"Comments on the Trinity Doctrine"
Comments on the Trinity Doctrine
In this study we will discuss what the Qodesh Scriptures have to say about the true nature of the Abba/Father, alHayah Yahuweh. And His Son, the alMessiYah and our Savior & Redeemer, Yahushua haMashiyakh with Yah's indwelling Ruwakh haQodesh.
Some want to tell us that we worship a trinity. When going furthur into this subject with one who believes a trinity, they often like to explain away the contradictions with saying:
"It's just one of the great mysteries of the faith"
A mystery indeed, it has never made any sense to me. 3 is 1 yet 1 is all three yet all 3 are 1 and 1 is all 3?
Most of the basis of it is concerning the use of the title "Elohim", translated "God". The word "Elohim" is the most overused word in trying to prove the Trinity. Or perhaps the common english translation "God". I came to understand that this word "Elohim" does have other uses than 'deity'. It can also mean a "judge" or a "ruler". This is also true of the word 'Theos' in greek. In fact, one of the translations translated "theos" as 'ruler'. Their high trust in this word can be refuted if you understand that haElohim is a title that describes Yahuweh just as the word "King" or "Master" describes Yahuweh. It is not really a crown of some sort, as many in Christianinty would say. It is not such a proprietary thing to be called "haElohim". It is true that there is only one Alaha/haElohim. Just as there is really only one Master. But this word is also used to describe man...
Psalms 29:1 - Give unto YAHUWEH, O ye mighty, give unto YAHUWEH glory and strength.
"Mighty" is "El" in Hebrew (which is the singular form of Alaha/haElohim). There is also one that Yahushua pointed out.. as we will get into later. The word is also used to describe men, malak/angels and yes, Yahushua also. Yahushua is very worthy of this title "Elohim" but the common reasoning is:
The Father is "Alaha/haElohim/God"
The Son is "Alaha/haElohim/God
The Holy Spirit is "Alaha/haElohim/God"
Thus they must be triune? We will examine this in light of scripture. They also further conclude that they are all co-equal. This too we will examine in light of Qodesh Scripture.
Scripturally, it is certain that Father Yahuweh is Supreme and Above all things. But all things, all power and authority have been given to Yahushua. Father Yahuweh is the giver of all life, the source of all things. From HIM all things flow. All life, all love, all Ruwakh/Spirit. It is written
Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Yisrael: YAHUWEH is our Alaha/haElohim, YAHUWEH is one [as you can see, it did not say that He is three in one]:
I believe in this Scripture, Yahuweh is definitely ONE. What is the meaning of "One" in this verse? In Hebrew, it is the word "Echad". I believe that Yahushua also used "Echad" in His prayer:
John 17:20 - Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 - I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Can we be one as Yahuweh and Yahushua are one? Can we be one with them? Yes. Does this mean we are all co-equal? No. Father Yahuweh is Above all. This verse alone wipes out the trinity concept. It is not one as in a 'number', but one in unity of thought and will and purpose. When our way is Yahuweh's way...we are one with Him. Does this mean that we are equal to Him? Not even close. So we establish firmly oneness does not have to mean equality and it does not have to mean one as in a number. There is no disunity within Him. There are no disagreements between Yahushua and Yahuweh. They are one in purpose and in thought. And we can share that oneness with them, HalleluYahuweh!
Now the very essence of the word "Father" is one that describes a giver of life. Yahushua referred to Father Yahuweh as such as do we. One should not ascribe the title "Abba/Father" to one who hasn't created them. The very fact that Yahushua calls Him "Father" shows that His Father is His "Creator."
Proverbs 30:4 - Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Here is an example of the Son being mentioned even in the Tanakh or Old Testament. Yahushua said:
John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true Alaha/alElohim, and Yahushua the alMessiYah, whom thou hast sent. Yahushua called Him the only true Alaha/alElohim.
Some might say that this was Yahushua speaking before He was glorified and He is only speaking from His earthly state. This is human reasoning, not found in Scripture. The Trinitarians especially like to say that Yahushua didn't really mean this as an eternal concept. But what Yahuweh says thru Yahushua endures forever. They say that it was just for that time when He was on earth. We need to be on the lookout for excuses to excuse away Scripture! What did Yahushua call His Abba/Father AFTER His resurrection and ascension? His co-equal? "[Can you give the Scripture/s in replying to this disussion please?]"
