A Call For The Removal Of IMMODEST Pictures From BPN
To All the Female Membership Of BPN
I just read a conversation on a personal page, between a Pastor and a female member of BPN. The Pastor had respectfully complained to the young lady about her photos being "provocative." She retorted that the did not think that her photos were provocative and criticized him of judging her... When I went through her photos, she truly was a very attractive your woman, but yes, on one photo, the tops of both of her breasts were bare and busting out above her blouse... This lady obviously is dressing immodeslty. She needs to apologize to that pastor.
It is possible that this young lady dresses immodestly when she attends her church, with no one correcting her, so she assumes that her immodest style of dressing is ok. There should be the older women at her church or the pastor's wife, who should be teaching these younger women about modesty according to, Titus 2: 4 - 5.
I am therefore, as an older women admonishing the younger women here on BPN who are guilty to inspect and correct their immodest manner of dressing. At least cover up your breasts' cleavage, pull your dress down when you are sitting, so that your bare thighs are not showing, remove pictures where you are obviously trying to show your butt or boobs. If you are not sure, ask another older lady, or pastor in this group.
To those who think it is unreasonable to ask them to change their manner of dress, I direct you to another scripture and present the principal that the Apostle Paul established in the following verse:
Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak
We as women should apply this same care for our Christian (and non Christian) brothers by NOT dressing in a revealing/suggestive manner which causes them to stumble/think lustful thoughts. We are our brothers' keepers..
I wish I could say that I have only seen one woman dressing provocatively. Unfortunately there are others. I should have written about this earlier, but I assumed that someone else, would or had written, but searching through the archives, I found nothing. Therefore, I am doing so now. Now those of you who have wanted to complain to someone, go to that woman whose pictures are immodest and offensive and direct them to this blog.
Now from another man's perspective, I am posting this letter from another blog explaining how their minds and bodies are affected when they see a woman dressing immodesty:
A letter from Christian Guys....
Girls, could we talk to you right out of our hearts for a few minutes?
It is awkward for us to talk about something of this nature, in person, so we thought we would write our feelings.We are young men who have been saved and baptized in the Holy Spirit. We desperately want to live for Christ and not follow the ways of the world. Since we have been baptized (immersed) in a "Holy" Spirit, we feel in our hearts that we should live "holy" lives. After all, our bodies are the temple, the sanctuary, the place where the "Holy" Spirit lives and makes His home.
We know that guys and girls are affected differently, so since we desperately want to follow hard after God, could we kindly and respectfully ask you to help us with a few things? We realize that girls are primarily stimulated or turned on by "touch." Did you know that guys are turned on by "sight?" So when you are
"aroused" (sexually awakened) by a guy's "touch," we are in the same way aroused by mere "sight." Let us explain. When we see girls who are dressed in a suggestive, revealing, provocative, teasing, tantalizing
manner, our sexual desires are aroused. Our bodies are then affected. To be absolutely candid, let us give you some examples of what we are referring to. If you are wearing a blouse that barely meets the waist
of your slacks and some of your skin shows while you are moving around, or simply while you are walking, sitting, or kneeling, our minds are geared to wonder what more of your body would look like further
up....This causes our bodies to respond biologically, and suddenl we are fighting a war in our minds and bodies. And that war of lust is continuing often long, even hours, after you are gone. We hate this,
because our "righteous man" wants to think pure thoughts....
When you wear low-cut tops which are in any degree revealing, or when you bend over, and they are revealing, this again causes us big problems in the flesh. Or if the back is out of your top, we
automatically think that you do not have the undergarment on, and the Spirit and the flesh begin to fight again. Or when we see any glimpse of your undergarments, such as straps and the like, we have trouble.
What we are trying to say is this: If it is not for sale, don't advertise it. We really feel that the still small voice of the Holy Spirit speaks to you and nudges you when it is too tight, too short, too low, or too revealing. Will you listen to that voice? For the Scripture says, "Quench not the Spirit." (1 Thess. 5:19)
Girls, do you know what we would really like? We would like to come among our Christian sisters and not have to fight and struggle in the flesh. We do not need to have to wrestle in the flesh at church or at
church activities. We men, whether young, old, single or married, are faced with this every day among girls of the "world." But we would like to have rest in our Spirit man when we come among Christian girls.
After all, doesn't the Scripture tell us to "come out from among the world and be you separate, saith the Lord." (2 Cor. 6:17) It also tells us that "all that is in the world, the lust of the eye, and the lust of
the flesh, is not of the Father, but is of the world." (1 John 2:15) We are the church, not the world.
