What Would Jesus Do?

[Eemah Martha aka Hephzybah]

[James Pierce]

Trevor,

Its STILL traditions of man.

[Evangelist Altha Fugett]

James, I do not wear a cross, I could if I wanted one, for it's significance would be just a piece of jewelry,

I do not celebrate Easter, or Esthra(might be misspelled) the god of fertility that it's named after, however I celebrate "Ressurection Day" and praise God for Jesus' Acension.

I celebrate Christmas, and I have a christmas tree, I do not worshipped it as those people that worship trees did.( I can't remember their name) It is a time that I celebrate the birth of my Lord, I understand we don't have an exact date and Dec 25th is incorrect.

Mithra, to me is myth of false worship, so his birth and whoever elses who falls on that date is of no interest to me, however it is just another day, for I celebrate HIS, Yeshua's birth everyday.

See my young Bro. I've heard all this before, I searched, outside my upbringing, when God came into my life, for I wanted to be pleasing to HIM, I thank God, for my church, for with all it's traditionalism, and things that make me go ugh, they possessed the core of the gospel. Not that they are perfect, for the Word tells us to allow the wheat and the tare to grow together and HE will do the seperating, so no one on this site belongs to a perfect church! however they instilled in me

That there is a difference between saved and unsaved, and that salvation comes by

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


Now I walk as the Holy Spirit leads me. Free, my Sabbath is everyday, my rest is in Jesus 24/7

James your eyes are on the Torah, you have made a god out of it. You are worshipping the created and NOT the creator Romans 1:25

Look at all your responses, the Torah, that is not Torah, it lines up with Torah??? Who is your God? YHWH or the Torah?

God has said in his word according to

Col 3:11 that there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

that broke all lines, class, gender,race.... that is hard for a lot of individuals to come to terms with, look how christian men and Moreh and some others will come together to battle without armor on to fight a woman about telling others the gospel of Yeshua, they agree on that?

I address you, you are young, the other's will have to to be knock blind so that they can see.

Don't go down that road James, keep on studying, all that you have learned is not wrong, I've been where are you are. God wants to use you,

I declare now that you will be a mighty warrior that will come against the exteme part of what you have learned and that God will make you lie down in green pastures, and lead you beside still waters and restore your soul.

Be Blessed

[James Pierce]

Evan,

I accept that you blessed me of being a mighty warrior for Yahweh, but I do not accept what you stated concerning Torah. How can you say I make Torah my God? LOL that makes no sense. Paul HIMSELF told timothy that Torah is great for teaching, rebuking, etc.

ALL doctrine MUST be tested by Torah. My heart must be on Torah.. Why? because it PROVES my love for Yahweh(1 John 5:3). If you are NOT keeping Torah, then you do NOT love Yahweh. Its just that simple big sis. I think you want me to make a god out of Torah, but I shall disregard that as being ignorant of who I am.

You said I always say Torah this and that. Guess what. That was how Yeshua, his Apostles, and Paul was :). Evan, if YOU want to model Yeshua, well guess what, HE KEPT TORAH. You might want to think about your faith in Yeshua if you do not want to obey him via Torah. Torah is what we ALL will be judged by. case and point.

[Evangelist Altha Fugett]

Shalom lil brother, I'll still be praying

be blessed

[James Pierce]

Evan,

While you're praying, pray that, since Torah will be the government of the new heavens and earth(Isaiah 2, 66), that Yahweh works in the life of you, and other Christians, bring all of you close to him to TRULY love him.

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

"Paul HIMSELF told timothy that Torah is great for teaching, rebuking, etc."

No, he didn't. He did not use the word Torah at all, be it from the Greek standpoint or the Hebaic. The Torah was the 5 books of Moses, and any good Jew knew this. They made a clear distinction between the Law and the Prophets, according to Luke 24:27 "And beginning at Moses (the Torah, or Pentateuch) and all the Prophets (the Nebiim), He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself."

[James Pierce]

Trevor,

Yes sir, you are correct, he did not say the word Torah. But watch this.. What was the only scriptures they had at that time? You guessed it, the TORAH & PROPHETS.

So, when Paul said,"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness", he was referring only to the Torah & Prophets

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Technically speaking, you mentioned Torah only and not the Nebiim. The Sister made a comment about the LAw, and you made a comment concerning only the Law. If you are going to mention the Prophets also, you have to ACTUALLY MENTION the Prophets.

Also, I disagree with the statement of the "only scriptures" that they had. Apostle Peter mentioned that the writings of the Apostles were authoritative even back then at the level of Torah and Neviim, according to 2nd Peter chapter 3. Some try to say that the Epistles were not regarded as scripture until Constantine, but Peter in his epistle called the Apostle's words "commandments", a term that you are quite familiar with.

According to the authority of an Apostle vested within him/her by JESUS CHRIST our LORD, the decrees of an Apostle are considered commandments. This is not exclusive to the 12, but this is for all of HIS true Apostles.

[James Pierce]

Trevor,

They were not scripture in the sense of Torah & The Prophets. That was their bible. They didnt have a bible containing Peter's writings. The Apostolic writings were only letters to Churches, usually sorting out issues.

[Eccl. 12:13]

Jesus was of the tribe of 'Juda'. After some time, those from the tribe of Juda became known as 'Jews'


Heb.7
[14] For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

Rev.5
[5] And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Regardless of the format, the epistle of an Apostle was authoritative nonetheless, and they still are today. .

[James Pierce]

Trevor,

I do not doubt that, but one must admit that when Paul told Timothy that all scripture is God-breathed, and for teaching, correcting, etc, He was referring to Torah & Prophets. That was their BIBLE. They was not walking around with Apostolic writings. When Paul and the Apostles had to correct a doctrine, what did they use? They did not open up to the Gospel of Matthew, the epistle of Peter. No, They opened up the only bible they had... The Torah & Prophets.