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The Theology of Ordination
"What is the theology of ordination?"
That's a question that got me in trouble at my own ordination. Essentially, I asked the committee, "What theology of ordination?"
Well, I managed to smooth things over with the committee by pointing out the practical value of ordination as practiced in some of the modern denominations--it is a process in which the background of the candidate is carefully checked in order to ensure that, essentially, the requirements of 1 Tim. 3 and Titus 1 are met. It keeps--or, at least should keep--predators out of the Lord's flock.
The idea of ordination would appear to have its roots in Acts 13, where the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul to the work which I have called them." So we have those who are "set apart." Some are set apart for music ministry, some for the pastorate, and so forth. Those who are ordained for music have musical ability, those who are ordained for missions have gifts for missions. Do we ordain in response to the Holy Spirit, or as a result of a very worldly assessment of natural abilities? Hopefully, we weigh the former more than the latter.
The Laying On of Hands
Sadly, many have added the laying on of hands to their arsenal of pleagian magic--actions in which they would try to force God to recognize a change to a human that results from certain actions and procedures performed by other humans (but see Rom. 11:34, "Who has ever put God in their debt?"). The laying on of hands that climaxes many modern Christian ordination services has its roots in such passages as 1 Tim. 4:14, which recalls a time when elders laid hands on Timothy. But the text describes this action as the giving of a "prophetic message," and Paul refers to it again in 2 Tim. 1:6--this time as a "gift of God." To interpret these passages properly, it is probably best to examine the Acts. In Acts 19:6, the "hands" are associated with the gifts of the Holy Spirit, not an office. Also, Acts 20:28 is very clear that it is the Holy Spirit that selects "overseers." There is absolutely nothing in the 1 Tim. or the 2 Tim. passages that suggest that the overseers are making of Timothy another overseer by the laying on of hands. We are on much better biblical ground if we interpret the "hands" passages as the imparting of some sort of charismatic gift or, in Acts 19:6, a facilitating of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit himself.
A Blessing or Prayer
So the biblical laying on of hands is more a blessing than it is a rite that transfers authority or office (Ferguson, 5:39). Its usage in Christianity is based on Gen. 48:14 (Jacob blessing his grandchildren), and Mk. 10:13-16 (Jesus blessing the little children). After Pentecost it is associated, quite naturally, with the work of the Holy Spirit.
Banks offers another approach to the New Testament laying on of hands--that of enacted prayer. He suggests that the layong on of hands was a physical action that "did not just accompany the prayer; it was part of the prayer itself."(Banks, 80).
The reader will have to decide for himself what the "setting apart" passage in Acts actually means--but please bear its context in mind.
Is this not really a setting apart for missions?
Is it not a response of obedience to God's Spirit?
Is it not a commissioning into a place of service?
Finally, where in this passage is any kind of authority bestowed on Barnabas and Saul?
Where we understand ordination as prayer or blessing, and where it can be used to police the entry into the pastorate or to recognize and affirm the work that God has done to prepare an individual for a work of service, let's by all means keep ordination. My own testimony is that I was blessed--greatly blessed--by the laying on of hands (God somehow arranged it so that pastors of more than one denomination participated in my case). But let us be very careful that we don't attach too much consequence to whether one is ordained or not ordained. Nowhere in the discussions of gifting and duties of the church does Paul make any such requirement. Why should we?
Conclusion
Here is the bottom line: It would be a shame if a house church wished to bless, commission, or otherwise respond to the Holy Spirit to "set apart" one of its number for a particular work of service, but demurred because they did not have any "ordained" members. When the modern house church movement was born in a house church meeting in Zurich, many who had previously been "ordained" by the Catholic Church were present. Yet when George Cajacob arose and begged to be given "the true Christian baptism"--the act that caused them to break with the state church and would be a death sentence for nearly all of them--it was to the unordained Conrad Grabel that he turned (see "Counter Clutural Discipleship").
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Bibliography
Robert Banks, Paul's Idea of Community, Revised ed. (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson: 1994). [This book is listed on the Resources page].
Everett Ferguson, s.v., "Ordination," The Anchor Bible Dictionary, 5:37-39.
"What is the theology of ordination?"
That's a question that got me in trouble at my own ordination. Essentially, I asked the committee, "What theology of ordination?"