We know that people often use the verse, "Man looketh on the outward appearance, but God looketh on the heart," (1 Sam. 16:7) to condone anything they wish to wear. This is one of the most misused/used
out-of-context verses in the Bible. Conversely, the fact is, if your heart is pure, your outward appearance will be modest....Girls can be fashionable and modest at the same time. To be honest, we respect you more when your appearance is modest, as the Scripture commands in 1 Timothy 2:9. We really do not want the kind of girl who dresses provocatively, for we know that if we marry her, she will still be that way in the presence of other men once we are married.
We know that we have Christian responsibilites toward girls, too. We must be careful to portray ourselves properly. We must treat you like ladies. If we are really committed Christian guys, we will strive to treat you like Jesus would. After all, you are daughters of God.
Thank you, dear Christian sisters, for hearing our hearts on this subject. Once we have conveyed the truth of the matter to you, you become responsible before God for what you do with the truth. We really are "our brother's keeper." (Genesis 4:9.) We know that there is a "cult of conformity" in our generation, but we as Christians "march to the beat of a different drummer." Please, girls, do not say, "I don't care," but help us in these last days to live as close to Jesus as we can. Thank you so much.
Sincerely,
Committed Christian Guys" .
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To the other ladies, and men in ministry, I hope I can hear from you also on this subject
I just read a conversation on a personal page, between a Pastor and a female member of BPN. The Pastor had respectfully complained to the young lady about her photos being "provocative." She retorted that the did not think that her photos were provocative and criticized him of judging her... When I went through her photos, she truly was a very attractive your woman, but yes, on one photo, the tops of both of her breasts were bare and busting out above her blouse... This lady obviously is dressing immodeslty. She needs to apologize to that pastor.
It is possible that this young lady dresses immodestly when she attends her church, with no one correcting her, so she assumes that her immodest style of dressing is ok. There should be the older women at her church or the pastor's wife, who should be teaching these younger women about modesty according to, Titus 2: 4 - 5.
I am therefore, as an older women admonishing the younger women here on BPN who are guilty to inspect and correct their immodest manner of dressing. At least cover up your breasts' cleavage, pull your dress down when you are sitting, so that your bare thighs are not showing, remove pictures where you are obviously trying to show your butt or boobs. If you are not sure, ask another older lady, or pastor in this group.
To those who think it is unreasonable to ask them to change their manner of dress, I direct you to another scripture and present the principal that the Apostle Paul established in the following verse:
Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak
We as women should apply this same care for our Christian (and non Christian) brothers by NOT dressing in a revealing/suggestive manner which causes them to stumble/think lustful thoughts. We are our brothers' keepers..
I wish I could say that I have only seen one woman dressing provocatively. Unfortunately there are others. I should have written about this earlier, but I assumed that someone else, would or had written, but searching through the archives, I found nothing. Therefore, I am doing so now. Now those of you who have wanted to complain to someone, go to that woman whose pictures are immodest and offensive and direct them to this blog.
Now from another man's perspective, I am posting this letter from another blog explaining how their minds and bodies are affected when they see a woman dressing immodesty:
A letter from Christian Guys....
Girls, could we talk to you right out of our hearts for a few minutes?
It is awkward for us to talk about something of this nature, in person, so we thought we would write our feelings.We are young men who have been saved and baptized in the Holy Spirit. We desperately want to live for Christ and not follow the ways of the world. Since we have been baptized (immersed) in a "Holy" Spirit, we feel in our hearts that we should live "holy" lives. After all, our bodies are the temple, the sanctuary, the place where the "Holy" Spirit lives and makes His home.
We know that guys and girls are affected differently, so since we desperately want to follow hard after God, could we kindly and respectfully ask you to help us with a few things? We realize that girls are primarily stimulated or turned on by "touch." Did you know that guys are turned on by "sight?" So when you are
"aroused" (sexually awakened) by a guy's "touch," we are in the same way aroused by mere "sight." Let us explain. When we see girls who are dressed in a suggestive, revealing, provocative, teasing, tantalizing
manner, our sexual desires are aroused. Our bodies are then affected. To be absolutely candid, let us give you some examples of what we are referring to. If you are wearing a blouse that barely meets the waist
of your slacks and some of your skin shows while you are moving around, or simply while you are walking, sitting, or kneeling, our minds are geared to wonder what more of your body would look like further
up....This causes our bodies to respond biologically, and suddenl we are fighting a war in our minds and bodies. And that war of lust is continuing often long, even hours, after you are gone. We hate this,
because our "righteous man" wants to think pure thoughts....