Revelations 3:12 - "He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My Alaha/alElohim, and he shall go out no more. And I will write on him the name of My Alaha/alElohim and the name of the city of My Alaha/alElohim, the New Yahrushalayim, which comes down out of heaven from My Alaha/alElohim. And I will write on him My new name [Yahutzadiq].
No, Father Yahuweh is 4 times STILL His Alaha. Therefore it has not changed, Father Yahuweh is still the Alaha of Yahushua and therefore greater than He, just as Yahushua said.
John 14:28 - Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
What has changed is that Yahuweh exalted Yahushua above all. Yahushua said it so plain:
John 10:27 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
All things are given TO Yahushua by the Father and Yahuweh is greater than all. I do not take honor from Yahushua in saying this. Yahushua said it Himself!
Matthew 19:17 - And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, YAHUWEH: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the Commandments [Light=Torah, Instructions in Righteousness].
Even Yahushua had to recognize that any goodness He had...came from the Father. Therefore, I do not take honor from Yahushua in saying this. Yahushua is worthy of all praise, honor and yes.. "Worship". In this I will elaborate later but for now let's consider the position of Yahushua after all things are completed. After death is defeated and we are with Him. Will he be co-equal to the Father? Let's see:
1Corinthians 15:20 - But now is the alMessiYah risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 - For as in Adam all die, even so in the alMessiYah shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: the alMessiYah the firstfruits; afterward they that are the alMessiYah's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to YAHUWEH, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Who put all things under Yahushua? Who is this One who is "excepted"? Who is excepted? The Father is excepted, who is Greater than all. He is the One who put all things under Yahushua because He is Above all. Continuing..
1Corinthians 15:28 - And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that YAHUWEH may be all in all.
So Yahushua will be subject to Father Yahuweh in a future time..even as now. And this is the blessing of order.
1Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is the alMessiYah; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of the alMessiYah is YAHUWEH.
Very clear, is it not?
Now let's look into this matter of worship. Some dualists say that one should not worship Yahushua. They even say that if you do worship Yahushua, you are committing idolatry. Let's examine this in light of Scripture
Matthew 28:16 - Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Yahushua had appointed them. 17 And when they saw Him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
Yes, the disciples worshipped Yahushua. And Yahushua accepted such and did not forbid them. Why? Let's look at what He said.
Matthew 28:18 - And Yahushua came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
All power is GIVEN to Yahushua in heaven and earth, HalleluYahuweh! Yahushua is WORTHY for He overcame the world and in Him there is LIFE and Salvation!
Now it is not unusual for one to worship somebody who represents the kingdom of Yahuweh. Men worshipped David. It is true, Scripture says that men worshipped David and David said nothing. David was the anointed of Yahuweh. The word anointed is "Mashiyakh" or Messiah. Now David was Not Yahuweh but he represented Yahuweh's kingdom of Yisrael.
2Samuel 14:4 - And when the woman of Tekoah spake to the king, she fell on her face to the ground, and did obeisance, and said, Help, O king. 5 - And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, I am indeed a widow woman, and mine husband is dead.
Here, the word used for obeisance is also translated 'Worship' 99 other times in Scripture. Even in Exodus 20 in the Ten Commandments we find this same original Hebrew word used.
Consider also:
Revelations 3:9 - "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Yisraelites and are not, but lie--indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Consider also the psalm:
Psalms 45:6 - Thy throne, O Elohim, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
This is a psalm speaking of Yahushua the alMessiYah. It is quoted as such in the book of Hebrews:
Hebrews 1:8 - But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O Elohim, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.
Notice that the Son is called "Elohim" here. Continuing..
Psalms 45:7 - Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore Elohim, thy Elohim, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Here again, Yahushua's Elohim is none other than Father Yahweh. The verse clarifies which Elohim. HIS (Yahushua's/True Messager of Yahuweh's Face) Elohim..the Father. This is consistent with the verses we examined previously where Yahushua calls the Father His Alaha/alElohim.
Psalms 45:8 - All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
Now this is an allegory of Yahushua and His assembly much like Song of Solomon. Let's continue to read this, Psalms 45:9 - Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. 10 Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; 11 So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Master; and worship thou him.
This shows why we worship Yahushua, He is our Master and represents Yahuweh and His kingdom.
