SHOULD CHRISTIAN COUPLES HAVE ORAL SEX?

Dear sir PROPHET H L SHIELDS,

You asked:

SHOULD CHRISTIAN COUPLES HAVE ORAL SEX?

Please, let me ask you some questions too.

I think that the answer of my questions will be the answer of yours.

CAN CHRISTIAN COUPLES GET CHILDREN BY ORAL SEX?

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF SEX IN A CHRISTIAN COUPLE?

I'm waiting for your answer.

Please, read and reread Romans 1:28-29; 12: 1-2, Hebrews 12:14 before answering my questions.

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

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Comment by N'ZI Amani Germain on May 14, 2009 at 5:13am
QUESTION: SHOULD CHRISTIAN COUPLES HAVE ORAL SEX?

THIS IS MY VIEW POINT ACCORDING THE HOLY BIBLE!

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, this is my position according the Holy Bible!

Anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex or a member of the same sex within or out the marriage is a sexual immorality.

Oral or anal sex has nothing to do with the fact that you are Christian.

There are psychological implications to this thing. This act is so strongly linked to gay sex.

Foreplay is important, but it does not include anal or oral copulation.

Let us see the biblical context of this sensitive issue.

Indeed, the Bible declares:

“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral”

Hebrews 13:4

Anal sex and oral sex as defined above are sexual immoralities which can defile the marriage bed.

Marriage can never be a pretext to do whatever we want. No!

Indeed, the Bible declares:

"Everything is permissible for me"- but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"- but I will not be mastered by anything.

1 Corinthians 6:12

Why do Christians judge other people for committing sodomy?

Is it because they are not married?

Within marriage or out of marriage, doesn’t sodomy remain a sexual immorality?

If a Man and a Woman are married, they can please each other at there fullest, however, do you think that marriage can be a pretext for them to practice sodomy for example?

Indeed, the Bible says:

“You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?”

Romans 2:1-4

Marriage can never be an excuse to practice a sexual immorality. Never!

Of course, behind close doors is the church business. It is the Holy Spirit’s business. It’s God’s business according to Hebrews 13:4:

“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral”

Don’t you believe that oral sex is a sexual immorality?

All the unnatural acts that spill the seed so that lust can be satisfied without the marital act taking place go together: oral sex, anal sex, onan's method (Genesis 38: 9-10), masturbation, etc., none of these are the loving, giving, natural, sacramental, beautiful marital embrace that God has ordained to give grace to copules and to be a type of the love between Christ and His Church. Rather they are perversions of human sexuality.

This is the truth!

I don’t agree that anything is ok as long as both agree. There are all sorts of things that are definatly not ok such as bondage, sadism in sex, machosism in sex, etc and these things defile the marriage bed.

Do you want to see expressly the phrase oral sex in the Bible before believing that it’s a sin?

Have you ever seen the word homosexuality in the Bible?

It’s true that the Scripture doesn’t deal with this particular aspect of sexuality directly. In Romans 1:26-27 and Jude 7 homosexuality is not listed by name. Nonetheless, at some point during Judeo-Christian history, the idea that Sodom's sin was mainly homosexual in nature did become the interpretation accepted by the majority.

“In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Jude 1:7

ANAL SEX, ORAL SEX, SADISM IN SEX, MACHOSISM, ONAN’S METHOD (Genesis 38: 9-10), MASTURBATION, HOMOSEXUALITY, LESBIANISM, CHILD MOLESTATION etc. ARE ALL SEXUAL IMMORALITIES AND PERVERSIONS.

These are ungodly things. The Bible is not quite about these deviancies.

The Bible calls them “sexual immoralities and perversions”.

All the unnatural acts that spill the seed so that lust can be satisfied without the marital act taking place go together.

They are shameful lusts.

They are not natural relations. For example oral copulation is unnatural. The natural use for the mouth isn't for sex.

“Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion”.

Romans 1:26-27

Do you want to see the phrase "ORAL SEX" in the Bible before believing that it is an impurity?

For example, do you want to see the word "CIGARETTE" in the Bible before believing that a Christian should not smoke?

Brothers and sisters, please, let the Holy Spirit transform you by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-His good, pleasing and perfect will (Roman 12:1-2).

Brothers and sisters, I warn you: without holiness no one will see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).

For example, do you want to see the word “pedophilia” in your Bible before attesting that it is a perversion or a sexual immorality?

Brothers and sisters, we are all more or less sensitive in different areas: intelligence, feelings, emotions, physical senses, but in this study it is the spiritual, concerning the things of God, Christ, Holy Spirit.

The apostle Paul teaches that spiritual things are only accessible to those whose mind is exercised in their perception.

“The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
"For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him "But we have the mind of Christ ».

1Corinthians 2:14-16

The spiritual man makes judgments about all things.

Yes, the spiritual man makes judgments about ORAL SEX (oral copulation) and spiritually discerns that it is a sexual immorality.

Indeed, it is written in the Epistle to the Hebrews:

”Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil”.

Hebrews 5:13-14

Brothers and sisters, have you trained yourself to distinguish good from evil?

“Because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God”(Romans 8:14).

By constant use they have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil (Hebrews 5:14)

May God open your eyes!

Some theologians teach that the passage of Hebrews 13:4 tells us that there are only two types of sexual sin which dishonor the marriage bed: fornication and adultery …since the marriage bed is only defiled by fornication and adultery, that implies that most other activities are acceptable. This would imply that oral sex is okay. God has given a husband and wife great freedom in the area of sex… It is simply to assert that if the activity (such as oral sex) is the sort that tends to bring people to sexual climax, then that activity is clearly sexual in nature. Therefore, the activity falls into the category of sexual relations and is forbidden outside marriage.

This is an erroneous view! This is a lie!

This is what the Bible truly says:

“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral”

Hebrews 13:4:

The Bible (the new international version) says “the adulterer and all the sexually immoral”

The Bible (the new international version) says “sexual immorality and perversion” (Jude 1:7)

The Bible (the new international version) speaks about the exchanging of the natural relations for unnatural ones.

The bible does not define exhaustively all the sexual immoralities. We must discern them by the Holy Spirit.

