Jesus the Christ the ONLY Way

[Pastor valentine]

To have eternal salvation/ eternal life , Jesus the Christ is the ONLY Way. A person cannot enter Heaven/ New Jeruselm without Jeus the Christ . You must accept Chrsit Jesus as your Lord and saviour. There is a heaven and a hell , and yes everyone will live forever. A person cannot make it to Glory on the prayers promises , and covenants of our fore fathers and mothers. You must have a relationship with Chrsit Jesus for yourself. Time is nigh yesterday is gone , and tomorrow is not promised . all you have is today , this moment in time. In eternaity you will be with Chrsit jesus and paradise, or Burn in the lake of fire and brimestone. I pose the question, if you died right now oh where, oh where will your soul find rest.Jesus the Christ is the ONLY Way. A denominational name, church, synagoge, temple ,hall, etc. can't save you { salvation] You must have Christ Jesus and your name recorded in the Lambs Book of Life. if you went around the great wall of china. you will find buddah and confusehes dead cold and in the grave.. If you went to taj mahal you will hindu ,janism,dead cold and still in the grave. if you went around central park in New york city. You will find sweet daddy grace and father divine dead,cold, and in the grave. if you went to saudia arabia around the Black rock you will find mohamend dead cold and in the grave. YET if you went to jerusalen around a hill called calvary. YOU will find an Empty Tomb, because Chrsit jesus rose from the grave with all power in his hands. Chrsit Jesus sits at the right hand of the father making intercess for whom so ever will. Jesus the Christ is The ONLY WAY

[Pastor valentine]

If you are wrong in one part of the Godhead, then you are wrong in all.

[Zealot X]

HALLELUYAH! Thank you for plugging my website, lol.

http://www.zealotx.com

Is the site you're reacting to. The explanation for the ugly exterior can be found here.

http://www.zealotx.com/zX3.01/index.php?option=com_content&view...


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I don't want to lose people or be the cause of one of you "not getting it" and giving up. This is why I cannot download all the information you need to know at once. I wish I could, but I can't. If I did.... if you did not hear what you were ready for, there is a high probability you would simply reject it. One of the interesting things about Zealot X I liked was this very ugly and monstrous exterior. You see, when many people see the exterior of Zealot X they accuse me of things that aren't seemly. They have a strong visual reaction because of their perception. If something looks evil to them that's what it is. However, what if the reverse was true? What if it isn't the world that's upside down, but you, because you are being held upside down, that you see what's right as wrong and what's wrong as right? I'm here today to tell you that your world may be upside down because you have been deceived.

Immediately, now we have trust issues. You cannot say someone is deceived like that without a defensive response. "No, YOU are the one who is deceived. ...look at how evil your character looks". I've had wonderful experiences learning human nature by speaking in forums with Zealot X as my avatar picture. Those who are more spiritual have seen through the mask and I compliment them for that. Those who are more religious and less spiritual refuse to believe the mask isn't my real face. Why? They want it to be ugly. They want me to be evil. They want me to be lying in order to protect themselves from anything that I have to say. That's why I thought this was such a brilliant illustration. The best way to keep someone from spilling the beans is to take away their credibility.

If I can say something about myself for a minute... I want those of you who CAN understand, to understand that I am nice guy, I love everyone, I don't hate people, just sin. Please don't judge me by how I look or by the situation. I couldn't compete with the suits and robes most preachers wear. What I can tell you is that the exterior DOESN'T SPIRITUALLY MATTER. I come to you, not robed in light (like the angel of light) but arrayed in scars and charred flesh. I am simply the container. Beneath the mask is what the Father sees and those are the eyes you need to see with if you desire spiritual sight.

With the spiritual sight that I was given I could clearly see how truth and error had switched places to form the largest deception in human history. Most of you probably believe that what your church teaches is what the disciples taught even though you go to different churches. If your church has speaking in tongues then you believe this is what the disciples did too. But you couldn't all be telling the truth. Most of you have to be incorrect which means that someone is not telling the truth. When I re-read the scriptures looking for different answers than the ones I was taught in my trinitarian denomination I began to see how the bible was saying something different (even opposite) and that I couldn't trust other men to interpret this bible for me. The minds of men go where they are led to go but also where they desire to go. It's not just different interpretations. I found a pattern of misinterpretation that actually created rebellion and lawlessness. It's one thing to interpret a few things wrong. It's another for all these interpretations to coalesce into a formula for sin where people continued to sin, thinking that they were doing G-d's will. And if they were told (by men) to kill people they would do that too; all in the name of "God". Now I would probably think I was wrong if I didn't invistigate this thoroughly or if there werent prophecies about this happening, but I did and there are. Paul talked about it in his letter to the Thessalonians. Its further talked about in Revelation. These men both connected a change in organization to deception to unrighteousness and sin.

