I have not been available over the past week due to a family emergency. My grandmother suffered a silent heart attack and then a subsequent stroke. I am her primary caretaker and as such have not been able to respond as I would otherwise desire. I will address your comments however when things begin to calm down and I can get my head back into the game.
You say that your ministry is specifically regarding the garden word.
Then, which kind of ministry you have?
Are you specialized in a cemetery (seminary), or a biblical institute?
Indeed, a true ministry that comes from God must be a full ministry, “For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit (John 3:34).
God gives the Spirit without limit. Amen!
Specializations and ecclesiastic degrees originate from the cemeteries (seminaries), the biblical institutes or the broken cisterns that cannot hold water (Jeremiah 2:13-14).
This is the reason why you fail to understand the true meaning of the garden word written in the book of Genesis.
I'm waiting for your answers to my questions in my study entitled:
"THE EMERGING GARDEN STORY DOCTRINE IS JUST A FABLE"
Moreover, I do invite you to search and read my message entitled:
"THE ORIGINAL SIN"
Then, you will know that the name "EVE" was not a reward from God given by a compelled Adam.
There are many things people find it easy to say, as the landscape of history proves, but what you lack is proof and sound God Doctrine to back up your holocaust theory of the male tradition. You cannot prove it in word and merely repeating the same thing over and over again won't get you there.
Hello there man of God!!! The peace of the Lord be with you. I'm just stopping by to show some love. Be blessed and may the Lord continue to pour his favor upon you.
Blessings Again Brother Germain,
My sister who is devout Christian sent this video to me yesterday. I thought of you and our discussions. Please take a moment to see the trailer intro of the series of teaching titled, "Too Long In the Sun." I do plan to order the series.
Blessings to you, Beloved Germain,
I sincerely appreciate your comment on my page. I do understand your passion for Roman dictates and your rebuke of those who speak differently. When I say we have been decieved by the Roman Catholic Church, I say this because they are the ones who founded Christianity. This is fact is not a debate. All who study theology in seminary school is keenly aware. So as our founders, they made many rules and practices that is not biblical but their Pope and leaders such as Constantine made the decision that this is how it shall be. Let us put Sabbath day on the back burner for a moment. Look at other Roman practices we still practice on this day.
1. Palm Sunday... Yes, Jesus was celebrated with palms only days before his crucificification but where did Palm Sunday come from... and the world now acknowledge what they started.
2. Easter Sunday... thank God many of us have now changed that word from Easter to Resurrection Sunday but think of all the years they had us worshipping a Pagan sun Goddess whose name was Ester and who had these mystical eggs... research this for yourself... you will be astounded at what we had our children doing... coloring eggs in remembrance of this goddess.
3. Look at Christmas... all bible scholars will say that this is not the birth date of Jesus. ...but what is wrong with this date is that it is the date of the great Egyptian Goddess...who was suppose to be a virgin and had the great sun God. Look at how many of us celebrate this day... tree and ornaments... all connected to pagan legends.
I could go on with this and I will do so in a blog to share with others but I want you to know that I do not fault you nor do I fault my parents for having me practice these things because we all did so out of ignorance to the great deception and love for our Father and his son, Jesus who you will learn true name is Yahweh's Salvation... Yahushua.
I speak these with love and humility. I pray for you and please pray for me for it was when I prayed for the person who first taught me these things that the Holy Spirit lead me to the truths.
Praise the Lord Bro. Germain
Thanks for the friendship; I too, am so very happy about being your friend. May the Lord continue to fill you with his knowledge and wisdom to share and enlighten his children. I look forward to learning a lot from you via reading your correspondances to the body of Christ; I thank God for you.
Love ya...
Tabi
Let me tell you that the Hebraic meaning of JESUS is
YESHUA. It means "GOD SAVES".
YEHSHUA THE MESSIAH (JESUS) IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEAVENLY FATHER!
YEHSHUA (JESUS) PRE-EXISTED AS YAHWEH, ELOHIM OF ISRAEL.
