Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.

[Lester Demings Jr]

Yes, now you want to run when you have open a discussion that also shows YOUR mess as well sir divorcee lol!!!
My grandfather always said, "When you point fingers remember you have three pointing right back at you."

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

HEY red letter guy/ you ere waaay out of line/like bro.Moreh stated earlier leave the fight somewhere else....

Though we know that is sufficient stop now please stop...that is not why we are here...

to YAH be the Glory and the Power...............

[Lester Demings Jr]

HEY red letter guy/ you ere waaay out of line/like bro.Moreh stated earlier leave the fight somewhere else....
Though we know that is sufficient stop now please stop...that is not why we are here...

What is sufficient?
That he is using my personal business to entertain you people???
I am so glad you all are getting a kick out of this but it won't stop me from speaking the WORD and the TRUTH of the Word.
You all know NOTHING about me other than what OTHER'S have told you about me and the sad thing is YOU ALL are believing the mess and not one time have I logged in and received a message nor an email wondering what the TRUTH is since you all are here to get truth, right???
This is doing nothing but showing everyone how hypocritical church folk are.
Well, let's see what he comes back with next maybe you all will enjoy it more than you already have.
You people are funny.

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

MARQUISE/RED LETTER YALL NEED TO STOP YOUR ARGUEMENT ON THIS NETWORK/

YALL ARE REALLY OU OF LINE/DON'T TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH AND HE SAID HE SAID STOP MAN STOP.......

BOTH OF YALL NEED SOME SALVATION......................

WE ARE NOT INVESTIGATORS/AND MEDIA PERSONS/YOU ALL WANNA BE DETECTIVES DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE................

[Apostle Robert L. Mitchell III]

No i didnt have to find material on him. I did like you all did and ignored him. But enough is enough. So I brought proof to the table to make it known. Beyond reproof or conjecture.Being that I dont travel in your circle I had no prior knowledge that others had told him before.

Second I was not talking about him to you at all. I was speaking about the other person Mr.West. Whom you stated is starting to walk in truth. I will not put him down but at the same time he shouldn't do so to others.

One other thing do you remember the last time i spoke to a specific Bishop(ess) She was wrong in what she said then and I held my toung not for that either. two weeks ago i did the same to another Bishop. But I did so with respect to all. Just as long as they do not disrespect me. One brother did come st me sideways and i did speak to him in private. But Marquises is a person that you cannot do that with you have to speak to him in the open for all to see, he is the exception to the case, sort of like A WOMAN AND A MINISTER SPEAKING IN PRIVATE. THERE NEEDS TO BE A MODERATOR SO THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE WOMAN CAN SAY TO DISCRIMINATE THE MINISTER. A private convo with him is not wise at all. you see his spin is "OH YOU WANT ME!" that is why I only kept telling him to Repent which there is nothing wrong with that message . But no one else said it!!! (that I seen).

And you are right i had no joy in it at all. I was hoping that in the past months that he would have been getting some instruction from somebody. But alas he is reprobate and lost.

Bottom line, If I was in sin(not that i never have) then I would never be the first to throw a stone. But i live a consecrated life. I am Talmidim and devout to Adonai. For me to walk that path will be death. So yes I do tell the church on Sunday, That they are wrong! But were The Most High Leads me to go to. And yes this is a Hard Word. this is why I cannot live in any sin. My children are raised in the Temple Of the Most High as well from birth.They are consecrated as well this was done before their birth , this is my covenant with YHWH. I wrote an article on it, and published on "The Testimony Times" it's also on my blog.

But rest assured that that was the last post to him. I am not going to entertain his sexual deviations. I only have one word and i said it 3 times. 1,2,3 strikes your out!!
I didn't read that post to stop talking bout it with him. But it is finished! I am also finished here too. Shavuah Tov

Shalom.

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

Have you ever read in the Word "STUDY TO BE QUIET" Istopped arguing with him for it was a test in futility......

Not knocking you at all/ It is just not necessary/ if one could not or cannot see the truth to the matter then they are also without discernment......

Just let it Go/It is not fruitful to the Kingdom to persecute or to bash.......

THANX MOREH/ AND TO REMEMBER TIMES PASSED/LOL

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

Shalom my Man,
the only point that I am trying to get across is that we are not to be persecutors of anyone/ How you feel about me has no bearing/ I am not defending Homosexuality in any way/ But let your conversation be salted/ If the salt is refused do as the rest of us did and leave it alone/

Faith cometh by hearing The Word of YAH.........

Be blessed/ and not feeble minded.

We are not here to PERSECUTE final..........

