Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?

Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.

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The question is: even if we leave the bible alone and appeal to common sense what on planet earth will render the idea that a man should ram his p....of...sh.. into another man a sensible idea? This insane phenomenon was only given credence by the foul, twisted and insane western media of the 20th century. Pastors , today who are preaching homosexuality have no foundation into biblical times. Their foundation is very shallow, originating from the later part of the 21st century. These are not pastors, they are evil beings planted in the church by satan.
The more they try to sound right, the more evil and insane the appear. We dont even need the bible on this topic. common sense is enough and if a living /breathing person can not understand why another man's asshole is not designed for sex then we know this problem is beyond human solution. God will solve it in His own time when He has them condemned to hell.
Aren't there women who are homosexual? Why are you so obsessed with anal sex?
I am not obsessed with anything but what is not right in the sight of God and has been positively denounced by scripture.I do not believe that a woman should lick her fellow woman's bacteria - infested cloaca with her tongue. It is insane, horrific, degrading, inhuman, sick, psyco and so dammed, the thought of it makes me sick to the stomach. Only people colonized by dirty demons have no problem conceiving such a scenario.
"...I know your agenda is to perpetuate your bigoted opinion, which you have ignorantly build on your misguided understanding of the Bible. But please... study to shew yourselves approved rightly dividing the word of the LORD..."

Bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Brother, thats just the way it is.
If the word of God says a thing is abominable then we are to believe that it should be our opinion that that thing is indeed abominable.
And as followers of Christ we should be intolerant of any differing creed or opinion.
Especially when its so clearly laid out in the bible for us.

When you study God's word - what does it tell you about homosexuality?

Additionally - why would sodomites repent of their perversions if NO ONE tells them what God thinks homosexuality.

Are you as lienient to cleptomaniacs - who have not 'chosen' to steal but are compelled to?
Are you as lienient to drunks - who have not chosen to be drunks but are compelled to drink all day long?


"...But what does this have to do with why gay adoption is wrong? There are multiplied thousands of adoptions that hae taken place by gay men and women that have glorious results..."

What are the glorious results? How do you know how anything has turned out in the lives of those raised in homes where men were frolicking around in gross sin with one another?
Or women are playing this game in their minds that the woman she is sleeping with is her man?

But I do understand where you are coming from, Brother.
You only speak this way because the society in which you live in is accepting these perverted lifestyles more and more...You would not have been posting this stuff ten years ago (not openly - no one knows what you have written secretly).

A wise person said - what the world does one year - the church will be doing it in the next decade.
How can you speak as if sodomites adopting innocent children is a good thing?
How about prostitutes? Some prostitutes have hearts of gold.
But would you place children in their homes to be raised by them?
You dont think that sodomites are dysfunctional? And their homes would be dysfunctional?

Please tell me that you dont really pastor people about sexual sins and that the title you have is just for show on this board.
"Brother, thats just the way it is.
If the word of God says a thing is abominable then we are to believe that it should be our opinion that that thing is indeed abominable"

Do some study on abomination and you will find that how we use that word is far different from the original use. If we use that word correctly we will see that how we have used it is way off, especially when it comes to the homosexual we find that it is more of a ritual abomination for the pagans engaged in same sex temple sexual rituals. This has nothing to do with homosexuality or sexual orientation.

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"And as followers of Christ we should be intolerant of any differing creed or opinion.
Especially when its so clearly laid out in the bible for us"

Define clearly.

"When you study God's word - what does it tell you about homosexuality?"

Not what you are saying if you really study God's Word.

"Additionally - why would sodomites repent of their perversions if NO ONE tells them what God thinks homosexuality."

They already know what you think, and everybody else. They have been told what God thinks but He told them the truth in the beginning when He made them.

"Are you as lienient to cleptomaniacs - who have not 'chosen' to steal but are compelled to?
Are you as lienient to drunks - who have not chosen to be drunks but are compelled to drink all day long?"

You have to steal to be clepto and drink to be a drunk. You don't have to have sex to be a heterosexual, homosexual or bi-sexual. You just gotta be born.

"What are the glorious results? How do you know how anything has turned out in the lives of those raised in homes where men were frolicking around in gross sin with one another?"

Well I know from unbiased research as well as interviewing teens raised in a home with two same-sex parents.

"But I do understand where you are coming from, Brother.
You only speak this way because the society in which you live in is accepting these perverted lifestyles more and more...You would not have been posting this stuff ten years ago (not openly - no one knows what you have written secretly)."

To be honest with you there is still plenty of friction now from taken this stand.

"How about prostitutes? Some prostitutes have hearts of gold.
But would you place children in their homes to be raised by them?
You dont think that sodomites are dysfunctional? And their homes would be dysfunctional?"

Your reasoning is dangerous and ignorant sorry.
I will reply because of the last thing you said about someone's reasoning being dangerous, and ignorant Sir.

First, i don't agree with your views. To explain, I will take it point, by point.