Please, let us read the article below:
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1)The Hebrew name for Jesus is Yeshua, a name found 27 times in the Hebrew Bible, so we know exactly what his name was. (The name is accented on the second syllable: ye-SHU-a). Yeshua is short for Yehoshua (= Joshua), which means Yahweh is salvation. The first trace of the name is found in connection with Joshua, the son of Nun, Moses’ assistant. Originally his name was Hoshea (Num. 13:8). The name Hoshea is derived from the hiphil stem of the Hebrew verb "yasha" [yod, shin, ayin] (BDB, 446; Gesenius, 435), which means "he saves, delivers." So the name Hoshea means "salvation" or "he saves, delivers." Moses changed his name to Hebrew "Yehoshua" [English: Joshua]:
"These are the names of the men Moses sent to explore the land. (Moses gave Hoshea son of Nun the name Joshua.)" Numbers 13:16
Moses coined this name by merging the name Hoshea with the prefix abbreviation "Yeho" of the divine name "YHWH" changing the meaning to "YHWH is salvation" or "YHWH saves, delivers" (BDB, 221; Gesenius, 386).
The name Yeshua ("Jeshua" in English translations), as we just noted, is the abbreviated form of Yehoshua ("Joshua") (BDB, 221; Gesenius, 433). We know that from the books of Ezra and Nehemiah:
"And all the assembly of those who had returned from the captivity made booths and lived in the booths, for from the days of Jeshua the son of Nun to that day the people of Israel had not done so. And there was very great rejoicing." Nehemiah 8:17 ESV
There was a high priest who was also named Jeshua:
"Then arose Jeshua the son of Jozadak, with his fellow priests, and Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel with his kinsmen, and they built the altar of the God of Israel, to offer burnt offerings on it, as it is written in the Law of Moses the man of God." Ezra 3:2
This same high priest is called Yehoshua ("Joshua") in Zechariah 3 and 6, affirming that the name Yeshua is the abbreviation of this very same name.
2) One must understand what the name Yeshua meant in the first century AD, and the NT tells us that. Because Yeshua is the short form of a name meaning "Yahweh is salvation," it is highly appropriate that this is the name of the Savior of the world, as Matthew 1:21 attests. In that text the angel of the Lord explained its meaning:
"She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus (Iesoun), because he will save his people from their sins."
Hence, God himself explained through his angel that Jesus’ name means "Savior," just as the NT emphatically indicates in many places:
"Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:11
"They said to the woman, ‘We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world." John 4:42
"God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel." Acts 5:31
"From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised." Acts 13:23
"For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." Ephesians 5:23
"But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ," Philippians 3:20
"but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel." 2 Timothy 1:10
"and at his appointed season he brought his word to light through the preaching entrusted to me by the command of God our Savior, To Titus, my true son in our common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior." Titus 1:3-4
"and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive. For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say ‘No’ to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good." Titus 2:10-14
"But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life." Titus 3:4-7
"Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours… and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:1, 11
"If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." 2 Peter 2:20
"But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." 2 Peter 3:18
"And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world." 1 John 4:14
As Messianic Jewish commentator Dr. David H. Stern says in reference to Matthew 1:21:
This verse is an example of a "semitism" (an allusion to Hebrew or Aramaic) brought over literally into the Greek text. It provides strong evidence in favor of the theory that there was a Hebrew or Aramaic oral or written tradition behind the extant Greek manuscripts, for only in Hebrew or Aramaic does the explanation here of Yeshua’s name make any sense; in Greek (or English) it explains nothing.