We cannot save or deliver on our own accord/ Yet through prayer and supplication let us make our requests known to YAH>........

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

WHEN THE DEVIL CONTENDED FOR THE BODY OF MOSES/THE ANGEL OF YAH/SAID THAT YAH REBUKES YOU........

ONCE REBUKED LEAVE IT ALONE..............

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

BE NOT HIGH-MINDED FRIEND FOR THAT IS NOT OF YESHUA IN NO MEANS.......

JUST A THOUGHT/ I AM ALWAYS IN NEED OF MORE STUDY AND DO/BUT THE POINT IS YOU DRAGGED SOMETHING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO PROVE A POINT NOT TO LEAD TO REPENTANCE/THAT IS PERSECUTION.......

HOW CAN YOU SAY TO BE LIKE THE PROPHETS AND YOU SHOW YOURSELF TO BE AS SAUL/THE PHARISEE/PERSECUTOR.......THAT IS NOT GODLY.............

I MAY BE AJOKE TO YOU AND MANY OTHERS BUT KEEP LAUGHING AND I WILL KEEP SEARCHING FOR THE KINGDOM OF YAWEH...........

[Lester Demings Jr]

First, I am not here to talk about my personal business. I am here to talk about the WORD and that s where the line is drawn. My personal business is just that MY personal business and I will NOT make my life the subject matter just to prove somebody's supposed ministry.
Next, I am not arguing with some invisible online personality. What does he matter to me? I already know what his plan is regarding me so it doesn't bother me. I honestly could care less it is just funny that I am able to show his step by step and how he is going to pull his tricks out of his hat in order to prove some false point. There is NOTHING I have lied about so what need would I have to defend anything however I do have a right to speak the truth ad that I will do.
You and everybody else is enjoying this foolishness and I'm glad you are because because you will have to account for the judgment that you have placed on me because of what somebody as said.
Lastly, I am NOT bitter nor am I angry about anyone or anything. I can't help the fact that I am not some weak branch that can be swayed whichever the wind blows. If you don't like what I have to say then honestly you don't have to respond or read anything I post however no matter what state I am in THE WORD will always be true. I don't change, twist nor dissect the Word dependent upon what I state I am in. The Word will ALWAYS stand above else.
I am not out of line and will not take that rebuke when I have done nothing but minded MY business. I don't care that this person is lying on me. It's sad that people like him and Moreh would get online and make it their business to search out things just to make someone look bad because they won't do as they want them to. I didn't leave here because of what someone asked me about my sexuality. That is far from the truth. Why would I get upset and leave because of this? That is immature and foolish. I am a MAN above anything else and have never ran from a fight. I left here because I noticed that these demonic spirits working on here were trying to overtake me and I wasn't ready for them. However, this time I am ready for YOU MOREH and the rest of your demonic imps who are making it their personal business to try and destroy me.
I am FAR from bitter and angry I am actually laughing at how small-minded and easily influenced you church folk are just because of what is is in your own minds. Moreh speaks so disrespectful to people and condescending but he has the nerve to call me bitter and angry??? He is only a "friend" to those who listen to that crap he pushes as "truth." Moreh has had it out for me every since I shut him down and stopped listening to his garbage so from then he has had it out for me. I stopped talking to him and so every chance he gets he tries to come for me like some wounded sissy lol!!! MOREH needs to get over himself and get past me because I will ALWAYS love Jesus and be a member of the Grand 'Ole Church Of God In Christ. You'll never catch me walking around looking ashy and dusty like them hebrews do lol!!!
However, I HAVE a life so what you people think about me matters to me none. I am glad that I am getting so much attention as I am. I love it really. I grew up without much attention and love so I am SOOOO happy to know that I have made such an impression on your lives as I have lol!!!
I say, get saved like the Bible said, gird your mind up and get a life.
There IS life outside of BPN!!!

[Maria]

as early as 50 years ago and even today there would be people saying "as a pastor, would you allow blacks to frolic in your church?"
y'all are hypocrites. we are all god's children except when we don't like what god created. in these cases, god has no responsibility....
some african americans are hypocrites. it's horrible when discrimination happens to them but they are so quick to throw another group of people into the discrimination spotlight, in this case, homosexuals.
pick and choose what you must what to follow and not follow. it's sad that two straight people that hate each other have more right to get married than two gay people that love each other. i thank god everyday that i live in canada. a place that treats all people equally and allows gay marriage. the definition of marriage the children of canada will grow up with is "the legal or religious union of two people." exactly how it should be worldwide.

[Maria]

the only one there is:)