As I journey towards my elevation to the office of Bishop in the Lord's Church, I have noticed throughout the recent years, an influx of the usage of the title of Bishop and Apostle and MANY of these persons are "SELF-APPOINTED" and have NO APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION nor LINEAGE. In fact, some were consecrated by Bishops and Apostles with NO SUCCESSION nor LINEAGE. Let's Discuss this.

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You are so correct. The self appointed bishopric is much larger than the legitimate. And many using titles have no idea what their purpose or appointment entails.

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You are on point, MANY don't know the 1st idea about the Bishopric or Episcopacy, all they want is the title and NOT the work.

Thank you for letting sit on your porch and share my view.....
The porch is always open. Have some iced tea on your next visit! Smile.
Iagree. However, the office of Bishop articulated in scripture and described by the Apostle Paul in 1 Tim.chapter 3 is actually established in the church for governance. Wherby, the ministry of apostle is by definition (Eph.4:11) a calling by God (himself) for the"perfecting of the saints..."
I was consecrated Bishop by Apostle Fred Sanders who was consecrated Bishop by Chief Aposlte William L. Bonner who was consecrated Bishop by Apostle Robert Clarence Lawson founder and establishmentarian of the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ who was called by God to be an Apostle and ordained by Bishop G.T. Haywood, Pentecostal Assemblies of the World who was saved through the Azuza Street Revival.
Bishop Keyes, this is what I'm getting at, because MANY carry the title, BUT NOT THE LINEAGE nor the BLESSING OF THE FATHERS OF THE FAITH that they came from. My lineage of succession when I'm consecrated will span about 50 years (between the Bishops who consecrating me) and they ALL are still active in ministry. And it's SOOOOOO easy to get a Clergy Shirt (Purple, Roman Purple, etc.) Collars, Cross, Ring and all the vestments that are required WITHOUT ANY HISTORY, LEGITIMACY or PROVEN MINISTRY.
Oh my! You are on it now! The BLESSING OF A FATHER! Most done even know what that is about. Thus, they operate without blessing or favor and think they can get it by someone laying hands on them! No sir, this comes ONLY by inheritance! Can I get a witness!

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And I feel the anointing this morning! Smile.
Bishop Keyes, we have similar heritage. My grandfather, who was a Bishop in the PAJC, often spoke about sitting and listening to Bishop Haywood's teaching. I would have loved to been a mouse in that place!

Blessings!
Sounds like a man's voice to me. How do we know it's God?
Bishop is an office of governance and not of necessity five fold. On the other hand, Apostle is a five fold role. However, to the overall topic, we have too many worried about title instead of how they fit in what God is doing.

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Dr. Wade, this is where a lot of these SELF-APPOINTED Bishops and Apostles MISS THE MARK. They don't understand the offices that they GLORY IN/OVER NOR do they want to be informed about these offices/titles and purpose, work, and accountability of the office. That's why I BELIEVE with my whole heart in what the bible says in Luke 12:47-48; I Tim. 3:1-7; Titus 1:6-9.
Someone said, I think it was Mr. T. "Know your role". What they call an office is merely a role.

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4th of all lets begin with the truth the Bishopric is not in the 5 fold diocesan. It is a man made office.Now since we got that out of the way most of you make valid points but you don't back up your points with the facts.What is an Apostle?,How many of you really hold the position of an Apostle by works and deeds? Most of you will oppose what I'm about to say but if you think I'm wrong then check the scriptures.Apostle set up churches, put pastors in them, and finance the work until it is a viable entity. If the church that you say you are over has already been started and you didn't start it you are not the Apostle over that work.If you cover ministries you are a Bishop not an Apostle.Apostles-Start,Finance,Build,Put money in instead of take money out,Teach,Pay bills,If you don't do this you are not an Apostle you are a fraud as most of you are. I am a lay Minister but I study the word and I'm tired of these fake just got a license ministers telling everyone that thay are a Bishop or Apostle with nothing to show.Then they say that they are International they have not been to Canada but they are International Wow.

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