HOW TO ESTABLISH A CHURCH WHEN GOD HAS CALLED YOU TO THE CALL OF PASTORING?

Hello!

Are you truly seeking real answers?

Please, do not harden your heart, but accept the truth even if you don't understand it yet.

Please, do not harden your heart, but accept the truth even if it does not line up with the doctrines taught by your church.

The Bible says:

"It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers"

Ephesians 4:11

Jesus-Christ is the One who calls true Ministers. Those ones need not to be trained in a Seminary or a Pastoral school.

“For it is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends”.

2 Corinthians 10:18

Moreover, Jesus Christ never calls WOMEN TO OVERSEE CHURCHES.

Yes, Jesus Christ never calls WOMEN TO BECOME PASTORS.

Today, men have created their own churches, in which women are ordained Pastors.

Thus, there is a differentiation to be made between the true CHURCH of Jesus and the Churches established by business men and women.

Indeed, Jesus Christ has a single Church which is built on revelation:

“And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build MY CHURCH, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.”

Matthew 16:18

Jesus says: “MY CHURCH”

THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS NOT A DENOMINATION ESTABLISHED BY MAN.

Indeed, a true Pastor must not wonder How to establish a Church for the One who calls the true ministers is the only one who establishes the CHURCH.

The One who calls the Pastors is the only One Who builds or establishes the CHURCH, His CHURCH.

And the One who builds the Church is the only One who adds to the number of the believers daily those who were being saved (Acts 2:47)

I hope this can help!

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

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Comment by N'ZI Amani Germain on June 3, 2009 at 6:06am
Dear sister Yolanda Burton,

Women can sing, pray, prophesy in the Church, but they must not stand behind the Pulpit and teach the word of God in the Assembly of God in thte presence of men and women.

It is very clear, isn't it?

Indeed, the Bible says:

"If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church".

"1 Corinthians 14:35

The Bible doesn't say if they want to sing, they should ask their own husbands at home. No!

The Bible doesn't say if they want to testify, they should ask their own husbands at home. No!

The Bible doesn't say if they want to pray, they should ask their own husbands at home. No!

The Bible doesn't say if they want to prophesy, they should ask their own husbands at home. No!

But, the Bible truly says that "if they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church".

IF THEY WANT TO INQUIRE ABOUT SOMETHING...

This part of the verse above deals with TEACHING, GIVING OR RECEIVING INSTRUCTIONS.

SPEAKING HERE FREFERS TO TEACHING IN THE CHURCH.

Indeed, Brother Paul precised his statement in 1 Timothy 2: 12:

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent".

I DO NOT PERMIT A WOMAN TO TEACH...

TO REMAIN SILENT HERE MEANS "NOT TO TEACH AND NOT TO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER A MAN"

However, women can sing, pray, prophesy in the Church.

Dear sister, I do invite you to search and read my message entitled: "WOMEN OF GOD, ARE YOU REALLY CONSCIOUS OF THE KEY ROLE THAT YOU OUGHT TO PLAY IN THE BODY OF CHRIST?

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

www.tagworld.com/srobouay
www.myspace.com/wawesan
Comment by N'ZI Amani Germain on April 29, 2009 at 7:49am
Dear sister Peak from the Circle O Faith Prayer Ministry, you said:

“…You must be from the ole school teaching where they donot permit women to speak....ha, ha God bless your soul...You only speak form the level of knowledge you are operating from within…”

I thank you dear sister. But I think that your analysis above is a particular interpretation of the Word of God. The Gospel is not our own word; it’s the Word of God. Consequently, it should not be influenced by our belief, our feeling and our own thoughts.

Indeed, a woman can prophesy according to Joel 2:28

"And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions”.

Joel 2:28

Let me tell you that the teaching of Brother Paul was in line with Joel 2:28 1.

Brother Paul teaches that a woman can pray or prophesy (1 Corinthians 11: 4-5)

The promise of the prophet Joel was that "sons and daughters" would prophesy after the Holy Spirit was given to the church (Joel 2:28)

Admittedly, all of them, men and women were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

HOWEVER, only the twelve Disciples (MEN ONLY) were entitled to teach on the day Pentecost:

“Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: "Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say.”

Acts 2:14

Joel 2:28 can never justify women’s teaching in the Assembly of the Saints.

But what should women do in the Church?

As good mothers old women ought to teach what is good to their daughters: a woman can train the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.”

Titus 2:3-5

They can testify as the Samaritan woman did:

"Come; see a man who told me everything I ever did. Could this be the Christ?"

John 4:29

They can prophesy, pray, testify or teach young women.

HOWEVER, they do not have the right to be put behind the pulpit to teach the Word of God, in the Assemblies of the Saints, in the presence of the men and the women. I think that the Bible is sufficiently clear.

Dear sister you said again:

“ …Ha ha ha haha ----Well, that was Apostle Paul doctrine, that have you believe Women should be silent..You have to remember we are now living in a different era...or have you decided to come and live with us in this new era?...”

No, I refuse to join you in your new era.

I choose to get stuck to the old school teaching of Brother Paul and all the Apostles, because the true Church of Jesus Christ is “built on the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone”.

Ephesians 2:20

Please tell me, were the teachings of the Apostle Paul related to woman’s clothing or submission in the church, to their husband addressing an isolated situation in Ephesus and Corinth?

I don’t think so!

Are the teachings of the Apostle Paul on these issues outdated?

NO, I do not think so!

Because the Bible declares that: « All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

2 Timothy 3:16-17

Let’s see what Paul said:

“For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command.”

1 Corinthians 14:33-37

Was Paul referring to “the Corinthian culture and its laws”?

Paul truly said:

1- “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches”

What Paul said was concerning not only the Church of Corinth but also all churches of the saints in the whole world.

2- “They must be in submission as the Law says.”

The law here is the Law of God. This Law can be found in Genesis 3:16, Ephesians 5:22-24, 1 Peter 3: 1.

This is the reason why the same Paul, speaking about the attitude of the women in the church (1 Timothy 2:11-14) referred to Genesis 3:16.

Paul was not referring to the particular Law of Corinthians. No!

The teachings of Paul can never be based on the rules taught by men. Never! I say never!
“They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.”(Mark 7:7)

3- Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?”

Indeed, The Word of God didn’t originate with Corinthians. Moreover, they are not the only people it has reached. The Word of God is universal and identical for all the congregations of the Saints. Consequently, Paul did not speak about the particular culture of the Corinthians, insofar as there is only one faith (Ephesians 4: 5)

4- “The Lord's command”

What Paul did say was not his own opinion; it was the Lord’s command. Amen!

Women of God, Do you really Love the Lord? If you truly love Him, then you should obey His command, for the Lord Jesus said:

"If you love me, you will obey what I command.”

John 14:15

Do not harden your heart anymore but leave the pulpit to men of God. Recognize your place! Please recognize that your place is behind! Amen!

The scripture which clearly prohibited the Corinthians and Ephesians women from teaching is the Lord’s command. That is valid for the women of all the congregations of the saints (of any time).

That scripture was valid for Deborah, Anna, Priscilla, Phoebe, Mary, Tryphena, Tryphisa, Euodia, Syntyche and son on.

And it’s valid for the women of today.

May God open your eyes!

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

www.tagworld.com/srobouay
www.myspace.com/wawesan

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