Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

You must have misread the posting Mr MArQuise. Homosexuals go to church, so are all kinds of sinners but nobody ever made a law legitimising something that the Bible clearly indicates is an abomination in the sight of the Lord.
If you believe homosexuals have the right to marry or if States support gay marriages I suggest they should also legitimize pedophilia, necromancy, beastiality because all these are forms of sexual perversity. You cant separate on from the other. Someone might just go sleep with a tree and ask for a marriage license to marry a tree? How about that?
I used to preach for a pastor when I first moved here and I notice homosexuals in the church doing their own thing. It is true so long as they gave him money , he refrained from preaching the truth. One sunday I decide to preach on the issue. The gays came together and made a complaint to this pastor. Next Sunday I was put on the pedestal. He was mad. He said to me " I aint gonna bring a man into my church to beat up on people. God love everyonre the same. You aint gonna preach no more, yeh, you gonna sit down for a whilst"
The Lord showed me that if we did the right thing ,the church was going to explode and become so dynamic, if not , the church would collapse.
When I shared this with the man of God, his response was: "This man aint but a false prophet"
Well, I left the church January 2005. By 2006 June I ran into him in a Chinese restaurant having luch with his wife. He was in overalls coated in paint. He said I should have listened to you. He narrated a series of troubles he'd been through and how he lost the church. He paints houses for a living right now. We are back as friends. He acknowledge he needed more learning, in order to go back preaching. So he attached himself to a famous preacher here and is understudying him.
The long and short of ii all is that there as many opinions today as there are churches. But God's Word is clear. A man of God once said if the Lord should come back today and go to preach in all churches 90% would throw him out because he in fringed upon their doctrine.

[Lester Demings Jr]

No one is saying NOT to preach against SIN but to single out homosexual/homosexuality and mentally and emotionally beat on them with the Word of God is not scriptural at all.
When are we going to get the pulpit cleaned up?
When are we going to get the church cleaned up?
How can you speak to the homosexuals out in the audience and have not spoke to the ones in the pulpit that you allow to preach, teach, sing, play and such in the church? or the ones you continue to ordain?
Isn't that hypocritical to judge some and condone the same lifestyle of the others?
I see how you did not respond to ANYTHING that I posted instead you gave me some "story" that may or may not be true.
I want you to respond to my post not give me some dry story. I especially want to get an answer to the question I asked regarding the baseball bat.
Many of you have a personal issue with homosexuals and you don't want to openly admit this.
You are making yourself out to be an inconsistent hypocrite and that is the worst character trait to have as a child of the Most High.

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

I see your problem, you dont seem to have a sense of humor. You know what lol stands for? Did you read followed in the next paragraph when I made it clear a pastor cant hate on people because of their sin. You are missing the point, Mr MArQuise!!

[Lester Demings Jr]

No I'm not missing the point I saw the (lol) but it still did not stop me from asking you the question so how about we just get past all that and we get to the meatier part of the subject.
And I have a VERY good sense of humor believe. I am on this site dealing with these "people" aren't am I not lol I must have a sense of humor to listen to some of the stuff they call "teaching."

[Apostle Robert L. Mitchell III]

Marquise let me explain for you for you have such strong delusion concerning this matter.

If you are Gay and you are a lesbian, a sodomite or both ways. you are not of the body of The Mashiach. POINT BLANK AN ABOMINATION. YOU WILL BURN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMESTONE!!!!!!!

ANY QUESTIONS???

NOW. Do we allow them in the church?

Answer: IT IS NOT OUR CHURCH, YOUR CHURCH OR THE PASTORS CHURCH!!!!! POINT BLANK!

NEXT. SHOULD THEY PAY TITHES??

Answer: NO. they will not be blessed living in that manner. their tithe is like Cains' was.

NEXT. SHOULD THEY GIVE AN OFFERING.

Answer. thats their choice, thats what offering is anyway.

NEXT. SHOULD THEY HOLD POSITION

Answer: NO. You cannot bring strange fire into the house of YHWH and expect a blessing to your house it will fall. there is no exceptions!!!!

NO you shouldn't oust them out the church they are sinners just the same. BUT WILL YOU MAKE A SINNER A MINISTER, APOSTLE, PROPHET, EVANGELIST etc...NO YOU WOULDN'T.

So if a homosexual is in a position of authority then the entire church is out of order and needs to be stripped and rebuilt from the top to the bottom. No church will let a sinner into such a position.

Do you have a problem with people attacking homosexuality is my question? You are to apt to defend them.

SIN IS SIN MY BROTHER!!! Whether you are gay, a liar, drunk, adulterer, muderer, witch, pagan, atheist, or the like. You will all get the same treatment if you choose not to put it down and pick up YHWH. I don't have time to play the game with them I call for obedience in the will of the Most HIgh. The Lord is not one to play games with. If you keep defending them then you are not on the side of righteousness but on the side of the enemy.

IN CLOSING...... LIKE I SAID NO SIN IS GOOD SOME CHOOSE SOME SINS OVER OTHERS. IT IS OUR JOB TO GET RID OF THE SIN NOT THE PERSON. IF THE PERSON CHOOSES TO KEEP SINNING THEN YOU GET RID OF THE PERSON.

[Eric Hancock]

Well said my Brother

[GOD'S APOSTOLIC AMBASSADORS]

!!!!!AMEN!! AMEN!!! MY BROTHER, WELL SAID.

[Anointed Sister]

Amen...Amen...Amen

[karen d washington]

Amen

[Brotha Seeking the Truth]

Deuteronomy 23:18
Thou shalt not bring the HIRE OF A WHORE, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are ABOMINATION unto the LORD thy God.

That includes the money from ANYONE who has sex for financial gain.

[TANYA DOVE]

HEAVY MY BROTHER

[Lester Demings Jr]

I'm glad someone sees what I have been trying to say.
You can ALWAYS see who are the TRUE men and women of God.