Feminism in the "body of Christ"
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer [allow] not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." —1st Timothy 2:11-12
Feminism is of the Devil. One subject you'll never hear a woman preacher preach about is feminism. As with the Homosexual Movement, the Feminist Movement has changed the Word of God into a lie, "Who changed the truth of God into a lie..." (Romans 1:25). Feminists have even fabricated their own Feminist Theology. This is rebellion against God. Women are Scripturally forbidden to be pastors, preachers or leaders over men in any capacity. The average woman today is a feminist in her philosophies. This is tragic and a curse upon America. This is why the sin of abortion is commonplace. This is why the sin of divorce is so prevalent. One sin begets another. Women preachers and feminism are synonymous.
Women have equal human rights, are of equal worth, and are not inferior to men in any way; BUT, woman do not have a right to usurp authority over men. Feminism DEMANDS equality in the area of authority, and cries "inequality" if they don't get it. This is what Lucifer said in Isaiah 14:14... "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Lucifer just wanted EQUALITY, wanting to be "like" the most high. Feminists claim they are simply asking for equality, to be "like" men in authority. Today, America is infested with women in authoritative power positions, and America is going to Hell because of it. Homosexuality is commonplace, abortion has become completely shameless, pornography is considered normal, divorce is highly encouraged nowadays, etc. Sin! Sin! Sin! Feminism is a Trojan Horse sin, that brings with it a slew of godlessness and woeful evils. Feminism and the Word of God are DIAMETRICALLY opposed to each other!
Meet Carter Heyward— an Episcopalian priest, a militant feminist, a lesbian who performs same-sex marriages, and a promoter of child sacrifice through abortion...
"If women were in charge, abortion would be a sacrament, an occasion of deep and serious and sacred meaning."
—Carter Heyward, Massacre of Innocence, from a newsletter published by the National Abortion Federation.
Do you see what happens when women enter the pulpit? It was Solomon's wives who turned his heart away from the Lord, and introduced child-sacrifice to Molech once again in Israel (1st Kings 11:4-8).
One of the best worst examples of Christian Feministhood is Catherine Booth (wife of Salvation Army founder, William Booth). According to her biography, Catherine Booth was an avowed feminist. The Bible says, "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft..." (1st Samuel 15:23). Feminism is a horrible sin! Catherine Booth objected to the idea that women are the "weaker sex," which according to the Holy Bible they are (1st Peter 3:7). Booth was a staunch feminist, who publicly criticized her husband, yoked together with unbelievers, and shamed the name of Christ. She was a disgrace to the name of Christ.
It was not until 1860 that Catherine first started to preach. One day in Gateshead Bethseda Chapel, a strange compulsion seized her and she felt she must rise and speak. Later she recalled how an inner voice taunted her: "You will look like a fool and have nothing to say". Catherine decided that this was the Devil's voice: "That's just the point," she retorted, "I have never yet been willing to be a fool for Christ. Now I will be one." It was the Devil's voice alright, that seized her and compelled her to rise and speak, because the Bible states... "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1st Timothy 2:12). Catherine Booth, and rebellious women preachers today like Melissa Scott, have twisted the Scriptures in an attempt to justify their rebellion. God calls men to preach, NOT women.
Women are not to "usurp authority" over men in any capacity, at any time or in any place. Also, the word "church" is not mentioned in 1st Timothy chapter two. Thus, 1st Timothy 2:11-12 applies in the home, and in society in general. Women are to take a back seat and let the men drive. Meddling feminists are destroying churches, marriages and homes all across America. Say what you will, feminism is rebellion of the Devil, and it has infested many of our churches and homes today. Feminism is more deadly than arsenic, the AIDS virus and the Bubonic Plague all combined. The same fool that will laugh at what I just said is likely also a supporter of abortion rights. Abortion has killed far more people than arsenic, the AIDS virus and the Bubonic Plague ever have. It is estimated worldwide that 400,000,000 children have been murdered by abortion!!! Woe unto the wicked!
