Wife Having to Step Up as Shepherd..?

[Joseph Carey Jr.]

How do you all feel about a woman having to step up as pastor, because of whatever circumstance with her husband, such as death, sickness, steps out of position/fall into sin and no longer decides to obey the Lord, etc.. Would you see this as her being the help meet in carrying the ministry until someone else is raised up, such as the son? I see this has to happen a lot because of no ministers willing to take position, not in position, no one trained for situation such as this, or no assistant pastors to take position. And if this has to happen, what do you think is the proper way to handle it. Is it biblical knowledge associated with it?

[REYNA GUTIERREZ]

Jeremiah 9:17

Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Consider ye, and call for the mourning women, that they may come; and send for cunning women, that they may come: Ezekiel 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.Proverbs 31:9-31

Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

10Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.

31Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.A true help meet will be able to pick up the torch for her husband and hold down the fort until God sends a replacement 

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[newview]

The woman needs to pray along with everyone else in the church to move one raise up one of the other elders in the church to guide it.  Hopefully there was not just one elder.

She should let the spiritual men do their thing and lead the flock - she needs to make sure the sisters lining up and she needs to be helping those that are infirmed and helping the elderly and those types of things because if the sisters dont do it- then who will? --> The men? God forbid!

Then you have dudes taking the place of women and women taking the place of men.

 

[Joseph Carey Jr.]

"...you have dudes taking the place of women and women taking the place of men."

 

So true. They swapped places and God never told 'em to.

[TheLegend]

Amen

[Lester Demings Jr]

If the husband is sick then it is her duty (her right I'll say) to oversee the church as long as he is living to make sure that his work is carried on while he is sick; however if he should pass then they need to put an able man in that stead to carry the work on further- this also goes for if he leaves the ministry for any reason.

[newview]

 

Uhhh...What scripture is that?

[newview]

"...Now, in the wife knowing how the pastor runs things she can still run it as if the pastor is still there until his return or goes home to glory..."

 

What scripture are you basing that on?

 

 

"...She must rely souly on God's direction thruogh much prayer and fasting."

 

Also, she needs to follow what is written.  Dont be holier than God.

She needs to pray and fast but even after she does that and her inclination is to disobey the scriptures about what she is allowed and called to do in the church - then her fasting and praying have been in vain.

 

[Mrs. Denise Jones]

Amen

[newview]

'...Co-Pastor...'

What scripture are you basing that on?

Where does it say that she can become the pastor of a church if her husband dies?

Where does it say she can fill in as a pastor for a while?

Im not saying that its not in the holy scriptures - but I need you to quote the scripture that gives instructions on these things.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mrs. Denise Jones]

Amen....LOL

[newview]

..."Help meet" does not equate into "Take-over-meet."

 

Bro Watson, thats too funny.  :D

[newview]

"I am not saying that this gives her a right and i was trying to express that she may be capable of taking over under the direction of God if He were to lead in that direction"

 

Ok. So what you are acknowledging is THERE IS NOTHING THAT GIVES HER THE RIGHT TO PASTOR A CHURCH. Not death, not life, not money, not votes, not intelligence.  Nothing.

 

To me - it may not seem like it but she would have more power with God if she moved by the power of the Holy Spirit.  I think she (along with the rest of the Church) should pray and fast and let the elders that are there already pastor the people til one is raised up over them.  And it may turn out that there be NO singular man to pastor the people but a group of elders do the pastoring.

What the wife of the former pastor needs to focus on is prayer, is fasting and ministering by being a model for the other women in the church, by taking care of the infirmed, taking care of the poor, the elderly, teaching the young women how to be proper, feminine, care takers of their families so that the Church of God is looked at one heck of a group of people doing amazing things.

She dont need to be up men's faces for anything (except to care for those in need).

They should be busy doing what they have been called to do and thats caring for their families, those in need, prayer and fasting and going about the business of being meek and quiet and virtuous.  :)

And the other women in the church need to learn this - but from whom if the only thing the former pastor's wife is doing happens to be anything else than what she has been without a doubt been called to do by God?