I’d like to ask a question to the false teachers:

According to the assertion above, since the marriage bed is only defiled by fornication and adultery, does that imply that most other activities such as ANAL SEX, ORAL SEX, SADISM IN SEX, MACHOSISM etc. are acceptable within the marriage?

Has God given a husband and wife great freedom in the area of sex to practice such things?

I DO NOT THINK SO!

VERILY, FORNICATION, ADULTERY, ANAL SEX, ORAL SEX, SADISM IN SEX, MACHOSISM AND ALL THE OTHER SEXUAL IMMORALITIES NOT EXPRESSLY ENUMERATED IN THE HOLY BIBLE CAN DEFILE THE MARRIAGE BED.

THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED.

MARRIAGE CAN NEVER BE A LICENSE TO COMMIT SUCH PERVERSIONS.

Please, do not exchange of the natural relations for unnatural ones!

Please, do not do that!

Marriage can never be a license to do such things! No!

I do not assert that a man can not kiss his wife, but I’m saying that the natural use for the mouth isn't for oral copulation, because oral copulation is an unnatural relation! Amen!

A worthy Christian couple should never do that!

It’s a perversion.

Oral sex is morally permissible as long as you do not judge other people for committing sodomy.

BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST, THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE TEXT IN THE SONGS OF SOLOMON IS REFERRING TO ORAL SEX.

“Eating” in the context of the songs of Solomon and the book of Proverbs is just a metaphor.

The Bible teaches that: « For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.”

1 Timothy 2:13-14

This is the sin of Eve:

"This is the way of an adulteress: She eats and wipes her mouth and says, I've done nothing wrong.”

Proverbs 30:20

What occurred in Eden?

There were two trees in the middle of the Garden of Eden. One was the tree of life; the other was the tree of the knowledge of the good and the evil. The man was to live by the tree of life and was not to touch the other tree, or then he would die. (Genesis 2: 17). But the man took this tree, and when he did it, death entered in him, by the sin, and he was separated from God.

What does the tree of life stand for?

This tree of life represented a person, because the word “tree” was always used to represent the men (Psalm 1:3; Matthew 3: 10; Mark 8: 24).

Our Lord Jesus is the source of eternal life, the bread of life, the brandy and the tree of life (1Jonh 5: 11-20; John 5: 40; Revelation 2: 7; John 4: 14).

The Bible points out that Jesus-Christ was the Rock which followed the children of Israel in the desert (1Corinthians 10: 4).

This tree which was the source of the life in Eden was Jesus-Christ. Amen!
He proclaimed Himself that he knew Abraham and that before Abraham, He was. He is the “I am”.

The eternal life is in the son of God and one does not find it elsewhere (1 John 5: 11-12).

If the tree of life represents the person of Jesus-Christ, then the tree of the knowledge of the good and the evil must also represent a person. Know that Satan was also in Eden:

You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings [c] were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared.

Ezekiel 28:13

Do you also know that the Devil is called “the ancient serpent”?

“The great dragon was hurled down - that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.”

Revelation 12:9

Is such an assimilation of the devil to the SERPENT fortuitous? No!

Thus, the Righteous (Jesus-Christ) and the malicious one (devil) were held side by side in the middle of the garden there.

To confuse these two trees with the ordinary trees of the Garden of Eden would be lack of knowledge about what had really occurred in Eden.

Now, what does the forbidden fruit stand for?

Why did Adam and Eve, after having sinned, hide the nudity of their sex and not for example their mouth?

Why did God say to Eve: “I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you”?

Genesis 3:16

Does one give birth to children by the tasting of an apple for example?

Let me tell you that Eve made adultery, but Adam loved her and he agreed to share her responsibility thereafter he made her pregnant.

Eve was deceived: “When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it”.

Genesis 3:6

Do you understand the Word of God?

What is a “fruit” in the context of the relationship between a man and a woman?

Let us see it!

“Awake, north wind, and come, south wind! Blow on my garden, that its fragrance may spread abroad. Let my lover come into his garden and taste its choice fruits.”

Song of Solomon 4:16

Let us see it again!

“I have come into my garden, my sister, my bride; I have gathered my myrrh with my spice. I have eaten my honeycomb and my honey; I have drunk my wine and my milk.”

Song of Solomon 5:1

What does the verb “to eat” in the context of the relationship between the man and the woman mean?

Let us see it!

"This is the way of an adulteress: She eats and wipes her mouth and says, 'I've done nothing wrong.”

Proverbs 30:20

Please, tell me, does an adulteress eat with her mouth? To eat with one’s mouth, to eat an apple, or a natural fruit with one’s mouth, is it the transgression which led all the humanity to death? No!

Do you understand why Adam and Eve sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. (Genesis 3: 7)

There is only the sex act which can open the eyes of Adam and Eve and make them become aware of their nudity.

Satan knew that the body of the man was to be the temple, the dwelling of God. This is why he wished to live in the man, just like God did it. But Satan could not make it so, God having reserved the right to appear in the flesh and to come among us in flesh. Satan does not have any creative power. He could not have a child with Eve directly as God did it with Mary, mother of Jesus. For this reason he entered the serpent, which was similar to the man and deceived Eve.

1-Before he was punished, he was walking as a man (a human), he did not crawl (Genesis 3: 14).

2-The serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made (Genesis 3:1).

3- Moreover, he had the faculty to speak, because he conversed with Eve. (Genesis 3: 1-5). Then

4-He deceived Eve (Genesis 3: 13).

5-He had a posterity (Genesis 3: 15).

The serpent was the substitute of Satan so that he could have a child with Eve. Here is the plan, the project of Satan when he was in Eden (Ezekiel 28:13). One understands well why Satan is called “the ancient serpent” (Revelation 12: 9).

Satan penetrated in the serpent as he did it later in the herd of pigs (Matthew 8: 31).
Let us notice that God never enter the animals but Satan will always make it to achieve his intentions. He made use of an animal similar to the man, deceived Eve and had a posterity by Cain his son.

Please, do not try to interpret the Holy Scriptures. When the Bible says that Cain originated with the wicked one, that means quite simply that Satan was his father (1John 3: 12).