Women are to Keep Silent in Matters of Authority
What is meant by: "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection"?
It simply means that women have different roles than men in the church, in the home and in society. Men and women are inherently equal in worth and dignity; but we do not have the same roles. Even the men in the church do not have equal roles. All are commanded to submit to the rule of the church elders.
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection."
"Silence" or "quietly" is the Greek word Hesuchia, which means...
"To rest, to cease from labor. To lead a quiet life, said of those who are not running hither and thither, but stay at home and mind their business."
Thayer’s English Greek Lexicon of the New Testament
The same Greek word "Hesuchia" is also used in 2nd Thessalonians 3:12...
"Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread."
Paul is simply saying that while we're at work, we are not the boss, we are the employees. That puts us into a submissive role. At work we are equal with others as human beings, having equal rights; but we don’t possess an equal role with the boss. The boss is in charge, and we are to submit. This is an excellent illustration of the women's role in marriage, the church and society. There is nothing inferior or demeaning about a wife obeying her husband, anymore than an employee obeying a boss to keep his or her job. The same is true in a church.
Feminist Paranoia, Hatred of Masculine Authority and Insane Laws
The Biblical teaching of womanly submission is vastly different than the monstrous image that feminists paint of authoritative husbands and pastors. If you don't do your job at work, you are going to get written up or fired. It should be no different in the home. A husband who is married to a rebellious wife has no recourse of action nowadays, because society has gone insane with "Domestic Abuse" laws. A husband legally can't rebuke, scold or discipline his wife in any manner, except to beg her to do her job at home. So then who is going to correct her when she fails to care for the children? ... when she fails to clean the house? ... when she doesn't care about the children's safety? Child Protection Services? You're a total idiot if that's your solution. A psychologist? A shrink will just send a struggling wife to a psychiatrist for drugs that'll totally debilitate her. Good luck finding a church that'll care about your family. I am just being frankly honest. Despite the thousands of excellent churches in America, many people are finding it increasingly difficult to find a decent church that believes the King James Bible, isn't money-hungry and goes soulwinning. Most pastors today are simply interested in making a living, and continually pressure their members for more money.
Men are prohibited in America from commanding their homes anymore. In most places in America today, police are required by law to remove the husband from the home, by force if need be, merely on an accusation by the wife that he was abusive towards her. After the O.J. Simpson murder trials, feminists saw their chance to push from wide-sweeping changes to our nations laws, now commonly referred to as the "OJ laws."
How does all this fit in with women preachers? In many ways. As America has turned apostate, feminism has crept into our churches. As a consequence, woman have entered the pulpit in alarming numbers, bringing lesbianism and a host of other sins into the church. The sin of rebellion is a Trojan Horse sin. In other words, when a woman rebels against God by usurping authority over men, a host of other sins follow. Women must accept their role in the body of Christ as those who learn "in silence (quietness) with all subjection." Women preachers are repulsive. It's just not right, ethically or Biblically. Wherever you find a church with a woman in the pulpit, you'll find a liberally-minded church that is infested with doctrinal heresies. This is why God told women to shut-up, and for men to do the preaching.
Does the fact that Satan chose Eve for this first temptation imply that women as such are spiritually weaker than men? Do they have some kind of inherent weakness that makes them more vulnerable to temptation and sin, as some think 1st Peter 3:7 is suggesting? (being the weaker vessel)
Why Did Satan Choose Eve?
The question of why Satan chose Eve as the object of his temptation is made all the more relevant by Paul’s remark that "it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into transgression" (1 Tim. 2:14) This text does mean something.
Does it mean that Eve was chosen because Satan considered her more deceivable, more vulnerable than Adam? Was Eve the "weaker vessel" - emotionally or intellectually?