Well, I managed to smooth things over with the committee by pointing out the practical value of ordination as practiced in some of the modern denominations--it is a process in which the background of the candidate is carefully checked in order to ensure that, essentially, the requirements of 1 Tim. 3 and Titus 1 are met. It keeps--or, at least should keep--predators out of the Lord's flock.
The idea of ordination would appear to have its roots in Acts 13, where the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul to the work which I have called them." So we have those who are "set apart." Some are set apart for music ministry, some for the pastorate, and so forth. Those who are ordained for music have musical ability, those who are ordained for missions have gifts for missions. Do we ordain in response to the Holy Spirit, or as a result of a very worldly assessment of natural abilities? Hopefully, we weigh the former more than the latter.
The Laying On of Hands
Sadly, many have added the laying on of hands to their arsenal of pleagian magic--actions in which they would try to force God to recognize a change to a human that results from certain actions and procedures performed by other humans (but see Rom. 11:34, "Who has ever put God in their debt?"). The laying on of hands that climaxes many modern Christian ordination services has its roots in such passages as 1 Tim. 4:14, which recalls a time when elders laid hands on Timothy. But the text describes this action as the giving of a "prophetic message," and Paul refers to it again in 2 Tim. 1:6--this time as a "gift of God." To interpret these passages properly, it is probably best to examine the Acts. In Acts 19:6, the "hands" are associated with the gifts of the Holy Spirit, not an office. Also, Acts 20:28 is very clear that it is the Holy Spirit that selects "overseers." There is absolutely nothing in the 1 Tim. or the 2 Tim. passages that suggest that the overseers are making of Timothy another overseer by the laying on of hands. We are on much better biblical ground if we interpret the "hands" passages as the imparting of some sort of charismatic gift or, in Acts 19:6, a facilitating of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit himself.
A Blessing or Prayer
So the biblical laying on of hands is more a blessing than it is a rite that transfers authority or office (Ferguson, 5:39). Its usage in Christianity is based on Gen. 48:14 (Jacob blessing his grandchildren), and Mk. 10:13-16 (Jesus blessing the little children). After Pentecost it is associated, quite naturally, with the work of the Holy Spirit.
Banks offers another approach to the New Testament laying on of hands--that of enacted prayer. He suggests that the layong on of hands was a physical action that "did not just accompany the prayer; it was part of the prayer itself."(Banks, 80).
The reader will have to decide for himself what the "setting apart" passage in Acts actually means--but please bear its context in mind.
Is this not really a setting apart for missions?
Is it not a response of obedience to God's Spirit?
Is it not a commissioning into a place of service?
Finally, where in this passage is any kind of authority bestowed on Barnabas and Saul?
Where we understand ordination as prayer or blessing, and where it can be used to police the entry into the pastorate or to recognize and affirm the work that God has done to prepare an individual for a work of service, let's by all means keep ordination. My own testimony is that I was blessed--greatly blessed--by the laying on of hands (God somehow arranged it so that pastors of more than one denomination participated in my case). But let us be very careful that we don't attach too much consequence to whether one is ordained or not ordained. Nowhere in the discussions of gifting and duties of the church does Paul make any such requirement. Why should we?
Conclusion
Here is the bottom line: It would be a shame if a house church wished to bless, commission, or otherwise respond to the Holy Spirit to "set apart" one of its number for a particular work of service, but demurred because they did not have any "ordained" members. When the modern house church movement was born in a house church meeting in Zurich, many who had previously been "ordained" by the Catholic Church were present. Yet when George Cajacob arose and begged to be given "the true Christian baptism"--the act that caused them to break with the state church and would be a death sentence for nearly all of them--it was to the unordained Conrad Grabel that he turned (see "Counter Clutural Discipleship").
House Church Central Home Page
Bibliography
Robert Banks, Paul's Idea of Community, Revised ed. (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson: 1994). [This book is listed on the Resources page].
Everett Ferguson, s.v., "Ordination," The Anchor Bible Dictionary, 5:37-39.
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Comment by Apostle/ProphetessEvelyn Adewoye on November 21, 2009 at 2:10am
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Please feel free to listen to 12Midnight Prayer Hour. Please give about 3 minutes in music playing, and silence to start the prayer. The radio was going in/out, but God is good, He allow the prayer and the message to go forward. Amen.
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One Million Wailing Men Women!