Eve was the mother of all the living (Genesis 3:20), but not Adam, Adam was not the father of Cain. No!

When Cain was born, he had the index properties of Satan. He who introduces Cain into the posterity of Adam whereas it is not mentioned in the Bible, adds something to the Word of God and is liable to the sorrows or the plagues described in the Bible (Revelation 22: 18)

Coexistence of the two seeds is still a reality today.

There was at the beginning two posterities, two distinct seeds, that of Adam by Seth and that of Satan the ancient serpent by Cain. Thereafter it occurred the corruption or the mixture of the two seeds (Genesis 6:1-3) which remained and coexisted till in the New Testament.

We see that in the explanation of the parable of the weeds given by our Lord Jesus-Christ in Matthew 13: 24-30.

“The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels”.

Matthew 13:38-39

There was mixture of the two seeds, but that cannot prevent our Lord from distinguishing the children of the devil and the children of God (John 8: 44, Matthew 23:32-33, Matthew 25:34, John 10:14-15, John 6:64-65,)

“This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.”

1Timothy 2:3-4

But the descendants of Cain cannot penetrate the depths of the Word of God, while the descendants of Adam by Seth receive wisdom in top to know God (Matthew 13: 13-16).

Indeed, Brother Paul said:

« And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness, made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ”.

2 Corinthians 4:3-6

The children of the devil are recognized by their fruits (Matthew 7: 20)

« No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother”.

1 John 3:9-10

Satan indeed had a seed resulting from the human race and this one will never escape the punishment from the hell.

We do not need to index people arbitrarily because while we are pulling the weeds, we may root up the wheat with them (Matthew 13: 29).

Each one should examine oneself and consider to which group she or he belongs because the the Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children (Romans 8: 16)
Amen!!!

It’s puerile (funny) to affirm that the posterity of the serpent mentioned in Genesis 3:15, are the small crawling snakes (according to certain beliefs), since the serpent was walking as the man (like a human) before being cursed by God.
It was in its primitive nature that it generated its seed.

How could God put enmity between two noncomparable things, in one hand, the small crawling snakes and in the other hand, the posterity of the woman?

The posterity of the serpent is not spiritual. Any reader of the Bible knows that the seed of the woman was Christ who came by the intervention of God, without a human sexual act (Luke 1: 26-35).

It is also well-known that the breaking of the head of the serpent was a prophecy relating to what Christ achieved at the cross against Satan. It was at the cross that Christ crushed the head of Satan, while Satan wounded the heel of the Lord.

If the posterity of the woman were a physical being, male child (revelation 12: 5), that of the serpent was to be the same kind, and another male was to be born apart from the intervention from a human sexual act.

Just as the seed of the woman was literally God, coming in the human flesh (1 Timothy 3: 16; John 1: 14), thus the seed of the serpent is the literal manner which Satan found that he could cut through a path in the human race. He introduced his seed into humanity. It was impossible for Satan to appear or to reproduce himself in the human flesh as God did, because Satan is a spiritual creature and he cannot create. He doesn’t have the capacity of creation.

Before Adam had never known his wife according to the flesh, the serpent had preceded him in this knowledge. And the son, who was born from the serpent, was Cain. A seed implies a design, a production (Genesis 12: 7; 15: 5; 22: 17-18). When God spoke about the descent of the serpent (Genesis 3: 15) He did not refer to a spiritual posterity (Galatians 3: 29), but a physical prosterity. The contexts of Genesis 3:15 and Galatians 3: 29 are not the same.

Indeed, the filiation of Cain is revealed to us: “Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous.”

1 John 3: 12.

One understands then why Cain and Abel had a fundamentally different nature. Adam was sons of God by creation (Luke 3: 38). It was not a spiritual act but a physical act. He was created perfect and it is not certainly in the nature of Adam that we must seek all the features characteristic of Cain.

Cain was malicious as his father the devil which is the evil one, the malicious one (1John 5: 19; 1John 2: 13; Matthew 13: 19). Cain was jealous, aggressive, disrespectful towards God and murderer like his father (John 10: 10). Can you tell me why didn’t God look with favour Cain and his offering? (Genesis 4: 5)?
The good works of Cain didn’t save him. As he was not the son of Adam (1 John 3:12), son of God, He didn’t have revelation which could enable him to test and approve what God's will is.

Moreover the Bible says:

“And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.”

Genesis 5:3-5

Abel was no more alive, but why had Cain the elder who was alive been omitted?

Why wasn’t he a son in Adam’s own likeness, and after his image?

Let us see the historical Records From Adam to Abraham To Noah's Sons:

“Adam, Sheth, Enosh, Kenan, Mahalaleel, Jered, Henoch, Methuselah, Lamech,Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.”

1 Chronicles 1:1-4

Abel was no more alive, but why had Cain who was alive been omitted?

The Orginal sin is a Topic which deeply deals with a problem of seed (Matthew 13:24-30)

The serpent managed in a practical way to successfully get a posterity among the human ones.

By eating the fruit, Eve disobeyed God, and that made her unclean.

But what kind of fruit did she eat?

Adam and Eve didn't simply eat an Apple. They did not eat a natural fruit. A natural fruit cannot make a man unclean. Eve was adulteress.

Indeed, only murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander can make someone unclean.

"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' "

Matthew 15:17-20

BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST, THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE TEXT IN THE SONGS OF SOLOMON IS REFERRING TO ORAL SEX

ORAL COPULATION IS A SEXUAL IMMORALITY. IT CAN MAKE YOU UNCLEAN. IT CAN DEFILE YOUR MARRIAGE BED.

For more details, I do invite you to search and read my message entitled: « the original sin ». It’s available on my websites.

I do recommend you also to visit the following Web sites and to read or order the booklet entitled “ the original sin”.

http://www.inthedaysofthevoice.com

http://www.nathan.co.za/sermonwb.asp

God has already spoken by His Prophet. Please recognize your day and its Message.

"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

Revelation 3:22

May God bless you!