The Bible does not reveal Satan’s motive for beginning with Eve. It just records the fact that Eve was the first to be tempted and deceived, and the first to sin. We are not told whether it was part of a deliberate strategy of Satan, or if his choice was just random. But the fact that we do not know for sure why Satan chose Eve does not negate the force of 1st Timothy 2:14, which says that Eve’s being the one who was deceived does have something to do with women’s being prohibited from teaching men and having authority over men in the New Testament church.
will continue..By David J. Stewart
Feminism is of the Devil. One subject you'll never hear a woman preacher preach about is feminism. As with the Homosexual Movement, the Feminist Movement has changed the Word of God into a lie, "Who changed the truth of God into a lie..." (Romans 1:25). Feminists have even fabricated their own Feminist Theology. This is rebellion against God. Women are Scripturally forbidden to be pastors, preachers or leaders over men in any capacity. The average woman today is a feminist in her philosophies. This is tragic and a curse upon America. This is why the sin of abortion is commonplace. This is why the sin of divorce is so prevalent. One sin begets another. Women preachers and feminism are synonymous.
Women have equal human rights, are of equal worth, and are not inferior to men in any way; BUT, woman do not have a right to usurp authority over men. Feminism DEMANDS equality in the area of authority, and cries "inequality" if they don't get it. This is what Lucifer said in Isaiah 14:14... "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Lucifer just wanted EQUALITY, wanting to be "like" the most high. Feminists claim they are simply asking for equality, to be "like" men in authority. Today, America is infested with women in authoritative power positions, and America is going to Hell because of it. Homosexuality is commonplace, abortion has become completely shameless, pornography is considered normal, divorce is highly encouraged nowadays, etc. Sin! Sin! Sin! Feminism is a Trojan Horse sin, that brings with it a slew of godlessness and woeful evils. Feminism and the Word of God are DIAMETRICALLY opposed to each other!
Meet Carter Heyward— an Episcopalian priest, a militant feminist, a lesbian who performs same-sex marriages, and a promoter of child sacrifice through abortion...
"If women were in charge, abortion would be a sacrament, an occasion of deep and serious and sacred meaning."
—Carter Heyward, Massacre of Innocence, from a newsletter published by the National Abortion Federation.
Do you see what happens when women enter the pulpit? It was Solomon's wives who turned his heart away from the Lord, and introduced child-sacrifice to Molech once again in Israel (1st Kings 11:4-8).
One of the best worst examples of Christian Feministhood is Catherine Booth (wife of Salvation Army founder, William Booth). According to her biography, Catherine Booth was an avowed feminist. The Bible says, "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft..." (1st Samuel 15:23). Feminism is a horrible sin! Catherine Booth objected to the idea that women are the "weaker sex," which according to the Holy Bible they are (1st Peter 3:7). Booth was a staunch feminist, who publicly criticized her husband, yoked together with unbelievers, and shamed the name of Christ. She was a disgrace to the name of Christ.
It was not until 1860 that Catherine first started to preach. One day in Gateshead Bethseda Chapel, a strange compulsion seized her and she felt she must rise and speak. Later she recalled how an inner voice taunted her: "You will look like a fool and have nothing to say". Catherine decided that this was the Devil's voice: "That's just the point," she retorted, "I have never yet been willing to be a fool for Christ. Now I will be one." It was the Devil's voice alright, that seized her and compelled her to rise and speak, because the Bible states... "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1st Timothy 2:12). Catherine Booth, and rebellious women preachers today like Melissa Scott, have twisted the Scriptures in an attempt to justify their rebellion. God calls men to preach, NOT women.
Women are not to "usurp authority" over men in any capacity, at any time or in any place. Also, the word "church" is not mentioned in 1st Timothy chapter two. Thus, 1st Timothy 2:11-12 applies in the home, and in society in general. Women are to take a back seat and let the men drive. Meddling feminists are destroying churches, marriages and homes all across America. Say what you will, feminism is rebellion of the Devil, and it has infested many of our churches and homes today. Feminism is more deadly than arsenic, the AIDS virus and the Bubonic Plague all combined. The same fool that will laugh at what I just said is likely also a supporter of abortion rights. Abortion has killed far more people than arsenic, the AIDS virus and the Bubonic Plague ever have. It is estimated worldwide that 400,000,000 children have been murdered by abortion!!! Woe unto the wicked!