None of this means that we worship a Trinity. There are a few verses...that many would try to show to support the Trinity doctrine. Many of these Scriptures happen to name 3 things in one sentence such as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They are used extensively by "Trinity Believers". But those Scriptures that name 3 things (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) do not prove what the position or role of the Father, Son or Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit is. It does not make them co-equal. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were mentioned many times in the Law and Prophets/Tanakh. Are they triune also? Peter, James and John are three names often used together in the Messianic Scriptures/NT, but this does not make them 3 in 1.
Let's look at one Scripture in particular..
Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit:
Many would say this proves the Trinity but most of them have no idea what this verse means. Consider how the disciples understood it in the book of Acts:
Acts 2:38 - Then Kepha/Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yahushua the alMessiYah for the forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of Ruwakh haQodesh/the Holy Spirit.
For baptism do we have 2 conflicting Scriptures? The first Scripture said we should baptize in the name of Father, Son and Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit. The second said showed that they baptized in the Son's name only. Christian scholars have argued for centuries over this but this is where those who know the true name of the Son become enlightened with a wonderful truth.
Yahushua means "YAHUweh is Salvation". Within the name of the Son we have also the name of the Father "Yah" or "Yahu". This lines up with what Yahushua said here:
John 5:43 - I am come in my Father's name [Yahuweh], and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name [Zeus], him ye will receive. We must understand the charaters of these name to see if we are following that charater of these names.
Both literally and spiritually He knew that He came in His Father's name. Therefore within the name of the Son, we also have the name of the Father. Now what about the name of Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit?
John 14:26 - But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The Holy Spirit comes in the name of Yahushua. So if we baptize in the name of Yahushua we have within His name the name of the Father, Son and Ruwakh haQodesh. Therefore Yahushua is rightly the name for baptism. The disciples understood what He meant in Mat 28:19 and shortly after in Acts 2:38 baptized in Yahushua's name So He certainly didn't mean Trinity.
Now let's look at Philippians:
Philippians 2:1 - If there be therefore any consolation in the alMessiYah, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Ruwakh, if any bowels and mercies, 2 - Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. 3 - Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
In lowliness of mind. Like whom?
Philippians 2:4 - Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5 - Let this mind be in you, which was also in the alMessiYah Yahushua: 6 - Who, being in the form of Alaha, thought it not robbery to be equal with ABBA ALAHA ALHAYAH YAHUWEH EL ELOH:
Now here is a clear example of the King James Version bias for the trinity. Are we to have the mind that it isn't robbery to be equal with Father Yahuweh? After examining the original language it is very clear that verse 6 is a mistranslation. The NIV (amazingly) clears up the text:
Phil 2:6 (NIV) Who, being in very nature Alaha, did not consider equality with Alaha something to be grasped,
It means just the opposite! Look it up for yourself. Other translations such as the American Standard, New American Standard, Revised Standard and others agree. Yahushua did not think that equality with Yahuweh was something even to be grasped. The context screams out this correct translation with phrases like 'The form of a servant" "Made Himself of no reputation" "Let this mind be in you," etc.
Continuing:
Philippians 2:7 - But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 - And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. May I state that if Yahushua was Alaha, then why would He have to become obedient...?
Very clear when translated rightly.
Continuing..
Philippians 2:9 - Wherefore YAHUWEH also hath highly exalted him, and given Him a name which is Above every name [gave Yahushua His Name]:
Who is greater, one who has the authority to exalt or the one being exalted?
Philippians 2:10 - That at the name of Yahushua every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 - And that every tongue should confess that Yahushua the alMessiYah is Master, to the glory of YAHUWEH the Father.
If I read verse 11 correctly... If we lift up Yahushua, We are lifting up the Father...if we praise Yahushua , we are praising the Father..it is all to the glory of Yahuweh the Father!
Matthew 28:18 - And Yahushua came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth.
All things GIVEN to Him! By whom? Who could be Greater? Father Yahuweh, the source of all life and love and Ruwakh/Spirit.
Here is another misunderstood verse:
John 5:14 - Afterward Yahushua findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. 15 - The man departed, and told the Yisraelites that it was Yahushua, which had made him whole. 16 - And therefore did the Yisraelites persecute Yahushua, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. 17 - But Yahushua answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. 18 - Therefore the Yisraelites sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that Alaha/alElohim was his Father, making himself equal with Alaha.