Bro. Germain

http://www.tagworld.com/srobouay
http://www.myspace.com/wawesan
Comment by N'ZI Amani Germain on May 14, 2009 at 5:03am
VIEW POINT NUMBER 6

“Is oral sex biblically wrong in a Christian marraige? by Anais Chekwa

Is oral sex biblically wrong? This question is a common one within Christian marriages. Husbands and wives who love God with all their hearts do not want to sin against God and usually seek an answer on the biblical view on oral sex in a Christian marriage.

The first point to note is that the bible is silent on the issue of is oral sex wrong or not. It does not denote it a sin nor does it discuss it at all. What we do know is that sex was God's original idea. God created sex and he encourages us to participate in it as married husbands and wives. God's first commandment to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden included a sexual reference - "And God blessed them, saying, be fruitful, and multiply." (Genesis 1:22). In addition, God intended sex to be a fun and pleasurable experience between a husband and wife.

What we need to remember as Christian husbands and wives is that marriage is honorable in God's sight and sex is good within a marriage. Hebrews 13:4 also says that "Marriage is honorable in all and the bed undefiled." The bible is very clear about what is sexually sinful. I don't believe oral sex within a marriage is wrong because it does not fall into any of God's commandments on sexual sins and we can assume that if you and your spouse find oral sex pleasurable within the confinements of your marriage, then by all means, have at it!

As Christians, just because we are constantly bombarded with perverted representations of sexuality in our world today does not mean that we should equate what God considers good and honorable to sin. God created a holy and sacred union so that we can be free to participate in and enjoy sex.

If you read the Songs of Solomon, you will find that it seems to be speaking of the lovers tasting, eating, and drinking of each other's bodies (Songs of Solomon 2:3; 4:16; 8:2). One misconception we often hear in Christian circles regarding this issue of oral sex has to do with Sodom and Gomorrah. It is very clear in the bible that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah did not involve a man and a woman in a heterosexual marriage expressing their love for each other. In fact, Lot and his wife were the only godly, loving, married couples in Sodom and Gomorrah.

I feel it is important to note that God's ultimate concern for married couples and their sex lives is their love for each other. Love is pure, kind, patient, unselfish, and respectful. Whatever prohibitions you impose on your sex life within the confines of your marriage, let it be done out of patience, respect for each other's wishes and selflessness.

My husband and I were 25 years old when we got married and we had never had sex. Not with each other, nor with anyone else for that matter. We were both virgins. We had dated for six years and although the temptations were there, we had made a vow to God as Christians that we would wait until we were married to have sex. We found the beginnings of our sex lives after we were married somewhat disappointing. Needless to say, we had a lot of questions, including questions about God's thoughts on oral sex, and started looking for answers to them. I happened to stumble upon Robert & Susan Irwin's BetterSex4Christians Website and was curious enough to request a book. The resources offered on this site are offered by strong Christian authors who have dedicated their lives to helping Christian married couples experience marriage and enjoy their sex lives the way God intended. We found more than specific, biblibal-based answers to our sex related questions with Robert & Susan's resources. The material is not vulgar or perverted or filled with pornorgraphic images. What we found were resources that were so useful for our sex-life and marriage as a whole, including how we should treat each other as husbands and wives. The best part is that every advice and ideas put forth is biblically based and resonated within our hearts as what God intended for our married life together. I was the first to find Robert & Susan's resources and that very week, my husband noticed a difference in our sex life and our relationship.

If you find yourself in our shoes, or you have questions about God's stand on a variety of sex-related issues, or you simply want to improve on your sex life and get closer”

Source:

http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=1252040



VIEW POINT NUMBER 7

“Well for something to be mortal it has to be these 3 things

1. seriously wrong
2. you have to know it is wrong
3. you have to do it anyway

1. If oral sex is used for male ejaculation it is seriously wrong and can NEVER be done. It could be used as foreplay for men or women, but the end result has to be sexual intercourse.
2. NOW you do know it is wrong
3. If you did it.

So if you read all these 3 and do it anway (ejaculation without intercourse) it is mortal. OR in a woman's case, if you just pleasured her and didn't have intercourse that is equally as bad.

You also have to take into consideration the reasons for oral sex, especially if a woman is giving it to a guy. Their is such a bad conotation with it, and usually derogatory to woman, or the man forces the woman to do it, or makes them feel guilty if they don't. The last thing you would want to do is to be "using" your wife. but if she likes/wants to do it, then that is between you two.

I hope that helps to clear things up.

and with all sins...if you are not sure if you should go to communion....don't go...go to confession first....but we should all be going to confession on a regular basis anyway...even if we don't mortally sin”.

Source:

http://69.43.207.164/showthread.php?t=23146



VIEW POINT NUMBER 8

“My wife and I are orthodox christians and love the Lord with all our hearts, and we don't want to do anything to sin against Him. Our question is in the area of oral sex. Is it scripturally wrong for married couples. If yes or no, why in each case (by supporting answers from the bible) ?

P.S. Was the punishment of Sodom & Gomorrah because of homosexuality mainly or what?
THANKS A LOT…

Consider that you are supposed to recieve the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ in your mouth. Isn't this a satisfactory argument against oral sex?

…This is probably an answer you should seek from your father of confession rather than online... but it is wrong. Sex is a means of grace by which the couple is united and are one flesh. Acts like this one are more ordered towards gratifying lust. Don't get me wrong, it's good to enjoy each other, it's not about pleasure being wrong or anything like that, it's just seperating sex from the natural unitive act, which should not be done. Also, you shouldn't just be looking to the Bible for your answers, and looking only for answers that are "proved" from the Bible. Doublessly one person will come and quote verses that "prove" it's ok, and another will "prove" that it's not. You're better off to consult with your father of confession and be obedient to him and to the Orthodox tradition and spirituality (which is completely in harmony with the Bible, never contradicting it) which he's supposed to guide you in…

I don't think that the Scripture deals with this particular aspect of sexuality directly, but traditionally oral sex has not been allowed in the Orthodox Church. Generally, any intentional "wasting" of semen is considered a bad thing, and thus the ancient Church only endorsed one particular method/position for sexual relations. Some Fathers took this so far that they gave a penance and refused communion to anyone who had unintentionally had a wet dream, though other Fathers saw this as a non-issue if it was not a willful action or due to negligence. As to Sodom and Gomorrah, the Scripture mentions these cities a half dozen times or more, and only once gives their sin as sexual in nature (and even in that case--Jude 7--homosexuality is not listed by name). Jesus even says that Capernaum would have a tougher time on Judgment day than Sodom. Nonetheless, at some point during Judeo-Christian history, the idea that Sodom's sin was mainly homosexual in nature did become the interpretation accepted by the majority.

