pine-clustered beaches of Maine. Stay tuned.
Why is that there are no Jewish temples marrying homosexuals, moslem mosques marrying homosexuals, hindu shrines marrying homosexuals, Buddist marrying homosexuals but the Christian church? Have you stopped to consider that. Simple. The others wont tolerate it.You cant even raise the topic among them. They still hold onto old testament teaching where homosexuals are stoned to death. But the christian church has come too much under western influence, western morality, instead of biblical morality.
There was a radio topic two dyas ago on this same topic NPR, and all the contributors seem to agree that Vermount's allowing homosexual marriages is a sign of PROGRESS for the American society.
When the US sent astronauts to the moon in the 60's, the entire world hailed it as progress for mankind, today when a man is allowed to ram his fellow man hairy a.h we hail it as progress. Well, the world wont join in this time.

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