The Hebrew word for "he will save" is "yoshia‘," which has the same Hebrew root (yud-shin-‘ayin) as the name Yeshua (yud-shin-vav-‘ayin). Thus the Messiah’s name is explained on the basis of what he will do. Etymologically the name Yeshua is a contraction of the Hebrew name Y’hoshua (English "Joshua"), which means "YHVH saves." It is also the masculine form of the Hebrew word "yeshu‘ah," which means "salvation." …
According to Professors David Flusser and Shmuel Safrai, Orthodox Jews, "Yeshu" was how the name "Yeshua" was pronounced by Galilean Jews in the first century. We know from 26:73 below that Jews of Galil had a different dialect than those of Judea. According to Flusser (Jewish Sources in Early Christianity, p. 15) Galileans did not pronounce the Hebrew letter ‘ayin at the end of a word, much as Cockneys drop "h" at the beginning. That is, instead of saying "Ye-shoo-ah" they said "Yeh-shoo." Undoubtedly some people began spelling the name according to this pronunciation. (David H. Stern, Jewish New Testament Commentary [Clarksville, Maryland; Jewish New Testament Publications, 1996], pp. 4-5)
MENJ basically corroborates this when he writes:
Another name involving this root is "Jeshua`" (Joshua), which means ‘God + save’, just like many other Hebrew names, such as "Yehonatan" - ‘God gave’, "Yehoshafat" - ‘God judged’. In other words, "Yeshua`" is clearly related to a group of words meaning ’save’.
So Jeshua, which is the very same word Yeshua ("Jesus"), means ‘God + save’, or more precisely "Yahweh saves"!
3) There is additional evidence from the Greek version of the Hebrew Bible (Septuagint, LXX) confirming that this is the precise meaning of Jesus’ name. The Septuagint renders the Hebrew Yehoshua and Yeshua as Iesous, the Greek form of Jesus’ name:
"These are the names of the men whom Moses sent to spy out the land; and Moses called Ause [Hoshea] the son of Naue, Joshua (Iesoun)." Numbers 13:16 Brenton’s LXX
"… for the children of Israel had not done so from the days of Joshua (Iesou) the son of Naue until that day: and there was great joy." Nehemiah 8:17 Brenton’s
"Then stood up Jesus (Iesous) the son of Josedec, and his brethren the priests…" Ezra 3:2 Brenton’s
Lest MENJ complain about our appeal to the Septuagint we only need to remind him of his own praise of it:
A) First, we would like to introduce to the reader the Septuagint, which shall be the main reference in this discussion other than the Bible itself. Let us delve into the explanation about the Septuagint:. The word "Septuagint" is taken from the Latin word septuaginta which means "70". Therefore, this book is also known as "LXX", which simply means "70". We wish refer to The Hutchinson Educational Encyclopedia (HEE) about the Septuagint:
Septuagint n. a Greek version of the Old Testament including the Apocrypha (c.3rd cent. Before Christ), so called because, according to tradition, about 70 persons were employed on the translation. [Latin: septuaginta 70]
From the citation above, we can conclude that:
1) Septuagint is a Greek version of the Old Testament.
2) It (Septuagint) has already existed three centuries before Christ was born, and therefore it is authentic.
The question arises, why are we focusing our attention on the LXX in our discussion?
The answer is because it would make it easier for us to compare the original phrase of the relevant verses (like John 8:58 and Exodus 3:14) in Greek, since both the New Testament and LXX (Septuagint) were written in Greek. (http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/Bible/Commentary/i-am.htm; link is now defunct and article hasn’t been posted on the new version of MENJ’s site)
Besides, even Gesenius himself admitted that Joshua was rendered as Iesous in Greek.
In fact, the Apocryphal writing Sirach explicitly says that the name Joshua, Iesous, means one who saves:
"Joshua (Iesous) the son of Nun was mighty in war, and was the successor of Moses in prophesying. He became, in accordance with his name, a GREAT SAVIOR of God's elect," Sirach 46:1
4) There is another Hebrew word, y'shua, accented on the last syllable (y'-shu-A), and it means "salvation, deliverance." That is NOT the name of Jesus, but comes from the same root for salvation.
MENJ concludes with the following erroneous assertion:
If Jesus’ name was indeed, "Yeshua`" as Christians have claimed with no real evidence, it would only support the other theory that Jesus(P) was not resurrected but survived the crucifixion as God Almighty says in the Qur’an:
"That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not" [4:157]
RESPONSE:
MENJ makes the great mistake of trying to use the meaning of a name to disprove a verifiable historical fact--Jesus did die on the cross, and he arose from the dead. Apart from his blunder on the meaning of the name, what kind of scholarship is MENJ employing? What laws of logic or sound reasoning can justify such sophistry? Maybe this is the logic of the Quran or Allah, and MENJ is giving us a first hand look at what Islamic logic 101 is like?