When you wear low-cut tops which are in any degree revealing, or when you bend over, and they are revealing, this again causes us big problems in the flesh. Or if the back is out of your top, we
automatically think that you do not have the undergarment on, and the Spirit and the flesh begin to fight again. Or when we see any glimpse of your undergarments, such as straps and the like, we have trouble.
What we are trying to say is this: If it is not for sale, don't advertise it. We really feel that the still small voice of the Holy Spirit speaks to you and nudges you when it is too tight, too short, too low, or too revealing. Will you listen to that voice? For the Scripture says, "Quench not the Spirit." (1 Thess. 5:19)
Girls, do you know what we would really like? We would like to come among our Christian sisters and not have to fight and struggle in the flesh. We do not need to have to wrestle in the flesh at church or at
church activities. We men, whether young, old, single or married, are faced with this every day among girls of the "world." But we would like to have rest in our Spirit man when we come among Christian girls.
After all, doesn't the Scripture tell us to "come out from among the world and be you separate, saith the Lord." (2 Cor. 6:17) It also tells us that "all that is in the world, the lust of the eye, and the lust of
the flesh, is not of the Father, but is of the world." (1 John 2:15) We are the church, not the world.
We know that people often use the verse, "Man looketh on the outward appearance, but God looketh on the heart," (1 Sam. 16:7) to condone anything they wish to wear. This is one of the most misused/used
out-of-context verses in the Bible. Conversely, the fact is, if your heart is pure, your outward appearance will be modest....Girls can be fashionable and modest at the same time. To be honest, we respect you more when your appearance is modest, as the Scripture commands in 1 Timothy 2:9. We really do not want the kind of girl who dresses provocatively, for we know that if we marry her, she will still be that way in the presence of other men once we are married.
We know that we have Christian responsibilites toward girls, too. We must be careful to portray ourselves properly. We must treat you like ladies. If we are really committed Christian guys, we will strive to treat you like Jesus would. After all, you are daughters of God.
Thank you, dear Christian sisters, for hearing our hearts on this subject. Once we have conveyed the truth of the matter to you, you become responsible before God for what you do with the truth. We really are "our brother's keeper." (Genesis 4:9.) We know that there is a "cult of conformity" in our generation, but we as Christians "march to the beat of a different drummer." Please, girls, do not say, "I don't care," but help us in these last days to live as close to Jesus as we can. Thank you so much.
Sincerely,
Committed Christian Guys" .
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To the other ladies, and men in ministry, I hope I can hear from you also on this subject
Comment
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Comment by T.L. Hawkins on February 19, 2009 at 9:22am
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All I can do is say AMEN! We as women of God should carry ourselves accordingly at ALL times (even in taking photos!!). This site is not for dating purposes, therefore, temptation should not be purposely displayed here. PERIOD...plain and simple. If women, young and old, are dressing this way while attending church, YES, someone needs to let them know about it. e have sat quietly FAR TOO LONG, pleasing man. It's not about man, it's about the KINGDOM!
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Comment by GOD'S APOSTOLIC AMBASSADORS on February 18, 2009 at 2:42pm
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Prophet Lady Elect Israel Gardner. I am in total agreement my sisters & brothers in Christ with the immodest dress code apparel. As a woman of God, a fashion designer, and business owner,and more so a wife. I find it very important and mandatory, that we dress to Glorify God. Yes, the older women must teach the younger women. Many may not be re-generated in thier minds, delivered or circumcised in their hearts, but it is the churhc's responsibility to assist these young women or girls. Leaders & women that are saved for many years should know better. By now there should have been some deliverance. I am aslo not pleased when I see female leaders & PASTORS, dressing with too short dresses, or skirts, cleavage showing, fabric too clingy, of splits too high.If too much flesh, or over weight, slim or heavy, you should know what is befitting for your body. Chose carefully and wisely. As a business buyer of fashion, I know the wholesalers. I do admit the stores sell clothing catering mostly to the world, but they do it becasuse it is a set-up to & they know many of us christian women are gullible and fall just for anything. The media is ready to plot and scheme against the church. The Bible says, "How shall the heathens know that I am God, when I have sanctified myself in you". They won't come to Christ right, except the church, lives and walk, and talks holy and sanctified. I have heard many say, "why should I serve your God, you are all hyprocrites, so if you do this, I can do it to.. God is calling for Holiness. ":Holienss without no man shall see the Lord,in this life or the life to come. A few years ago, a yuong girl join our church,while living & ministering in another state. She