Now here we have 2 accusations:
1. He broke the Sabbath
2. He was making himself equal with Alaha/alElohim
Neither were true. Yahushua did not break the Sabbath. We know that, or He would have sinned and He would have not been the lamb without blemish. Therefore, these were accusations from the false leaders and not statements of doctrine [as some would claim].
John 10:31 - Then the Yisraelites took up stones again to stone Him. 32 - Yahushua answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone Me? 33 - The Yisraelites answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself Alaha/alElohim.
Here is the accusation again. Here would have been the opportunity for Yahushua to show them if He was Elohim in the sense of a deity. But rather, Yahushua downplays the greatness of such a title:
John 10:34 - Yahushua answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are elohim?
Is Yahushua not downplaying the greatness of being called "Elohim" just as I am in this study? It is truth that this word Elohim is used in reference to Malaks/Angels, judges, men and yes, Yahushua also. This is what Yahushua pointed out to them and it is what I point out to others. But this word is never used in sense of the "the source of all things, the giver of all life" to any other thing but Father Alaha alHayah Yahuweh El Eloh Himself. Yahushua defended this claim with the Scripture that refers to men as also "elohim'. This shows that they had a false concept of what "Elohim" means, just as do leaders of today. Yahushua clearly defended this claim with the Scripture that refers to men as also "elohim'.
John 10:35 - If he called them elohim, unto whom the word of YAHUWEH came, and the Scripture cannot be broken; 36 - Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of Alaha/alElohim? 37 - If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 - But if I do, though ye believe not Me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in Me, and I in him.
The source of all life, Father YAHUWEH...is IN Him. But He ISN'T equal to Him. Yet, He IS worthy of praise and worship because He represents Yahuweh and His power and all honor we give Him, we are giving to Yahuweh.
John 8:13 - The Pharisees therefore said unto Him, Thou bearest record of Thyself; thy record is not true. 14 - Yahushua answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of Myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. 15 - Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. 16 - And yet if I judge, My judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent Me. 17 - It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 - I am one that bear witness of Myself, and the Father that sent Me beareth witness of Me.
So two bear witness. Now I ask, where is the Ruwakh haQodesh in all of this?
John 8:19 - Then said they unto Him, Where is Thy Father? Yahushua answered, Ye neither know Me, nor My Father: if ye had known Me, ye should have known My Father also.
Isn't that the third witness, if the trinity is truth? Ruwakh haQodesh/The Holy Spirit is simply the Ruwakh/Spirit of Yahuweh. It is His Ruwakh/Spirit. The Ruwakh/Spirit proceeds from Yahuweh the Father.
John 15:26 - But when the Comforter/Ruwakh haQodesh is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Ruwakh/Spirit of Truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
The Ruwakh haQodesh is that Ruwakh/Spirit that proceeds from the Father, no wonder it is Qodesh/Holy!
John 8:42 - Yahushua said unto them, If Alaha were your Father, ye would love Me: for I proceeded forth and came from Alaha; neither came I of Myself, but he sent Me.
See, Yahushua also comes from the Father. I think there is a pattern here? That ALL Things come from the Father!
1Corinthians 8:5 - For though there be that are called mighty ones/elohims/allahs, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be mighty ones many, and masters many,) 6 - But to us there is but one Alaha, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Master Yahushua the alMessiYah, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Is there not a distinction here in the position of the Father compared to who the Son is? The Father is the source of all things and He does all things through Yahushua the alMessiYah by His Ruwakh/Spirit. There is one Alaha and one Master and I don't see a separate Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit here! It is Yahuweh's Ruwakh. For the Father is like the "generator", the Ruwakh haQodesh is like the "Electricity" and the Son is the wires, the Way to The Father.
And we? We are the light of the world. May Yahuweh's Ruwakh dwell in us to reveal to us His ways and His Truth.
There is one thing I would like to say to those who believe in the Trinity. If Yahushua/Jesus is Alaha, then what does that make you being that you are apart of His body and are one with Him. Why do you need to be healed, comforted, corrected and in need of others, being that you are now Alaha alHayah Yahuweh El Eloh...? Are you not One with this Trinity, being that you are now the same, "GOD!"