More importantly, even if we were to argue that Jesus’ name doesn’t mean Savior, but refers to him being saved, this still doesn’t deny his death and resurrection. The Bible says that God did save Jesus from death, yet not by preventing him from going to the Cross but by raising him back to life:
"During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him." Hebrews 5:7-9
"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering. Both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers. He says, ‘I will declare your name to my brothers; in the presence of the congregation I will sing your praises.’ And again, ‘I will put my trust in him.’ And again he says, ‘Here am I, and the children God has given me.’ Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death." Hebrews 2:9-15
"May the God of peace, who through the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, equip you with everything good for doing his will, and may he work in us what is pleasing to him, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." Hebrews 13:20-21
"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. This man was handed over to you by God’s set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." Acts 2:22-24
Amen! We boldly and joyfully confess that Jesus did indeed die on the Cross for unworthy sinners and arose on the third day, thereby destroying Satan, sin, and death, ushering in glorious immortality. And for that we love and praise you for ever and ever, O Immortal and Sovereign King of the ages. Come Lord Jesus, come!
All scriptural quotations taken from the New International Version (NIV) of the Holy Bible, unless stated otherwise.
Acknowledgements
We would like to thank Dr. Michael L. Brown (www.icnministries.org, www.realmessiah.com) and Dr. James D. Price for all their input and comments, without which this paper would not have been possible. We pray that our risen Lord and immortal Savior Jesus Christ greatly bless and protect them along with their loved ones forever. Amen."
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Revelation 3:22
Be blessed in the precious name of our Lord and Almighty God JESUS-CHRIST!
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I wish a speedy recovery to your grandmother. I will pray for her.
May God sustain you!
See you next!
Blessings,
Bro. Germain
I have not been available over the past week due to a family emergency. My grandmother suffered a silent heart attack and then a subsequent stroke. I am her primary caretaker and as such have not been able to respond as I would otherwise desire. I will address your comments however when things begin to calm down and I can get my head back into the game.
Peace and love,
Dawn
You say that your ministry is specifically regarding the garden word.
Then, which kind of ministry you have?
Are you specialized in a cemetery (seminary), or a biblical institute?
Indeed, a true ministry that comes from God must be a full ministry, “For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit (John 3:34).
God gives the Spirit without limit. Amen!
Specializations and ecclesiastic degrees originate from the cemeteries (seminaries), the biblical institutes or the broken cisterns that cannot hold water (Jeremiah 2:13-14).
This is the reason why you fail to understand the true meaning of the garden word written in the book of Genesis.
I'm waiting for your answers to my questions in my study entitled:
"THE EMERGING GARDEN STORY DOCTRINE IS JUST A FABLE"
Moreover, I do invite you to search and read my message entitled:
"THE ORIGINAL SIN"
Then, you will know that the name "EVE" was not a reward from God given by a compelled Adam.
May God enlighten you!
Blessings,
Bro. Germain
There are many things people find it easy to say, as the landscape of history proves, but what you lack is proof and sound God Doctrine to back up your holocaust theory of the male tradition. You cannot prove it in word and merely repeating the same thing over and over again won't get you there.
Peace and love.
Dawn Davidson
Love ya...
Evangelist Tabitha
My sister who is devout Christian sent this video to me yesterday. I thought of you and our discussions. Please take a moment to see the trailer intro of the series of teaching titled, "Too Long In the Sun." I do plan to order the series.
I sincerely appreciate your comment on my page. I do understand your passion for Roman dictates and your rebuke of those who speak differently. When I say we have been decieved by the Roman Catholic Church, I say this because they are the ones who founded Christianity. This is fact is not a debate. All who study theology in seminary school is keenly aware. So as our founders, they made many rules and practices that is not biblical but their Pope and leaders such as Constantine made the decision that this is how it shall be. Let us put Sabbath day on the back burner for a moment. Look at other Roman practices we still practice on this day.