Women are to Keep Silent in Matters of Authority
What is meant by: "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection"?
It simply means that women have different roles than men in the church, in the home and in society. Men and women are inherently equal in worth and dignity; but we do not have the same roles. Even the men in the church do not have equal roles. All are commanded to submit to the rule of the church elders.
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection."
"Silence" or "quietly" is the Greek word Hesuchia, which means...
"To rest, to cease from labor. To lead a quiet life, said of those who are not running hither and thither, but stay at home and mind their business."
Thayer’s English Greek Lexicon of the New Testament
The same Greek word "Hesuchia" is also used in 2nd Thessalonians 3:12...
"Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread."
Paul is simply saying that while we're at work, we are not the boss, we are the employees. That puts us into a submissive role. At work we are equal with others as human beings, having equal rights; but we don’t possess an equal role with the boss. The boss is in charge, and we are to submit. This is an excellent illustration of the women's role in marriage, the church and society. There is nothing inferior or demeaning about a wife obeying her husband, anymore than an employee obeying a boss to keep his or her job. The same is true in a church.
Feminist Paranoia, Hatred of Masculine Authority and Insane Laws
The Biblical teaching of womanly submission is vastly different than the monstrous image that feminists paint of authoritative husbands and pastors. If you don't do your job at work, you are going to get written up or fired. It should be no different in the home. A husband who is married to a rebellious wife has no recourse of action nowadays, because society has gone insane with "Domestic Abuse" laws. A husband legally can't rebuke, scold or discipline his wife in any manner, except to beg her to do her job at home. So then who is going to correct her when she fails to care for the children? ... when she fails to clean the house? ... when she doesn't care about the children's safety? Child Protection Services? You're a total idiot if that's your solution. A psychologist? A shrink will just send a struggling wife to a psychiatrist for drugs that'll totally debilitate her. Good luck finding a church that'll care about your family. I am just being frankly honest. Despite the thousands of excellent churches in America, many people are finding it increasingly difficult to find a decent church that believes the King James Bible, isn't money-hungry and goes soulwinning. Most pastors today are simply interested in making a living, and continually pressure their members for more money.
Men are prohibited in America from commanding their homes anymore. In most places in America today, police are required by law to remove the husband from the home, by force if need be, merely on an accusation by the wife that he was abusive towards her. After the O.J. Simpson murder trials, feminists saw their chance to push from wide-sweeping changes to our nations laws, now commonly referred to as the "OJ laws."
How does all this fit in with women preachers? In many ways. As America has turned apostate, feminism has crept into our churches. As a consequence, woman have entered the pulpit in alarming numbers, bringing lesbianism and a host of other sins into the church. The sin of rebellion is a Trojan Horse sin. In other words, when a woman rebels against God by usurping authority over men, a host of other sins follow. Women must accept their role in the body of Christ as those who learn "in silence (quietness) with all subjection." Women preachers are repulsive. It's just not right, ethically or Biblically. Wherever you find a church with a woman in the pulpit, you'll find a liberally-minded church that is infested with doctrinal heresies. This is why God told women to shut-up, and for men to do the preaching.
Does the fact that Satan chose Eve for this first temptation imply that women as such are spiritually weaker than men? Do they have some kind of inherent weakness that makes them more vulnerable to temptation and sin, as some think 1st Peter 3:7 is suggesting? (being the weaker vessel)
Why Did Satan Choose Eve?
The question of why Satan chose Eve as the object of his temptation is made all the more relevant by Paul’s remark that "it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into transgression" (1 Tim. 2:14) This text does mean something.