Shalom Aleichem
"Zaquaine/Elder" Mufasa Abda Kalil Tzadiq
In this study we will discuss what the Qodesh Scriptures have to say about the true nature of the Abba/Father, alHayah Yahuweh. And His Son, the alMessiYah and our Savior & Redeemer, Yahushua haMashiyakh with Yah's indwelling Ruwakh haQodesh.
Some want to tell us that we worship a trinity. When going furthur into this subject with one who believes a trinity, they often like to explain away the contradictions with saying:
"It's just one of the great mysteries of the faith"
A mystery indeed, it has never made any sense to me. 3 is 1 yet 1 is all three yet all 3 are 1 and 1 is all 3?
Most of the basis of it is concerning the use of the title "Elohim", translated "God". The word "Elohim" is the most overused word in trying to prove the Trinity. Or perhaps the common english translation "God". I came to understand that this word "Elohim" does have other uses than 'deity'. It can also mean a "judge" or a "ruler". This is also true of the word 'Theos' in greek. In fact, one of the translations translated "theos" as 'ruler'. Their high trust in this word can be refuted if you understand that haElohim is a title that describes Yahuweh just as the word "King" or "Master" describes Yahuweh. It is not really a crown of some sort, as many in Christianinty would say. It is not such a proprietary thing to be called "haElohim". It is true that there is only one Alaha/haElohim. Just as there is really only one Master. But this word is also used to describe man...
Psalms 29:1 - Give unto YAHUWEH, O ye mighty, give unto YAHUWEH glory and strength.
"Mighty" is "El" in Hebrew (which is the singular form of Alaha/haElohim). There is also one that Yahushua pointed out.. as we will get into later. The word is also used to describe men, malak/angels and yes, Yahushua also. Yahushua is very worthy of this title "Elohim" but the common reasoning is:
The Father is "Alaha/haElohim/God"
The Son is "Alaha/haElohim/God
The Holy Spirit is "Alaha/haElohim/God"
Thus they must be triune? We will examine this in light of scripture. They also further conclude that they are all co-equal. This too we will examine in light of Qodesh Scripture.
Scripturally, it is certain that Father Yahuweh is Supreme and Above all things. But all things, all power and authority have been given to Yahushua. Father Yahuweh is the giver of all life, the source of all things. From HIM all things flow. All life, all love, all Ruwakh/Spirit. It is written
Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Yisrael: YAHUWEH is our Alaha/haElohim, YAHUWEH is one [as you can see, it did not say that He is three in one]:
I believe in this Scripture, Yahuweh is definitely ONE. What is the meaning of "One" in this verse? In Hebrew, it is the word "Echad". I believe that Yahushua also used "Echad" in His prayer:
John 17:20 - Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 - I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Can we be one as Yahuweh and Yahushua are one? Can we be one with them? Yes. Does this mean we are all co-equal? No. Father Yahuweh is Above all. This verse alone wipes out the trinity concept. It is not one as in a 'number', but one in unity of thought and will and purpose. When our way is Yahuweh's way...we are one with Him. Does this mean that we are equal to Him? Not even close. So we establish firmly oneness does not have to mean equality and it does not have to mean one as in a number. There is no disunity within Him. There are no disagreements between Yahushua and Yahuweh. They are one in purpose and in thought. And we can share that oneness with them, HalleluYahuweh!
Now the very essence of the word "Father" is one that describes a giver of life. Yahushua referred to Father Yahuweh as such as do we. One should not ascribe the title "Abba/Father" to one who hasn't created them. The very fact that Yahushua calls Him "Father" shows that His Father is His "Creator."
Proverbs 30:4 - Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
Here is an example of the Son being mentioned even in the Tanakh or Old Testament. Yahushua said:
John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true Alaha/alElohim, and Yahushua the alMessiYah, whom thou hast sent. Yahushua called Him the only true Alaha/alElohim.
Some might say that this was Yahushua speaking before He was glorified and He is only speaking from His earthly state. This is human reasoning, not found in Scripture. The Trinitarians especially like to say that Yahushua didn't really mean this as an eternal concept. But what Yahuweh says thru Yahushua endures forever. They say that it was just for that time when He was on earth. We need to be on the lookout for excuses to excuse away Scripture! What did Yahushua call His Abba/Father AFTER His resurrection and ascension? His co-equal? "[Can you give the Scripture/s in replying to this disussion please?]"