1. Palm Sunday... Yes, Jesus was celebrated with palms only days before his crucificification but where did Palm Sunday come from... and the world now acknowledge what they started.
2. Easter Sunday... thank God many of us have now changed that word from Easter to Resurrection Sunday but think of all the years they had us worshipping a Pagan sun Goddess whose name was Ester and who had these mystical eggs... research this for yourself... you will be astounded at what we had our children doing... coloring eggs in remembrance of this goddess.
3. Look at Christmas... all bible scholars will say that this is not the birth date of Jesus. ...but what is wrong with this date is that it is the date of the great Egyptian Goddess...who was suppose to be a virgin and had the great sun God. Look at how many of us celebrate this day... tree and ornaments... all connected to pagan legends.
I could go on with this and I will do so in a blog to share with others but I want you to know that I do not fault you nor do I fault my parents for having me practice these things because we all did so out of ignorance to the great deception and love for our Father and his son, Jesus who you will learn true name is Yahweh's Salvation... Yahushua.
I speak these with love and humility. I pray for you and please pray for me for it was when I prayed for the person who first taught me these things that the Holy Spirit lead me to the truths.
Love and Peace... Eemah.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~Enjoy your journey
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Thanks for the friendship; I too, am so very happy about being your friend. May the Lord continue to fill you with his knowledge and wisdom to share and enlighten his children. I look forward to learning a lot from you via reading your correspondances to the body of Christ; I thank God for you.
Love ya...
Tabi
I thank you for your contribution!
Unfortunately your answers are not convincing.
Let me tell you that the Hebraic meaning of JESUS is
YESHUA. It means "GOD SAVES".
YEHSHUA THE MESSIAH (JESUS) IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEAVENLY FATHER!
YEHSHUA (JESUS) PRE-EXISTED AS YAHWEH, ELOHIM OF ISRAEL.
Please, let us read the article below:
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1)The Hebrew name for Jesus is Yeshua, a name found 27 times in the Hebrew Bible, so we know exactly what his name was. (The name is accented on the second syllable: ye-SHU-a). Yeshua is short for Yehoshua (= Joshua), which means Yahweh is salvation. The first trace of the name is found in connection with Joshua, the son of Nun, Moses’ assistant. Originally his name was Hoshea (Num. 13:8). The name Hoshea is derived from the hiphil stem of the Hebrew verb "yasha" [yod, shin, ayin] (BDB, 446; Gesenius, 435), which means "he saves, delivers." So the name Hoshea means "salvation" or "he saves, delivers." Moses changed his name to Hebrew "Yehoshua" [English: Joshua]:
"These are the names of the men Moses sent to explore the land. (Moses gave Hoshea son of Nun the name Joshua.)" Numbers 13:16
Moses coined this name by merging the name Hoshea with the prefix abbreviation "Yeho" of the divine name "YHWH" changing the meaning to "YHWH is salvation" or "YHWH saves, delivers" (BDB, 221; Gesenius, 386).
The name Yeshua ("Jeshua" in English translations), as we just noted, is the abbreviated form of Yehoshua ("Joshua") (BDB, 221; Gesenius, 433). We know that from the books of Ezra and Nehemiah:
"And all the assembly of those who had returned from the captivity made booths and lived in the booths, for from the days of Jeshua the son of Nun to that day the people of Israel had not done so. And there was very great rejoicing." Nehemiah 8:17 ESV
There was a high priest who was also named Jeshua:
"Then arose Jeshua the son of Jozadak, with his fellow priests, and Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel with his kinsmen, and they built the altar of the God of Israel, to offer burnt offerings on it, as it is written in the Law of Moses the man of God." Ezra 3:2
This same high priest is called Yehoshua ("Joshua") in Zechariah 3 and 6, affirming that the name Yeshua is the abbreviation of this very same name.