...No one is saying that anyone is on their way to hell here... judgment belongs to God not to us! What we're saying is that the act you've asked about is in fact a sin, and rather than leading you to intimacy with your spouce and with God as do marital relations, this act will lead you away from this intimacy and is actually a source of isolation, both from your spounce and from God. It is a selfish act rather than a giving one. No one is going futher to say that this seperation will be an eternal one leading to eternal condemnation in Hell, God is the judge of such things, not us, we all sin, and God knows how He deals with us according to His mercy. But it would certainly be safer not to wilfully commit such a sin, and besides, who cares about preoccupation with Hell? life is better in the love of God, and that's what we should persue, seeking His will out of love for Him, not fear of Hell.

As someone else said, all the unnatural acts that spill the seed so that lust can be satisfied without the marital act taking place go together: oral sex, anal sex, onan's method, masterbation, etc., none of these are the loving, giving, natural, sacramental, beautiful marital embrace that God has ordained to give grace to copules and to be a type of the love between Christ and His Church. Rather they are perversions of human sexuality.

That's not to see any of us are judging you if you do these things, they are difficult, addictive sins that are easy to fall into, especially in a society that trains us to think they're normal when they're not. It isn't the place of us sinners to judge you... However without judgment, and out of love I tell you that these things are not pleasing to God, and that you will be happier without them. Lust consumes, it never satisfies. It is depraved, and just leads you wanting more and more, less and less satisfied. The satisfaction it promises is a lie it wispers before leaving us empty. It is completely different than the loving marital act (not that this too can't be done out of lust rather than as an expression of love if you're hearts desire is to take pleasure from your spouce rather than to love her).

From what I've read of these things from holy men who have experienced marriage: Basically these lustful things are immature, perverted expressions of human sexuality. In marriage, in the beginning if you need sexy clothes and that kind of thing, it's not wrong, but it's also immature (that is not a judgment or saying it's wrong, just that there's better to be had). Later marital sex should progress to be less and less about the physical and more and more about an expression of love... Not that you stop enjoying the physical, but rather that you discover more and greater depth of meaning in the spiritual and emotional connection... Although of course never should the physical aspect be despised or thought wrong, it is given to be enjoyed.

As for Biblical proofs, looks as people have mentioned about any instance of perverted sexual acts in the OT, or about what St. Paul says about lust and about sexual imorality in the NT... or about the types given of Christ and the Church.... there's lots to read there if you want to look, but I for one am not knowledgable enough to guide you through it, and really, if you want to you will read into it whatever you want to see, which is why you're better to subject yourself to the guidance of your father of confession rather than to make yourself your own father of confession by trusting in your own mind to interpret the Bible and discover what's right in a matter in which you have passions and desires…
… I know, I know, no sexual "whatever" should go on without at least the possibility of a pregnancy happening…

Source:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?topic=8898.0



VIEW POINT NUMBER 9

“I go to a Christian ministry and teaching centre in the uk where they teach and minister to thousands of people inclusing those wilth sexual issues. They have done healing and deliverance on many to set them free. What they have found after 20 years of experience is that it is ok to kiss etc those sexual areas, but not to actually swallow the semen. They have actually had to deliver people who have done this and it is a way that spirits can cross from one person to another.this is in the same way that having sex with someone who isnt your spouse can transfer evil spirits and create ungodly soul ties between them.
Dont attack me if you disagree with this, this is what years of ministry to thousands has taught them.
By the way, any sort of anal sex is a BIG NO NO and causes all sorts of spititual problems.

I dont agree that anything is ok as long as both agree.

There are all sorts of things that are definatly not ok such as bondage, sadism in sex, machosism in sex, etc and thse things defile the marriage bed. Also anything that includes anone else even if it is only someone in a porn magazine or whatever is out also… I appreciate the input here everyone. I especially am appreciative of your efforts in posting a reponse Lee. Thank you so much.

One of the main reasons my wife and I do not engage in oral sex is primarily at my wife's preference. She had been married to an abusive man (she became a believer after the divorce). He was an abusive man and that included the marriage bed. I'll spare you the details but suffice it to say there was nothing loving about the act for my wife. She was forced to participate in this and other acts that she did not want. It really is not a moral issue with her--there are psychological implications to this thing.

The same thing goes for me. In my mind oral sex is linked in my psych to homosexuality. Having been a participant in the past my brain is wired now that if I was to have oral sex with her I would have flashbacks of gay sex. I don't need that! Likewise there was a period of time after we got married that my wife could not put her hand on my genitals without me flinching--I had this inward deep desire to protect myself. I also had the flashback of my step-grandfather molesting me as he did when I was 7 years old. I did not want to feel that way but those feelings rose to the surface and was hard to break free from. Of course I am now--after all we have been married over 8 years now. But I think the reason I did not dispute the matter of abstaining from oral sex in our marriage bed is that the act is so strongly linked to gay sex (that is in my psych). It won't be with most people here but it is with me.

I will admit that there are certainly times that it appeals to me and turns me on--that is me giving to her. But when I think of her giving to me...I shrink away from that prospect. It disturbs me deep inside even though I know that it would be pleasureable-I certainly remember those sensations.

I guess to each their own. Do I think it is sin? I think it is when it takes over and becomes the main source of sexual fulfillment--basically replacing vaginal intercourse. This has happened to some couples. But I don't care to debate that just now.


Is there not some sort of health risks associated with mouth to gential contact? I'll have to look more closely at those health risks. Maybe you know of them better than I do.

Foreplay is important but for us it does not include oral sex. I do not judge any who indulge in it--not at all. Thanks for the comments. I know it is a sensitive subject for many--there are limits on a public forum although I know that I have shared here more openly than some people would feel comfortable doing themselves”.

Source:

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/index.php?topic=30378...
Comment by N'ZI Amani Germain on May 14, 2009 at 5:02am
SHOULD CHRISTIAN COUPLES HAVE ORAL SEX?