Revelations 3:12 - "He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My Alaha/alElohim, and he shall go out no more. And I will write on him the name of My Alaha/alElohim and the name of the city of My Alaha/alElohim, the New Yahrushalayim, which comes down out of heaven from My Alaha/alElohim. And I will write on him My new name [Yahutzadiq].
No, Father Yahuweh is 4 times STILL His Alaha. Therefore it has not changed, Father Yahuweh is still the Alaha of Yahushua and therefore greater than He, just as Yahushua said.
John 14:28 - Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
What has changed is that Yahuweh exalted Yahushua above all. Yahushua said it so plain:
John 10:27 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
All things are given TO Yahushua by the Father and Yahuweh is greater than all. I do not take honor from Yahushua in saying this. Yahushua said it Himself!
Matthew 19:17 - And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, YAHUWEH: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the Commandments [Light=Torah, Instructions in Righteousness].
Even Yahushua had to recognize that any goodness He had...came from the Father. Therefore, I do not take honor from Yahushua in saying this. Yahushua is worthy of all praise, honor and yes.. "Worship". In this I will elaborate later but for now let's consider the position of Yahushua after all things are completed. After death is defeated and we are with Him. Will he be co-equal to the Father? Let's see:
1Corinthians 15:20 - But now is the alMessiYah risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 - For as in Adam all die, even so in the alMessiYah shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: the alMessiYah the firstfruits; afterward they that are the alMessiYah's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to YAHUWEH, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Who put all things under Yahushua? Who is this One who is "excepted"? Who is excepted? The Father is excepted, who is Greater than all. He is the One who put all things under Yahushua because He is Above all. Continuing..
1Corinthians 15:28 - And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that YAHUWEH may be all in all.
So Yahushua will be subject to Father Yahuweh in a future time..even as now. And this is the blessing of order.
1Corinthians 11:3 - But I would have you know, that the head of every man is the alMessiYah; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of the alMessiYah is YAHUWEH.
Very clear, is it not?
Now let's look into this matter of worship. Some dualists say that one should not worship Yahushua. They even say that if you do worship Yahushua, you are committing idolatry. Let's examine this in light of Scripture
Matthew 28:16 - Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Yahushua had appointed them. 17 And when they saw Him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
Yes, the disciples worshipped Yahushua. And Yahushua accepted such and did not forbid them. Why? Let's look at what He said.
Matthew 28:18 - And Yahushua came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
All power is GIVEN to Yahushua in heaven and earth, HalleluYahuweh! Yahushua is WORTHY for He overcame the world and in Him there is LIFE and Salvation!
Now it is not unusual for one to worship somebody who represents the kingdom of Yahuweh. Men worshipped David. It is true, Scripture says that men worshipped David and David said nothing. David was the anointed of Yahuweh. The word anointed is "Mashiyakh" or Messiah. Now David was Not Yahuweh but he represented Yahuweh's kingdom of Yisrael.
2Samuel 14:4 - And when the woman of Tekoah spake to the king, she fell on her face to the ground, and did obeisance, and said, Help, O king. 5 - And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, I am indeed a widow woman, and mine husband is dead.
Here, the word used for obeisance is also translated 'Worship' 99 other times in Scripture. Even in Exodus 20 in the Ten Commandments we find this same original Hebrew word used.
Consider also:
Revelations 3:9 - "Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Yisraelites and are not, but lie--indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Consider also the psalm:
Psalms 45:6 - Thy throne, O Elohim, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
This is a psalm speaking of Yahushua the alMessiYah. It is quoted as such in the book of Hebrews:
Hebrews 1:8 - But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O Elohim, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.
Notice that the Son is called "Elohim" here. Continuing..
Psalms 45:7 - Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore Elohim, thy Elohim, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Here again, Yahushua's Elohim is none other than Father Yahweh. The verse clarifies which Elohim. HIS (Yahushua's/True Messager of Yahuweh's Face) Elohim..the Father. This is consistent with the verses we examined previously where Yahushua calls the Father His Alaha/alElohim.
Psalms 45:8 - All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
Now this is an allegory of Yahushua and His assembly much like Song of Solomon. Let's continue to read this, Psalms 45:9 - Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. 10 Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; 11 So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Master; and worship thou him.
This shows why we worship Yahushua, He is our Master and represents Yahuweh and His kingdom.