2) One must understand what the name Yeshua meant in the first century AD, and the NT tells us that. Because Yeshua is the short form of a name meaning "Yahweh is salvation," it is highly appropriate that this is the name of the Savior of the world, as Matthew 1:21 attests. In that text the angel of the Lord explained its meaning:
"She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus (Iesoun), because he will save his people from their sins."
Hence, God himself explained through his angel that Jesus’ name means "Savior," just as the NT emphatically indicates in many places:
"Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:11
"They said to the woman, ‘We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world." John 4:42
"God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel." Acts 5:31
"From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised." Acts 13:23
"For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." Ephesians 5:23
"But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ," Philippians 3:20
"but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel." 2 Timothy 1:10
"and at his appointed season he brought his word to light through the preaching entrusted to me by the command of God our Savior, To Titus, my true son in our common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior." Titus 1:3-4
"and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive. For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say ‘No’ to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good." Titus 2:10-14
"But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life." Titus 3:4-7
"Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours… and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:1, 11
"If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." 2 Peter 2:20
"But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." 2 Peter 3:18
"And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world." 1 John 4:14
As Messianic Jewish commentator Dr. David H. Stern says in reference to Matthew 1:21:
This verse is an example of a "semitism" (an allusion to Hebrew or Aramaic) brought over literally into the Greek text. It provides strong evidence in favor of the theory that there was a Hebrew or Aramaic oral or written tradition behind the extant Greek manuscripts, for only in Hebrew or Aramaic does the explanation here of Yeshua’s name make any sense; in Greek (or English) it explains nothing.
The Hebrew word for "he will save" is "yoshia‘," which has the same Hebrew root (yud-shin-‘ayin) as the name Yeshua (yud-shin-vav-‘ayin). Thus the Messiah’s name is explained on the basis of what he will do. Etymologically the name Yeshua is a contraction of the Hebrew name Y’hoshua (English "Joshua"), which means "YHVH saves." It is also the masculine form of the Hebrew word "yeshu‘ah," which means "salvation." …
According to Professors David Flusser and Shmuel Safrai, Orthodox Jews, "Yeshu" was how the name "Yeshua" was pronounced by Galilean Jews in the first century. We know from 26:73 below that Jews of Galil had a different dialect than those of Judea. According to Flusser (Jewish Sources in Early Christianity, p. 15) Galileans did not pronounce the Hebrew letter ‘ayin at the end of a word, much as Cockneys drop "h" at the beginning. That is, instead of saying "Ye-shoo-ah" they said "Yeh-shoo." Undoubtedly some people began spelling the name according to this pronunciation. (David H. Stern, Jewish New Testament Commentary [Clarksville, Maryland; Jewish New Testament Publications, 1996], pp. 4-5)
MENJ basically corroborates this when he writes:
Another name involving this root is "Jeshua`" (Joshua), which means ‘God + save’, just like many other Hebrew names, such as "Yehonatan" - ‘God gave’, "Yehoshafat" - ‘God judged’. In other words, "Yeshua`" is clearly related to a group of words meaning ’save’.
So Jeshua, which is the very same word Yeshua ("Jesus"), means ‘God + save’, or more precisely "Yahweh saves"!
3) There is additional evidence from the Greek version of the Hebrew Bible (Septuagint, LXX) confirming that this is the precise meaning of Jesus’ name. The Septuagint renders the Hebrew Yehoshua and Yeshua as Iesous, the Greek form of Jesus’ name:
"These are the names of the men whom Moses sent to spy out the land; and Moses called Ause [Hoshea] the son of Naue, Joshua (Iesoun)." Numbers 13:16 Brenton’s LXX
"… for the children of Israel had not done so from the days of Joshua (Iesou) the son of Naue until that day: and there was great joy." Nehemiah 8:17 Brenton’s
"Then stood up Jesus (Iesous) the son of Josedec, and his brethren the priests…" Ezra 3:2 Brenton’s
Lest MENJ complain about our appeal to the Septuagint we only need to remind him of his own praise of it:
A) First, we would like to introduce to the reader the Septuagint, which shall be the main reference in this discussion other than the Bible itself. Let us delve into the explanation about the Septuagint:. The word "Septuagint" is taken from the Latin word septuaginta which means "70". Therefore, this book is also known as "LXX", which simply means "70". We wish refer to The Hutchinson Educational Encyclopedia (HEE) about the Septuagint:
Septuagint n. a Greek version of the Old Testament including the Apocrypha (c.3rd cent. Before Christ), so called because, according to tradition, about 70 persons were employed on the translation. [Latin: septuaginta 70]
From the citation above, we can conclude that:
1) Septuagint is a Greek version of the Old Testament.