"And as followers of Christ we should be intolerant of any differing creed or opinion.
Especially when its so clearly laid out in the bible for us"


Toleration, does not mean acceptance or pacification. What two people do between themselves is their concern. It is sinful, but that's between them and God. Does the drunkard brandish his bottle while strolling into the house of God? Does the prostitute "turn tricks" in Church? Asking them to keep their sin to themselves, is not intolerance.


Define clearly.

"When you study God's word - what does it tell you about homosexuality?"

Not what you are saying if you really study God's Word.

"Additionally - why would sodomites repent of their perversions if NO ONE tells them what God thinks homosexuality."


While disputing that sodomy is a sin, on ther hand now you're saying it's a perversion and a sin (else why repent). You've mentioned what God thinks of homosexuality in the same sentence. draw your own conclusions

They already know what you think, and everybody else. They have been told what God thinks but He told them the truth in the beginning when He made them.

Isn't what God thinks most important of all?

"Are you as lienient to cleptomaniacs - who have not 'chosen' to steal but are compelled to?
Are you as lienient to drunks - who have not chosen to be drunks but are compelled to drink all day long?"


Some people are. I'm not. I believe people are responsible for whatever their actions are. A kleptomaniac chooses to steal, and a drunk chooses to drink, which brings me to my next point


You have to steal to be clepto and drink to be a drunk. You don't have to have sex to be a heterosexual, homosexual or bi-sexual. You just gotta be born.



NO ! Who ttold you that? How can you make such a statement with such authority. EVRYBODY IS BORN HETEROSEXUAL. That's the way GOD made us all. Believe me, he knew what he was doing. People CHOOSE to stray away from hetero-sexuality. Your excuse that homosexuals and bi-sexuals are born that way is JUST as pathetic as a dunk drinking, or a klep stealing. PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.



Well I know from unbiased research as well as interviewing teens raised in a home with two same-sex parents.



why is the research unbiased? How was the sample chosen, by whom? Who sponsored the research? All that's before I even asked he result. Please provide references so we can make informed criticisms or even learn from them. Having said that, it doesn't matter. Not in the least. Wether the same-sex couple are decent, well behaved human beings. The problem is that you are allowing them to grow in an environment where they, from birth, are taught a wrong way of life. Where they are taught, to ignore the word of God by THEIR PARENTS.



To be honest with you there is still plenty of friction now from taken this stand.


You obviously know the reasons why


"How about prostitutes? Some prostitutes have hearts of gold.
But would you place children in their homes to be raised by them?
You dont think that sodomites are dysfunctional? And their homes would be dysfunctional?"

Your reasoning is dangerous and ignorant sorry.


I'm not sure I agree about prostitutes. Everybody does bad things. Everybody. But people do raise childeren in the light of our Lord's word despite that. While I wouldn't agree about the prostitutes, I am certain that homosexuality is wrong. Childeren brought up under such a system would be unable to see that. That's the danger. Finaly ignorance? not very nice :-)
The same silly and inconsistent argument again! Lord have mercy! There are prostitutes with children so a man marrying another man must be right!! Kudus, Mr Ibliss, Satan, you have been working really hard havent you?. You got even believers in God thinking with their butts instead of their heads.
Newview you asked me "What glorious results?" so I decided I would share this glorious result with you. As I stated before there are countless others, this one is purely random... Just click on the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46L3zeBnN2U&feature=related
It is impossible to get homosexual to think right. They will begin to think right when they are burning in hell.To the homosexual, a woman licking her fellow woman's germs with her tongue is devine and so should be allowed to confused a child about right and wrong. Unfortunately we live in a generation of low crap humans who believe anything with a political clout. Politicians will vote for shit so long as it will keep them in power.
What I have learnt over the many years as a christian is that when a person allows the devil to take over their mindset it is almost impossible, from the point of view of argument, to turn them around. What it takes is deliverance. Bible says of these kinds "The god of this earth has put their minds in darkness so they cannot comprehend" This is why there are so many weird doctirnes in the modern church. But many are called but few are chosen. The chosen are illuminated by the Holy Ghost, so they have no problem understanding scripture. There are those who read the scriptures the way you read "The Geography of Africa". No spiritual insight because they are not filled with the Holy Ghost as Christ Himself commanded. They are social animals believing more to what pertains to this earth than what is devine. A man's asshole suddenly takes on greater importance than God's Word. This world is getting crazier by the second. Evil will overtake us folks. Get ready for the endtimes.
I have just started researching what the call "Gay Theology". I didnt even know that such a disgraceful concept exists. But I was shocked to find the extent to which the demon-posseesd have tried to distort scripture and hijack many of God's people into a lifestyle that even animals reject, and eventually lead precious souls to Hell. All this was happenning as the Church looked on, unpeturbed. Gay theology has nothing to do with the Word of God. It is an attempt by the demon-possessed to gloss over their acts of wickedness and intransigience against the Lord God Almighty by blaspheming against the Lord in an attempt to establish worldliy acceptance.
I have therefore embarked on writing and publishing a book to expose the Agenda of the homosexual resurgence in our days. You will be shocked what I will expose when this book comes out.

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