Does it mean that Eve was chosen because Satan considered her more deceivable, more vulnerable than Adam? Was Eve the "weaker vessel" - emotionally or intellectually?
The Bible does not reveal Satan’s motive for beginning with Eve. It just records the fact that Eve was the first to be tempted and deceived, and the first to sin. We are not told whether it was part of a deliberate strategy of Satan, or if his choice was just random. But the fact that we do not know for sure why Satan chose Eve does not negate the force of 1st Timothy 2:14, which says that Eve’s being the one who was deceived does have something to do with women’s being prohibited from teaching men and having authority over men in the New Testament church.
will continue..By David J. Stewart
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Permalink Reply by newview on
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..."All scripture is from God, and we cannont nor should not read more into than what is already there. But wait a minute if that is true then what about those scriptures that say that slaves should obey thier masters? Or when Paul sends Onesimus (a run-a-way slave) back to Philemon (his master). Does this mean that God supports slavery?
Does the bible condone slavery? It sure does say that it is wrong?..."
Oh YEAH!
We are to be servants/slaves of Christ, We are to be each other's servants/slaves but here is where Jesus turns it on its head. Those who have servants/slaves must serve those slaves because we are all God's children. So as you see we must all willingly SUBMIT to being a servant/slave because we willingly submit to God.
I am sure that when that slave went back - it was a NEW DAY for him....Hahahahahaaha --->If Philemon did like he was supposed to do - which was to treat him with love and kindness.
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“ I think you miss the point…”
No I got it :-)
…These scriptures that support slavery were used to keep African slaves in check while serving (against thier will) in America…
Yeah, you are right.
…We'll never know whether or not Philemon treated Onesimus with loving kindness or not. But we do know that people can (and history has proven it, time and time again) people will take what is recorded in the scriptures and use it to oppress people…
Yes, evil men will take any of the scriptures to twist it to their own benefit.
…Yes, Jesus turn these scriptures on its head. BUT how does that help the millions of people in different parts of the world serving as slaves while not being treated with loving kindness by thier masters but instead receive harsh punishment, rape and unimaginable things…
Evil men that don’t have Christ are oppressing and raping and murdering peoples around this world and they are on their way to a Christ-less grave. However that’s why God sent the Messiah. And that’s why the Messiah sent his apostles to teach the Gospel - so that men might be saved and live in Christ and in turn love their neighbor and show what right living is.
…And in response to your earlier post, I never claim not to be speaking in my flesh, but also never claimed that I was speaking in the spirit either. I very well could be but then on the other hand I very well could be speaking from my flesh. Are you refuting what I am saying because you feel that God's Spirit is telling you that I am wrong…
I am refuting what you are saying because the Holy Scriptures gave clear instruction on what God wants.
...or is it a matter of not fitting what you believe and God hasn't said anything?…
What you are saying does not fit what I believe because it refutes the Holy Scriptures - and those scriptures that you are trying to buck is EXACTLY what God is saying.
…Scriptures are filled with examples of unconventional beliefs that were from God…
That’s so true for today because a woman not being permitted to preach or teach or pastor men does ‘not’ conform to accepted rules or standards of our culture.
…Much of what Jesus said and did went against the traditiional thinking of the church…
You are so correct - that’s why His holy apostles wrote epistles for the church to follow even until the end of the world - and we had better take heed and follow the holy scriptures.
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Permalink Reply by Preacher on
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THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURE THAT SUPPORT SLAVERY...thoes who know God knows his word....
GB
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Servant: a slave, bondman, man of servile condition
We are servants/slaves to Christ and we are to be servants/slaves to one another.
In perfection - what is supposed to happen --. those being under subjection should willingly submit and those that are in authority are to treat those under subjection like Paul wrote to the slave master:
Philemon 1
15Perhaps the reason he was separated from you for a little while was that you might have him back for good— 16no longer as a slave, but better than a slave, as a dear brother. He is very dear to me but even dearer to you, both as a man and as a brother in the Lord.