None of this means that we worship a Trinity. There are a few verses...that many would try to show to support the Trinity doctrine. Many of these Scriptures happen to name 3 things in one sentence such as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They are used extensively by "Trinity Believers". But those Scriptures that name 3 things (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) do not prove what the position or role of the Father, Son or Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit is. It does not make them co-equal. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were mentioned many times in the Law and Prophets/Tanakh. Are they triune also? Peter, James and John are three names often used together in the Messianic Scriptures/NT, but this does not make them 3 in 1.
Let's look at one Scripture in particular..
Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit:
Many would say this proves the Trinity but most of them have no idea what this verse means. Consider how the disciples understood it in the book of Acts:
Acts 2:38 - Then Kepha/Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Yahushua the alMessiYah for the forgiveness of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of Ruwakh haQodesh/the Holy Spirit.
For baptism do we have 2 conflicting Scriptures? The first Scripture said we should baptize in the name of Father, Son and Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit. The second said showed that they baptized in the Son's name only. Christian scholars have argued for centuries over this but this is where those who know the true name of the Son become enlightened with a wonderful truth.
Yahushua means "YAHUweh is Salvation". Within the name of the Son we have also the name of the Father "Yah" or "Yahu". This lines up with what Yahushua said here:
John 5:43 - I am come in my Father's name [Yahuweh], and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name [Zeus], him ye will receive. We must understand the charaters of these name to see if we are following that charater of these names.
Both literally and spiritually He knew that He came in His Father's name. Therefore within the name of the Son, we also have the name of the Father. Now what about the name of Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit?
John 14:26 - But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The Holy Spirit comes in the name of Yahushua. So if we baptize in the name of Yahushua we have within His name the name of the Father, Son and Ruwakh haQodesh. Therefore Yahushua is rightly the name for baptism. The disciples understood what He meant in Mat 28:19 and shortly after in Acts 2:38 baptized in Yahushua's name So He certainly didn't mean Trinity.
Now let's look at Philippians:
Philippians 2:1 - If there be therefore any consolation in the alMessiYah, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Ruwakh, if any bowels and mercies, 2 - Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind. 3 - Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
In lowliness of mind. Like whom?
Philippians 2:4 - Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5 - Let this mind be in you, which was also in the alMessiYah Yahushua: 6 - Who, being in the form of Alaha, thought it not robbery to be equal with ABBA ALAHA ALHAYAH YAHUWEH EL ELOH:
Now here is a clear example of the King James Version bias for the trinity. Are we to have the mind that it isn't robbery to be equal with Father Yahuweh? After examining the original language it is very clear that verse 6 is a mistranslation. The NIV (amazingly) clears up the text:
Phil 2:6 (NIV) Who, being in very nature Alaha, did not consider equality with Alaha something to be grasped,
It means just the opposite! Look it up for yourself. Other translations such as the American Standard, New American Standard, Revised Standard and others agree. Yahushua did not think that equality with Yahuweh was something even to be grasped. The context screams out this correct translation with phrases like 'The form of a servant" "Made Himself of no reputation" "Let this mind be in you," etc.
Continuing:
Philippians 2:7 - But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 - And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. May I state that if Yahushua was Alaha, then why would He have to become obedient...?
Very clear when translated rightly.
Continuing..
Philippians 2:9 - Wherefore YAHUWEH also hath highly exalted him, and given Him a name which is Above every name [gave Yahushua His Name]:
Who is greater, one who has the authority to exalt or the one being exalted?
Philippians 2:10 - That at the name of Yahushua every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 - And that every tongue should confess that Yahushua the alMessiYah is Master, to the glory of YAHUWEH the Father.
If I read verse 11 correctly... If we lift up Yahushua, We are lifting up the Father...if we praise Yahushua , we are praising the Father..it is all to the glory of Yahuweh the Father!
Matthew 28:18 - And Yahushua came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth.
All things GIVEN to Him! By whom? Who could be Greater? Father Yahuweh, the source of all life and love and Ruwakh/Spirit.
Here is another misunderstood verse:
John 5:14 - Afterward Yahushua findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. 15 - The man departed, and told the Yisraelites that it was Yahushua, which had made him whole. 16 - And therefore did the Yisraelites persecute Yahushua, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. 17 - But Yahushua answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. 18 - Therefore the Yisraelites sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that Alaha/alElohim was his Father, making himself equal with Alaha.