2) It (Septuagint) has already existed three centuries before Christ was born, and therefore it is authentic.
The question arises, why are we focusing our attention on the LXX in our discussion?
The answer is because it would make it easier for us to compare the original phrase of the relevant verses (like John 8:58 and Exodus 3:14) in Greek, since both the New Testament and LXX (Septuagint) were written in Greek. (http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/Bible/Commentary/i-am.htm; link is now defunct and article hasn’t been posted on the new version of MENJ’s site)
Besides, even Gesenius himself admitted that Joshua was rendered as Iesous in Greek.
In fact, the Apocryphal writing Sirach explicitly says that the name Joshua, Iesous, means one who saves:
"Joshua (Iesous) the son of Nun was mighty in war, and was the successor of Moses in prophesying. He became, in accordance with his name, a GREAT SAVIOR of God's elect," Sirach 46:1
4) There is another Hebrew word, y'shua, accented on the last syllable (y'-shu-A), and it means "salvation, deliverance." That is NOT the name of Jesus, but comes from the same root for salvation.
MENJ concludes with the following erroneous assertion:
If Jesus’ name was indeed, "Yeshua`" as Christians have claimed with no real evidence, it would only support the other theory that Jesus(P) was not resurrected but survived the crucifixion as God Almighty says in the Qur’an:
"That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not" [4:157]
RESPONSE:
MENJ makes the great mistake of trying to use the meaning of a name to disprove a verifiable historical fact--Jesus did die on the cross, and he arose from the dead. Apart from his blunder on the meaning of the name, what kind of scholarship is MENJ employing? What laws of logic or sound reasoning can justify such sophistry? Maybe this is the logic of the Quran or Allah, and MENJ is giving us a first hand look at what Islamic logic 101 is like?
More importantly, even if we were to argue that Jesus’ name doesn’t mean Savior, but refers to him being saved, this still doesn’t deny his death and resurrection. The Bible says that God did save Jesus from death, yet not by preventing him from going to the Cross but by raising him back to life:
"During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him." Hebrews 5:7-9
"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering. Both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers. He says, ‘I will declare your name to my brothers; in the presence of the congregation I will sing your praises.’ And again, ‘I will put my trust in him.’ And again he says, ‘Here am I, and the children God has given me.’ Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death." Hebrews 2:9-15
"May the God of peace, who through the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, equip you with everything good for doing his will, and may he work in us what is pleasing to him, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." Hebrews 13:20-21
"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. This man was handed over to you by God’s set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." Acts 2:22-24
Amen! We boldly and joyfully confess that Jesus did indeed die on the Cross for unworthy sinners and arose on the third day, thereby destroying Satan, sin, and death, ushering in glorious immortality. And for that we love and praise you for ever and ever, O Immortal and Sovereign King of the ages. Come Lord Jesus, come!
All scriptural quotations taken from the New International Version (NIV) of the Holy Bible, unless stated otherwise.
Acknowledgements
We would like to thank Dr. Michael L. Brown (www.icnministries.org, www.realmessiah.com) and Dr. James D. Price for all their input and comments, without which this paper would not have been possible. We pray that our risen Lord and immortal Savior Jesus Christ greatly bless and protect them along with their loved ones forever. Amen."
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Revelation 3:22
Be blessed in the precious name of our Lord and Almighty God JESUS-CHRIST!
Bro. Germain
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Please, go to the forum. Take time to read my message line by line and answer my questions...
Then, we will start a new discussion about the Rapture.
Blessings,
Brother Germain!
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