WHAT IS ORAL SEX?

Oral sex is stimulating the genitals with the mouth, lips and tongue, by kissing, sucking, licking and nibbling. Many people use oral sex as foreplay or a substitute for intercourse, because it can be just as important and enjoyable as full sex. Some people prefer gentle oral sex, with plenty of kisses to the areas around the genitals first, whereas others favor a firmer approach!

IS THERE NOT SOME SORT OF HEALTH RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH MOUTH TO GENITAL CONTACT?

We’ll have to look more closely at those health risks.
Although there is no risk of pregnancy, you can still catch some very nasty infections.
Many sexually transmitted infections (STIs) such as gonorrhoea, herpes, hepatitis B, chlamydia and HIV can be transmitted through oral-genital contact. It's also possible for a woman to pass thrush to her partner, while they perform oral sex. If a male ejaculates in his partner's mouth during oral sex, then the risk of catching an STI becomes higher.
If you have any sores or cuts in your mouth, you should avoid oral sex. Also, don't brush or floss your teeth right before you have oral sex. This could tear the lining of the mouth, and increase your risk of catching any viruses that may be present.

AS SUCH, SHOULD TRUE CHRISTIAN COUPLES HAVE ORAL SEX?

This is what many people think:

Indeed, some people think that Oral sex is not a sin as long as you complete it with intercourse. It is not considered sodomy but foreplay then. Oral sex is morally permissible between mutually consenting husband and wife as a form of foreplay or afterplay. So first orgasm (women's that is) oral, second intercourse.
Of course it is okay, you are married first of all and oral sex has nothing to do with the fact that you are Christian...if you are married you can do whatever you want to do as long as your partner is comfortable with it of course. It is ok to kiss those sexual areas, but not to actually swallow the semen.
According to those people, no where does the Bible forbid it or discuss it. There is no biblical evidence that it is a sin against God for a husband and wife to express love for each other in this way.
“If it’s with the one you love. Some scholars say that the Song of Solomon contains poetic references to oral sex. Such a reference, as one example, would be Song of Solomon 4:16,” Come ... blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits."

HOWEVER, other people think that oral sex is a sin since it provokes the spilling of the seed, while sex is only for procreation. Oral sex does not enhance procreation, which is the only reason a Christian should be having sex. Oral sex and anal sex are both prohibitive of procreation and therefore ARE SINS. After all...if God said "go forth and multiply" (by way of sex), and you're a Christian, and your sexual practices don't advocate procreation, why bother having sex? Shouldn't you remain celibate until you're ready to have a child?
A strict interpretation would indicate that oral sex is a sin, as the act would not be for procreation (and would be considered sodomy). Either be a Christian or don't, but don't pretend the religion is in favour of sodomy. Oral sex is morally permissible as long as you do not judge other people for committing sodomy. And many Christians do just that. They judge others for sodomy while being ignorant to the FACT that they do it too. What is the natural use for the mouth? It sure isn't for sex...Natural use (Romans 1).
Those people also think that there is no proof that the text in Solomon is referring to "oral" sex. Not at all.

Brothers and sisters in Christ, we note that the views on this issue are divided. There are arguments in favour of oral sex whereas others are against that practice.
So, let's first see the opinions of some theologians about oral sex before answering the question above in light of the holy Bible.


VIEW POINT NUMBER 1

“If a Man and Woman is Married where is it that they cant please each other at there” fullest??...” (Eric Hancock)

QUESTION: "My wife and I love the Lord with all our hearts, and we don't want to do anything to sin against Him. Our question is in the area of oral sex. Is it scripturally wrong for married couples?"

No where does the Bible forbid it or discuss it. There is no biblical evidence that it is a sin against God for a husband and wife to express love for each other in this way. Even the book of Leviticus, which mentions many Old Testament sex-related prohibitions and rules for the Israelites, never mentions it. We see no reason to believe that expressing affection for one's mate in this way is forbidden or would necessarily harm one's walk with God. We are aware that some have tried to make a biblical issue out of what parts of the body a married couple can and cannot kiss.

In their minds, there is only only one biblical form of sexual expression in marriage, sexual intercourse. They attempt to defend their viewpoint on biblical grounds -- trying to make it into a holiness issue. However, no where do we see Scripture putting such limits on the sexual relationship of a godly husband and wife, even Levitical priests (who were forbidden to do many things).

Most knowledgeable and spiritually mature Christians realize that God is the author of sex and love, and every part and sensation of the human body, and that He intended the relationship between husband and wife to be loving, sensuous, joyful, creative and full of pleasure.

Read the somewhat cryptic Song of Solomon from a lover's point of view. Using delicate, romantic language and metaphors, it describes a beautiful, affectionate, romantic, sensuous, joyful and passionate love between husband and wife. It seems to be speaking of the lovers tasting, eating and drinking of each other's bodies (Song of Songs 2:3; 4:16; 8:2). One cannot be sure what this means exactly, but certainly we see no evidence here or elsewhere that God is concerned with what part of their bodies might be touching, including where they kissed their mate.

God is concerned about your love for each other. He wants all Christians, including husbands and wives, to be kind to each other, patient, respectful and unselfish. Ultimate love is pure in motive and action. Follow that goal, and you are not likely to go wrong.

What about Sodom?

Perhaps you have heard some one claim that oral lovemaking in marriage as wrong by associating it with the ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. This comparison is misguided and offensive. It is quite clear that Sodom's problems had nothing to do with how godly, loving marriage partners were expressing their affection for each other.

To the contrary, there was a total lack of godly, loving, heterosexual marriage partners in Sodom (save Lot and his wife). We shall not name the many gross and demonically inspired evils that probably took place among the wicked there. It is better left unsaid. Suffice it to say that the list would sicken most people. "The men of Sodom were exceedingly wicked and sinful against the Lord" (Genesis 13:13). Serious students of the Bible and archaeology know that the kind of things that were going on at Sodom were done by extremely ungodly people, expressing enormous selfishness, total lack of love, extreme spiritual depravity, and major rebellion against God. In other words, the sex lives of godly husbands and wives was not an issue at these cities, nor did it have anything to do with its destruction.