Now here we have 2 accusations:
1. He broke the Sabbath
2. He was making himself equal with Alaha/alElohim
Neither were true. Yahushua did not break the Sabbath. We know that, or He would have sinned and He would have not been the lamb without blemish. Therefore, these were accusations from the false leaders and not statements of doctrine [as some would claim].
John 10:31 - Then the Yisraelites took up stones again to stone Him. 32 - Yahushua answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone Me? 33 - The Yisraelites answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself Alaha/alElohim.
Here is the accusation again. Here would have been the opportunity for Yahushua to show them if He was Elohim in the sense of a deity. But rather, Yahushua downplays the greatness of such a title:
John 10:34 - Yahushua answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are elohim?
Is Yahushua not downplaying the greatness of being called "Elohim" just as I am in this study? It is truth that this word Elohim is used in reference to Malaks/Angels, judges, men and yes, Yahushua also. This is what Yahushua pointed out to them and it is what I point out to others. But this word is never used in sense of the "the source of all things, the giver of all life" to any other thing but Father Alaha alHayah Yahuweh El Eloh Himself. Yahushua defended this claim with the Scripture that refers to men as also "elohim'. This shows that they had a false concept of what "Elohim" means, just as do leaders of today. Yahushua clearly defended this claim with the Scripture that refers to men as also "elohim'.
John 10:35 - If he called them elohim, unto whom the word of YAHUWEH came, and the Scripture cannot be broken; 36 - Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of Alaha/alElohim? 37 - If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 - But if I do, though ye believe not Me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in Me, and I in him.
The source of all life, Father YAHUWEH...is IN Him. But He ISN'T equal to Him. Yet, He IS worthy of praise and worship because He represents Yahuweh and His power and all honor we give Him, we are giving to Yahuweh.
John 8:13 - The Pharisees therefore said unto Him, Thou bearest record of Thyself; thy record is not true. 14 - Yahushua answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of Myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. 15 - Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. 16 - And yet if I judge, My judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent Me. 17 - It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 - I am one that bear witness of Myself, and the Father that sent Me beareth witness of Me.
So two bear witness. Now I ask, where is the Ruwakh haQodesh in all of this?
John 8:19 - Then said they unto Him, Where is Thy Father? Yahushua answered, Ye neither know Me, nor My Father: if ye had known Me, ye should have known My Father also.
Isn't that the third witness, if the trinity is truth? Ruwakh haQodesh/The Holy Spirit is simply the Ruwakh/Spirit of Yahuweh. It is His Ruwakh/Spirit. The Ruwakh/Spirit proceeds from Yahuweh the Father.
John 15:26 - But when the Comforter/Ruwakh haQodesh is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Ruwakh/Spirit of Truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
The Ruwakh haQodesh is that Ruwakh/Spirit that proceeds from the Father, no wonder it is Qodesh/Holy!
John 8:42 - Yahushua said unto them, If Alaha were your Father, ye would love Me: for I proceeded forth and came from Alaha; neither came I of Myself, but he sent Me.
See, Yahushua also comes from the Father. I think there is a pattern here? That ALL Things come from the Father!
1Corinthians 8:5 - For though there be that are called mighty ones/elohims/allahs, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be mighty ones many, and masters many,) 6 - But to us there is but one Alaha, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Master Yahushua the alMessiYah, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Is there not a distinction here in the position of the Father compared to who the Son is? The Father is the source of all things and He does all things through Yahushua the alMessiYah by His Ruwakh/Spirit. There is one Alaha and one Master and I don't see a separate Ruwakh haQodesh/Holy Spirit here! It is Yahuweh's Ruwakh. For the Father is like the "generator", the Ruwakh haQodesh is like the "Electricity" and the Son is the wires, the Way to The Father.
And we? We are the light of the world. May Yahuweh's Ruwakh dwell in us to reveal to us His ways and His Truth.
There is one thing I would like to say to those who believe in the Trinity. If Yahushua/Jesus is Alaha, then what does that make you being that you are apart of His body and are one with Him. Why do you need to be healed, comforted, corrected and in need of others, being that you are now Alaha alHayah Yahuweh El Eloh...? Are you not One with this Trinity, being that you are now the same, "GOD!"
Shalom Aleichem
"Zaquaine/Elder" Mufasa Abda Kalil Tzadiq
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