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Bishop Calvin Colquitt
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The End Time Prophetic Word Fellowship Int. Rev. 10:11
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Hello Everyone,
We had our 12Midnight Prayer Hour. We came from Mark 14:32-42-The Prayer in the Garden. It takes about the Garden of Gethesmane, where Jesus and His disciples went often. Jesus wanted His disciples to support Him in their presence and prayers. He wanted them to stay up during this crucial time when He was giving up himself for the sins of the world. He was to experience the judgement of death for the sins of the people in this world. We need to pray during this time in the darkest hour because a lot of sins in the world are being committed, crime, sacrifices, street walkers, drugs, alcohol, fornication, adultery, prostitution, homosexuality, lesbian, child molestation, rape, demonic and occult practices, wickedness, evil spirits, witchcraft, roots, and spirit of wickedness in high places. We need to give God our time and prayers in the darkest hour. Wake Up! Rise Up! Jesus Christ Did. Let's take this time to intercede for the sins of the world, all this evil, demonic activities, and wickedness in the world. Recruiting for Servants standing up for Jesus Christ, who are willing to Rise Up in the Darkest Hour, Watch, and Pray! Take an hour to listen, intercede, and join us next week Friday night on November 6, 2009, consider Saturday morning 12am-1am. The number is 347-934-0732. God bless.
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Comment by Pastor Brenda Ellison on October 27, 2009 at 6:34pm
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Thanks for sharing...Bishop McClendon's message is timely and needful.....
Shalom
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Comment by A.W. Bowman on October 16, 2009 at 10:43am
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Pastor Brenda Ellison -
A most excellent presentation. Thank you!
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What is theology of ordination? Institutionalized Christianity birthed out of pagan practices? case and point. First, Leadership in the early church model was recognized through Elders and they would be publicly endorsed "after" they were already in place through the process of time. They were not appointed to an external office. Seniority and the contributions in the assembly deemed them gifted in various areas of ministry and that is instinctive and organic. There are three passages in the NT that ELDERS were publicly recognized..Crete, Ephesus and Galatia.. If we take the time to look at the origins, we will have a clear view of theology and what an ordination represents. Ordain-- Opinions are a dime a dozen, but truth will stand and a lie will eventually Fall! Ordinations given by who? Ordain do not mean to place in office. Affirming, endorse, showing forth what was already happening...equals BLESSING. Who is your Covering? Acts 16:2 1 Thess. 1:512 1 Cor. 16:18 Php. 2:22 Stretch forth the hand....in Blessing in the case of those being sent out...not place in office. Affirmation of a function, not the installment into an office or the giving of a special statue over others...Can't you see the damage that has already come from this practice? The ceremony satisfies flesh with embellished symbolic garments and solemn ritual. The pattern came from the Roman Catholic custom of appointing men to civil office. Policing YHWH'S people has nothing to do with The Holy Spirit nor God's approval...man can approve anything he wants but God is the finisher of our faith. There will be consequences for the suppressors...Moses says ALL of God's people can prophesy....God will judge those who oppress the widow,the fatherless, and the stranger, He says, So I will come near to you for judgment. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers, and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress ...after all it is really about the money at the end of the day for those that form this allegience of power structure...depriving the body of the truth level of spiritual clarity that the Father has for His people and justice that is not from God. How foolish of us to think that man can substain us in matters that only come from the throne and are eternal....Clergy and laity....what does that mean? Holiness ? So are vicars of God on the earth? Paul knew nothing of this ordination that confers ministerial or clerical powers to a christians. Set above the rest of the flock....? try serving them the flock and stop the superiority ruling masscrade that has been damaging and nonscriptural from the beginning. The recognition of a function, this idea is humbling I know but it is requred by God. Why are so many needing validation from man when YHWH, your Elohim has given you what you need to carry out HIS mission....Relationship is what you really need not another fragile human as yourself to guide you down a path of destruction. Clergy-laity TRADITION has puffed up and has done more undermining of scriptural authority than most HERESIES....those under its power do not know the truth from a lie...All biblical context was lost...proof- reading methods are used to justify the clergy-laity hierarchy...watch how many will fall away and the ordinary believer will be free to move as the Holy Spirit gives utterance!
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Comment by Bishop Michael Daniels on September 25, 2009 at 8:10pm
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Comment by Carolyn Tournear on September 19, 2009 at 12:44pm
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Praise the Lord. This is the day that the Lord has made and I will rejoice it.
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