dressed inappropriately, jeans too tight, holes, from top to bottom, everything showing. Many criticised her. Yet I, as the Lady Elect & Pastor's wife, spoke privately to her and with compassion and wisdom as the Holy Spirit led me. All she knew was drugs, guys dressing like thugs, and a boyfriend, with 3 young children, struggling, and no mother, no mentors. I then removed clothing from my wardrobe and blesses her with it. She was grateful, and receptive with a brokeness, of the lessons and teaching about her dress code. She then after her deliverances, she was a blessing to the choir, & Praise Team with anointings and giftings in musci and song. That same young woman, drew souls to the church, even from a far, because of the anointoing God placed on her life. The Bible says, He that winneth souls is wise."I also was in the position to rebuke and correct ,one of the members, who refused instructions and yet decided she wants to dress the way she wants, I like my clothing and skirts short she said. She rebelled constantly and refuse to submit to authority. She left the church angrily. Suffice to say, We must confront when we should. We must be God pleasers and not men pleasers. It is also very sad, & inappropriately that Pastor's Wive, Leaders, dress the same way as these young girls, too tight clothing, cleavage showing, thighs showing, or fabric too clingy, or knees showing. Men who have wives in the church should discuss with them the dress and mannerism,These women represent God & their husbands. Our bodies are the temple of God. Women If and when you dress in the manner, you are sending off the wrong signal and the wrong . It is saying I am looking for attention. When you decide to leave your homes, whether it is church day or grocery store day. You must know I represent God. The first thing, women should never shop for those type of clothing, If at all possible find a seamstress or dressmaker, or learn to make your own clothing.My husband said to me, years ago, when we were engaed, I noticed that you never dress like the other women.I loved your style, it is Royalty and Holines, and you carry a spirit of excellence.' I purpose in my heart, that The Lord or my husband won't have to tell me, that is not right to wear .Saints of God, we are being watched by the world at all times.so let us do the right thing and glorify God, even in our dress apparel.
Remember, with loving kindness,have I drawn thee saith the Lord. Jesus took us all and cleansed us from all our filthy rags. For those un-saved just coming in the church, or yet not genereated. So in good faith,love and compassion, with wisdom, must we exemlpify our love. We msut help them and teach the younger women how to live and dress. Pastors and Lady Elects,it is their responsibilty to follow what the Lord say unto them. Ministry is not for fashion or show, The church is not a busienss, a club, or a fashion runway, or dynasty. It is a hospital for us as doctors/pastors to help stitch up the wounds that so many come into the church with. For the women in leadership, that is saved too long now, they must do the right thing. It is sin to know what to do, and yet not do it. They will give and account to God, and every thing or words spoken, or behavior that they exemplify. God is calling us all back to holiness, so men and women of God speak the truth. fear not, for the Lord they God is with thee. If we do the right thing, and speak & teach the true Word, there will be additon to the church. So don't worry if one leaves because of Holines or correction, God willl to bepleased with the stand that you take. Let Him say unto us, well done, my good and faithful servants , enter now into the Joy of the Lord. Let us draw near and wake up with repentance, becuse we have failed to tellthe truth, and worry about waht people may say.Let us enter in behind the vile, so he may wash our selves and then become clean, to He will then become vessels of honor, fit for the masters use. Only then will we be albe to draww souls, or influence or mentor anyone.If we are un-clean in minds, hearts, and bodies,clen, or not delivered or set free from our hang-ups, idiosyncracies, habits, we cannot then set anyone free. Hurt people cannot heal hurt people.
My brothers adn sisters in Christ, if we know better let us do better. "People that know their God, shall do exploits"
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Comment by The Homeowner's Ultimate Guide To Stopping Foreclosure on February 16, 2009 at 9:28pm
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Enough said! I don't think anyone can add. I thank you for speaking up because many people in the world think that modesty is not a requirement which is why so many people are coming to church with the clothes they wear to the club the night before. I love this post!
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Comment by Tara Robinson on February 15, 2009 at 5:18pm
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I do agree with you.But i would like to add is if a person mind is not renewed in God and have not stop conforming to the things of this world you will get the results of these behaviors. My question is when women who are saved dress this way who are you representing who attentions are you looking for and what does that say about you.Are you looking to please man or God.
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Comment by Jailyn dukes on February 14, 2009 at 11:15pm
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Amen
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