Although the Bible is silent on the specifics of what you have asked (apparently leaving it up to the mutual agreement of the marriage partners), it is not silent on sex in marriage.

Conservative Christian marriage counselors Dr. Ed Wheat and Gloria Okes Perkins point out that...

"...a biblical understanding of sex dispels false fears and inhibitions. ...The Scriptures tell us clearly that the joyous sexual expression of love between husband and wife is God's plan. ...

Uninformed people have actually considered the Victorian view to be biblical because they think the Bible forbids all earthly pleasures. Certainly not! In fact, the Bible is far more 'liberated' concerning sex than untaught people realize. In God's view there is a mutuality of experience between husband and wife. Each has an equal right to the other's body. Each has not only the freedom but also the responsibility to please the other and to be pleased in return. ...

These basic principles concerning the enjoyment of sex in marriage are found in 1 Corinthians 7:3-5...

The principle of need... a commandment, to meet our mate's sexual needs...

The principle of authority... when we marry, we actually relinquish the right to our own body, and turn that authority over to our mate. ...the wife's body now belongs to the husband. The husband's body now belongs to the wife. This means that we must love our mate's body and care for it as our own...

The principle of habit... we must not cheat our partner by abstaining from the habit of sex, except by mutual consent for a brief time"

Source:

Christian Answers Network, Gilbert, AZ
Love Life for Every Married Couple, pp. 70-73 by Ed Wheat, M.D. and Gloria Okes Perkins.

http://www.nigeriansinamerica.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=971



VIEW POINT NUMBER 2

“Is it okay to have oral sex if you're in a committed marriage?
Yes, as long as both spouses are okay with it. If either one doesn't want it, it would be selfish and unloving for the other one to insist. Also, please see our article, "What's God's Plan for Sex in Marriage?"
And if it's wrong can you tell me where in the Bible it says this?
If you read the Song of Solomon, you can see that God encourages married people to enjoy His gift of sex in all its glory. Jody and Linda Dillow (authors of Solomon on Sex and Intimate Issues) believe that there are two veiled references to oral sex in the Song of Solomon. Keep in mind that in this biblical book, "garden" usually refers to the wife's genitals, and "fruit" to the husband's:
(Bride) Awake, O north wind
And come, wind of the south
Make my garden breathe out fragrance
Let its spices be wafted abroad
May my beloved come into his garden
And eat its choice fruits! (4:16)
Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest
So is my beloved among the young men
In his shade I took great delight and sat down
And his fruit was sweet to my taste. (2:3)”

Source:

http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4222945/k.BC32/Is_Oral_Se...



VIEW POINT NUMBER 3

“IS ORAL SEX A SIN?

Question

Is oral sex a sin?

Answer
Actually, the Bible doesn't specifically address the issue of oral sex. It does differentiate between marriage, heterosexuality, male and female homosexuality, bestiality, and incest, but it really doesn't get into the specific acts that take place within those relationships.

The Bible literally speaks in terms of "knowing," "uncovering nakedness," "lying with," "adultery," and "immorality" when it refers to sexual relations. It does not describe what particular acts fall into these categories, though it is clear from some of the cases in which these concepts are used that they cannot be limited to vaginal intercourse (e.g. Gen. 19:5; Judg. 19:22; Rom. 1:26-27). Sexual relations are acceptable within the context of marriage, and unacceptable outside that context.

The Bible seems to assume that people know what it means when it prohibits these types of activities in relationships other than marriage, much like the American public assumed that President Clinton should have known when testifying under oath that "sexual relations" included oral sex (in the fairly recent Monica Lewinski matter). The language in the Bible is flexible, and is intended to cover all types of sexual conduct, not just vaginal intercourse.

One way to determine what is and what is not appropriate behavior is by looking at the people who are forbidden to engage in acts of "knowing," "uncovering nakedness," "lying with," "adultery," and "immorality." If these terms are limited to vaginal intercourse (and by necessity to sodomy) but allow oral sex, then the Bible does not prohibit oral sex with anyone under any circumstance. If these terms do not cover oral sex, then the Bible does not forbid a father and daughter to engage in oral sex together. If these terms to not cover oral sex, then the Bible does not forbid a son and mother to engage in oral sex together. If these terms do not cover oral sex, then the Bible does not forbid a man to perform oral sex on another man, or a woman to perform oral sex on another woman.

I would suggest that a rather objective way to tell if something counts as "sexual relations" is to determine whether or not it tends to stimulate the sexual response of orgasm. This is not to say that sexual activity does not take place unless someone has an orgasm. Rather, it is simply to assert that if the activity (such as oral sex) is the sort that tends to bring people to sexual climax, then that activity is clearly sexual in nature. Therefore, the activity falls into the category of sexual relations and is forbidden outside marriage”.

Answer by Ra McLaughlin

Source:

http://reformedanswers.org/answer.asp/file/99823.qna/category/pt/si...



VIEW POINT NUMBER 4


“Bible Question: Is oral sex within marriage wrong? Does the Bible say anything against oral sex?

Bible Answer: God never talks about oral sex in the Bible directly, but He does provide us with a biblical principle that gives us the answer.
The Biblical Principle. The Bible has a lot to say about sex. Sometimes God warns us to not have sex, and on other occasions He encourages us to have sex. For example, in Proverbs 6:23-26 we are warned to avoid having sex with someone who is not our spouse and in 2 Tim. 2:22 we are warned to flee all other kinds of sexual sins. Sex outside of marriage is forbidden.
But within marriage, God encourages a husband and wife to have sex. Genesis 1:28 is a great example. Here God commands Adam and Eve to have sex in order to populate the earth. This command has never been revoked. Sex was God's idea. The Song of Solomon is the most sensuous and sexually explicit book in the Bible. Chapter four of the book describes physical relations between a husband and wife. There are no negative statements. There are no commands to pray before having sex. There are no warnings. Imagine an entire book of the Bible given to love and an entire chapter describing sexual intercourse.
God designed sex and He encourages us to do it with our spouse and no one else. But what kind of sex? Are all kinds acceptable? The answer comes in Hebrews 13:4.

Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled; for fornicators and adulterers God will judge. (NASB) Hebrews 13:4

Here we discover that a husband and wife can defile the marriage bed. That is, they can commit a sexual sin and bring dishonor to their bed. The passage tells us that there are only two types of sexual sin which dishonor the marriage bed: fornication and adultery. Fornication includes pre-marital sex, adultery, incest, homosexuality/lesbianism, and bestiality. These sins are to be avoided. Adultery is sexual sin with someone who is not your spouse.
Our Freedom. Since the marriage bed is only defiled by fornication and adultery, that implies that most other activities are acceptable. This would imply that oral sex is okay. God has given a husband and wife great freedom in the area of sex. Someone may read this and think that this is great for husbands. But there are many wives who want more sex than the husband does. This fact is often hidden by the media. Some wives will rejoice over this good news, as well as husbands.
But we also want to give a warning. God never intended for the marriage bed to be a bed of abuse either. Both partners need to be in agreement about the type of sexual activity. God has commanded a husband to love and honor his wife (Eph. 5:25-26; 1 Pet. 3:7) and God has commanded the wife to love her husband (Titus 2:4). If we submit to the Lord's command, we will avoid unloving behavior within marriage.

Conclusion: Oral sex within marriage should not become the predominant activity since God designed a man and woman for sex otherwise (Romans 1:27)”.

Source:

http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/corner/read1/r00530.html


VIEW POINT NUMBER 5

“Hi Reggie,

First of all we celebrate your new found devotion with you and pray for your continued spiritual growth.

As to your specific question about oral sex. The Churches teaches that sexual expression between husband and wife is sacramental. It is the union between a man and woman in which they truly become one flesh. In that context all sex acts which are not degrading and are not contraceptive are permissible so long as neither spouse is degraded.

So is oral sex sin for a married couple? No. However, it is not a substitute for intercourse and the act itself should not intentionally involve the man reaching climax outside of intercourse because that would be contraceptive in nature”.

Source:

http://www.askacatholic.com/_WebPostings/Answers/2008_04APR/2008Apr...
Comment by Eric Hancock on May 9, 2009 at 10:45am
MY FEELINGS ARE MUTUAL......WE SPIRITUALIZE TOO MUCH..LOL
Comment by Eric Hancock on May 8, 2009 at 2:40pm
a biblical understanding of sex dispels false fears and inhibitions. …The Scriptures tell us clearly that the joyous sexual expression of love between husband and wife is God's plan. …Uninformed people have actually considered the Victorian view to be biblical because they think the Bible forbids all earthly pleasures. Certainly not! In fact, the Bible is far more 'liberated' concerning sex than untaught people realize. In God's view there is a mutuality of experience between husband and wife. Each has an equal right to the other's body. Each has not only the freedom but also the responsibility to please the other and to be pleased in return. …These basic principles concerning the enjoyment of sex in marriage are found in 1 Corinthians 7:3-5…

The principle of need… a commandment, to meet our mate's sexual needs…
The principle of authority… when we marry, we actually relinquish the right to our own body, and turn that authority over to our mate. …the wife's body now belongs to the husband. The husband's body now belongs to the wife. This means that we must love our mate's body and care for it as our own…
Comment by Eric Hancock on May 8, 2009 at 2:37pm
If a Man and Woman is Married where is it that they cant please each other at there fullest??

No where does the Bible forbid it or discuss it. There is no biblical evidence that it is a sin against God for a husband and wife to express love for each other in this way. Even the book of Leviticus, which mentions many Old Testament sex-related prohibitions and rules for the Israelites, never mentions it. We see no reason to believe that expressing affection for one's mate in this way is forbidden or would necessarily harm one's walk with God.

We are aware that some have tried to make a biblical issue out of what parts of the body a married couple can and cannot kiss. In their minds, there is only only one biblical form of sexual expression in marriage, sexual intercourse. They attempt to defend their viewpoint on biblical grounds—trying to make it into a holiness issue. However, no where do we see Scripture putting such limits on the sexual relationship of a godly husband and wife, even Levitical priests (who were forbidden to do many things).

Most knowledgeable and spiritually mature Christians realize that God is the author of sex and love, and every part and sensation of the human body, and that He intended the relationship between husband and wife to be loving, sensuous, joyful, creative and full of pleasure.

Read the somewhat cryptic Song of Solomon from a lover's point of view. Using delicate, romantic language and metaphors, it describes a beautiful, affectionate, romantic, sensuous, joyful and passionate love between husband and wife. It seems to be speaking of the lovers tasting, eating and drinking of each other's bodies (Song of Songs 2:3; 4:16; 8:2). One cannot be sure what this means exactly, but certainly we see no evidence here or elsewhere that God is concerned with what part of their bodies might be touching, including where they kissed their mate. (About the Song of Solomon, see the WebBible Encyclopedia http://ChristianAnswers.Net/dictionary/solomonsongof.html)

God is concerned about your love for each other. He wants all Christians, including husbands and wives, to be kind to each other, patient, respectful and unselfish. Ultimate love is pure in motive and action. Follow that goal, and you are not likely to go wrong.
Comment by N'ZI Amani Germain on May 8, 2009 at 1:20pm
Dear Scott R. Newman

I'm not a sex expert. I do not have a catalogue of sexual positions to teach you!

This is not my duty.

But let me tell you that the true sons and daughters of God are led by the Holy Spirit.

Please, reread Roman 12:1-2

Do you want to see the phrase "ORAL SEX" in the Bible before believing that it is an impurity?

For example, do you want to see the phrase "CIGARETTE" in the Bible before believing that a christian should not smoke?

Brothers and sisters, please, let the Holy Spirit transform you by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-his good, pleasing and perfect will

Blessings,

Bro. Germain
Comment by N'ZI Amani Germain on May 8, 2009 at 12:55pm
Sister Altha Fugett asked:

"Brother Germain, are you suggesting that couples that are unable to have children abstain from sex?"

No sister, I'm not suggesting that couples that are unable to have children abstain from sex.

Having children is not the issue!

Abstaining from sex is not the issue!

But, are christian couples allowed to have ORAL SEX?

ORAL SEX is the issue!

Now, sister Altha Fugett, what is your view point?

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

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