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

aww man, my producer's gonna kill me for that FREE plug! You are suppose to pay for on-air advertisement man! LOL

And now I've accidently prompted a short dissertation from you... my bad. LOL

"we now return to our regularly schedule program"

[Zealot X]

Of course these kinds of attacks are very common in the religious community. I'm sorry you had to witness this yourself.

37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

Now.... my FATHER (YHWH) in all of the Scriptures never said the things that I've heard from pastors. Who should I believe?

This is what I've seen with my Father.

Isaiah 44:8 - Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a G-d beside me? yea, there is no G-d; I know not any.

And I have MANY like this. But someone is calling me wicked because I believe my FATHER who created me and who told me to have no other gods before him?

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Yeshua saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of G-d: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

Here the belief of Yisra'el is echoed. This is TRUE monotheism! My G-d is not one G-d because of some technicality, some rule, that isn't even explained in the bible (3-in-1). I have ONE Father, even YHWH elohim(G-d). OF course, even after being corrected, even after being told by other witnesses, this man still accuses me of not believing in G-d in order to fit his careless use of the bible to attack.

42 Yeshua said unto them, If G-d were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from G-d; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

He didn't tell them "AHA! You're wrong buddy because there is G-d the Father, G-d the son, and G-d the holy spirit!" He said that he was sent by their one Father, even G-d.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

It is truly ashame when a pastor is so ruined and corrupt in his spirit that he feels the urge to lie. But this often happens when religious people feel threatened by someone with new or different ideas. And it should be said that Yeshua's ideas and teachings were not new.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

My accuser has accused me of being wicked but has not been able to convince me of sin (not that any one sin equates to wickedness anyway)

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Yeshua provides a reason he's having such a hard time dealing with these characters, the Pharisees.

48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

I propose that the ONLY reason that this man is attacking me is because he felt attacked and threatened by the questions I asked of him in my first post. That's why he did not given answer to the questions straight away but instead argued with me as if I had run over his dog. And someone else even answered the questions herself, showing how easy they were to answer. Again, I am DISTURBED when the gospel is preached based on fear. "What's going to happen to you when you die!" That is TERRORISM. You're trying to use fear to scare people into doing what you want them to do. If YHWH wanted everyone to do his will out of fear he would be killing us left and right. He wouldn't be pleading with us and trying to save us from ourselves.

THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE MOTIVE TO COME TO YHWH ELOHIM (G-D) IS LOVE.

But because the Pastor doesn't like or agree with this message he chooses to attack me instead with wild accusations.

49 Yeshua answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. 50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.


shalom

[Zealot X]

I love correction but I will not accept correction without proving that it is.... CORRECT.

[Pastor valentine]

I answered your question with scripture and I am waiting on my Check. A man is only as good as his Word.

[Zealot X]

I'll give you another chance. This time I'll help you. I'll give you 3 texts including the one you posted. In which of these 3 texts do you see any of the titles for elohim(G-d) being applied to Yeshua?

1 John 4:2 - Hereby know ye the Spirit of G-d: Every spirit that confesseth that Yeshua haMashiach is come in the flesh is of G-d:

1 John 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Yeshua haMashiach is come in the flesh is not of G-d: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Yeshua haMashiach is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

which of these tell us that Yeshua haMashiach which came IN THE FLESH is also G-d incarnate?

here is a refresher on what "in the flesh" means:

1 Peter 4:6 - For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to G-d in the spirit.

spiritual 'flesh'

1 Peter 4:1 - Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

physical 'flesh'


at this point you should be writing ME a check, lol.

[Pastor valentine]

First and foremost there is No g-d ,in the bible . I know of no one in the God head who's name is g-d . For the sake of Knowledge you ask who is incarnate. answer Jesus the Christ . scripture is St. John 1:14,17 preceeded by St.John 1 :1-13

[Zealot X]

Was the bible written in English? If it was then there is a "God" in the bible. If not then there is no "God" or "gods" in the bible because English did not exist when it was written.

Secondly, you did not answer the question where it says that he was "God" in the above texts dealing with people who didn't believe he came in the flesh being anti-Christ. The other texts you mentioned you do not comprehend the meaning of. For example....

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of G-d, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of G-d.

Christians have a tendency to skip over these parts. I like to read WHOLE chapters and WHOLE books. John clearly says whoever receives him, to THEM (plural) gave he power to become THE SONS OF G-D, even to them that believe on his name. 13, which are born how? not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of G-d. So clearly, those (plural) who are born of the will of G-d and to accept him and believe on him, they (all) have the power to be THE sons of G-d. Now if you want to ignore it because there's a dash in it you go right ahead and read it yourself and see what it says in your bible.

And while you're at it, I think it would be wise for you to read about the pre-trinitarian beliefs. The fact that you think this is so cut and dry shows that you are very much lacking in knowledge as it pertains to this subject.

shalom

[m]

Pastor Smith,

 

God is not a name, but a title.

 

Shalom,

M

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

Brother, what is the grace and mercy? You have yet to answer that.

[Pastor valentine]

What is grace and mercy? answer Jesus the Christ