You see Onesimus willingly went home when he found Christ and came under His authority.
And if Philemon was really under the authority of Christ he would indeed do as Paul said and treat that slave as a brother.
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SLAVES obey your master...you work everyday you have a boss that you obey...thats what God is referring to back then if you worked for someone and was paid..you were still looked at as a slave of that person...or a servant
God was not talking about slavery...there would be no need to tell a real slave to obey his master...the master had a way of making them obey :)... so again a misinterpretation of scripture on you part...
GB
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Brother every man is under someones authority that is why even the most powerful king on earth is under God's authority.
And the fact that Christianity spread throughout the world (thank God) - those bosses treat us more like brethren than slaves. It was the doctrine of Christianity - that you treat those that are under you better than a piece of dirt - you treat them how you would treat your brother. It is a blessing that those bosses/masters have a different mindset and we have laws against forced servitude.
First sermons were preached - you remember men like Wilburforce of England - and lets not forget the honorable Quakers up north. And then certain Christian men in the south began freeing their slaves because of the teachings in scriptures of how someone under the authority of Jesus Christ will treat their servants.
Then of course we had a president that went forth with the Civil War and thank God the North won. For whatever reason that war was waged - in the end - slaves were freed.
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Brother McPherson - you said all of that to say what?
Women can usurp aurthority over the man, that she should not be in submission to her husband, that she teach the men in the assembly?
What are you saying, Brother?
Because if you are saying that we can ignore the instructions of the bible from the pen of Paul then - we can start chopping other NT scriptures as well.
I'd be afraid of a knowledge that puffs me up to the point that the holy apostle is incorrect but the effeminate men and masculine women are wise unto salvation.
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"...Just because Paul wrote it does not make it true..."
In THIS instance - what Paul wrote was from the mind of God.
Paul let you know when he was speaking from his own conclusions or as a mere man.
"...The bible has shown us whether countless people have obeyed God to the letter and turn right around and go against God. David, Abraham, Moses, etc. Is it not possible for the "holy apostle" to have done the same?..."
David and Abraham and Moses were not indwelled by the mind of Christ - the NT church is.
But as I stated before, Paul lets us know when its from the mind of God and when he has his own personal thought on a particular matter. Additionally Jesus said those that hear Him would hear His holy apostles.
"...Now if this is true, would that take authority away from the bible. Not at all!..."
To say the apostle's instruction (which were inspired by God) is not necessary for the church IS taking authority away from the bible.
That’s madness. Thats dangerous.
"...To do otherwise, seems offly close to exaulting the "holy apostle" rather than a HOLY GOD..."
No, I exalt God’s word by obeying what His holy apostle wrote to His church.
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Obviously the book is erroneous...and the author doesn't understand scripture...there's lots of books like that Brother...we have to let the bible be the authority alone..there is no way ossible for Paul to be wrong, because all scripture came from the mouth of God...not Paul...I've explained this very thing in my last response how Satan says has God said? to cause further doubt in the mids of thoes who are not of God...I guess God speaks of sending these a strong delusion...
GB
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The scripture says slave...but it is not referring to the kind of slave as you think...Jesus said Satan divided against Satan...causes his kingdom to fall...For God to condone slavery would show that he's divided against himself...God free's the slave's of Egypt...when God speaks of slaves obeying their masters he's referring to jobs...
Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ;
lord, master
Original Word: κύριος
Transliteration: kurios
Phonetic Spelling: (koo'-ree-os)
Short Definition: God
Word Origin
from kuros (authority)
By obeying thoes in authority over you...you are obeying God..THE WORD SLAVE IN THAT CONTEXT MEANS SERVANT...
GB
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Permalink Reply by Evangelist Altha Fugett on
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Bro McPherson, I applaud you, the time might have come to cast no longer your pearls?
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