Should a pastor that spends most of his time preaching and teaching get paid for what God has him to do? I know what the scriptures says about this, but would you pastor for free?

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i apologize to you ew ministries I misunderstood, I am sorry.
No problem at all Pastor Stanley.
Mr.Stanley writes:" i apologize to you ew ministries I misunderstood, I am sorry.


See that was Nice-er... when from the heart, it is real..Todah Raba
They don't hear you nor can they hear you.

1Corinthians 2:13 - 15:

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

You keep teaching God's Word and let them teach man's because they will have to answer.
John You are so right, Unless the Master draws them, They will not come out of Her"

I guess G-d just wants them in the J-sus box..and some,... Very few are called higher..for what I do not know at this moment...as I ponder this all the time.

Yet I keep trying even though My team says I just waste my time..especially here where Black is proud and I am not dark enough for some folks...Real tragedy because in Judaism Colour is nothing.

It is intellectual godly wisdom that makes the grade...when the Torah and His Character are meshed together as one with HaShem



...all else is pale in comparison
Color is from Satan and not from God. If everyone that says they believe in God go back to the Old Testament they would see we all came from one of Noah's sons so this makes us all related. Color means nothing to God but does to flesh/Satan led man.

I believe that Adam and Eve were probably middle brown and meaning their offspring could be any color of the spectrum from white to black in color. Now most have to study DNA because I did and have a great site that explains what I'm talking about.
John: Interesting about the DNA of G-d is it not???~~~~~

For most of my life I have taught from my heart that G-d created five colours of sand on the planet and from that He made humanity from that...well that was the simple version..and I am sute it needed tweakin..LOl but it worked to calm the gang war mentality when I was a front line innercity servant of YHVH with hundreds of young lives given into my care (outside the four walls~ mind you) six days a week and the tradgety of life they experience, sadly...because of lack of godly wisdom real godly wisdom to walk with IMHO


However then one day reading I believe it was where the Sages had spoke that the Master took soil from all over the world to 'form Adam' so that when his flesh was to go back to the dust from which it came that the soil could not refuse its internment for it did not know where the soil came from. and therefore could not refuse it... well that is my recollection at the moment /LOL

Perhaps if our humanity get s out of the way we will stop refusing one another
Yesayahu/Isa. 58:v7-14 SADLY we are in ISA. 59:v1-ff missing the lesson of charity from one to another and Love at its finest from one to another.

Why/ because of our socialized predudices..


May the tears of G-d pave our path may the rejection of G-d be healed May the shekinah come once again to this nation...shalom



Please use this link and if you have not a copy..do yourself a favor
Pirkie Avos"Ethics of the Fathers"
It's like the language to me. In the beginning when God confounded the language of the people building the tower at Babel there was one language for the whole earth and I'd be willing to say it was Hebrew. He then created them to speak the other languages we know of today. Of course I have no way of being CERTAIN but Abram/Abraham did come from that area of Mesopotamia didn't he and they called him a Hebrew meaning from beyond the Euphrates. So we probably had all of Adam and Eve's offspring being of many colors all speaking one language until Nimrod started trying to build his temple to the heaven thus creating probably the first man religion. What is your take on the subjects of one language and religion first by Nimrod?
Mr Stanley writes:"who is the liar?"
R O M E ~ Lied and you bought into it! The Book you refer to as a bris Chadassah is nothing but a misconstruction infiltration of many Hellenistic and proto-Gnostic theology in pauls writing let alone the mysticism of qaballah from yochannon/John the one who was Yeshua's best Diciple. To truly understand It, is to put the writings into proper linguistic and historical context.

The Virgin Birth is refuted by the Historians of the Roman Church.

The lineage of Marian is failed.

The lineage of Luke is failed.

The historically noted ADD-ONs are all over the text of the Bris Chadassah.

The Temple Vail torn in two is in NONE of the historical writings of the Rabbis the Hasidim the notable commentators such as miramonides ~~~You would think that something that significant would be written down IT IS NOT!...(don't shout me down when I am preaching real good)

No where in the TaNaKh does it refer to a two time visit from the Messiah Instead it relates to a Man (flesh and blood) man born of the fleash that will arise from among us (He may not even be learned in Torah but He will restore the bet HaMakdash when he comes and there will be a time on earth that shalom will come upon us ...where every man is under his fig tree and every man eats from his grapes...in shalom.\To put G-d into a Box or one simple man is obserd You are talking the Creator of all the Universe the Multi-verse...continually creating and re-creating as we live...That my friends is awesome and cannot be contained in one man Because we are all of the Adam Qadmon we are all from the womb of Chavah/Eve...we are all the children from the womb of G-d - so to speak We are all from the One"

When the Messiah comes If we ever stop pointing the fingers Yesayahu 58:v9 There will be No wars, no Tyranny like the present Bush-clinton-bush and the present furher have set before us Yes He LIED' just like the government of Rome needed to appease the natives with the NT which was put together over hundreds of years...they too Embellished" the story.



I have shown Links through out my postings if anybody cared to check them)to what Judaism thinks on this subject back to the Temple time( Which would have been close to the time of J-sus was it not) ...and have yet to see One historical document shown in the over 900 responses on this thread...to assist the Sheeple to learn the real way"
Oh that is right must not forget that J-sus is the way, the truth.. the life Right?

So what is the way???... The 23,000 various denominations on the planet all stating they have the right J-sus???

I ask Is that the prayer~ "I pray that you become one with the Master/father as I am one wih Hashem"
IMHO NO!

The word Halachah or Halachot ( plural of Halachah) Means the WAY!!!

So what is the Way??? it is Halachah it is the rulings it refers to how one understands how the Torah is to be carried or Walked out...Refer to John// first John2:v6= the Obediant is better than sacrifice Torah walk.

That IMHO is a serious look at the barometer of the church,... the scholarly diciples are being lead astray from what Yeshua taught and is in trouble to say the least.
Stop pointing the fingers My friends..if you have not a corrected understanding. Isa 58:v9
I am interested in speaking with you. I have Jewish friends that don't believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah and I have Jewish friends that are Messionic believing in Jesus Christ. I know you and I will have so different beliefs but I don't care about that. I just love God's truth and not man's. Talk soon.
I am a minister, but I am not a pastor, but I am a pastor's child. I come from a line of preachers, teacher,s and so forth. As you stated we know what the scriptures say, but to answer your question, no I would not pastor for free UNLESS that what God had told me to do. A couple of things to consider; normally when a church is starting, it is small and can not afford to pay anything. So many churches start out of homes, or with the pastor paying the rent, lights, ect... During the days of small things the pastor normally has to be like Paul; work and pastor. But when the church grows, if the pastor is a full time pastor meaning that he/she has given up working a 8-5 to support the ministry because it is needed, the church not only should but is responsible to support the pastor by providing at least a salary. This is the quickest answer I could give, because so many different situations I am aware of could change the answer. But bible is right a workman is worthy of his hire.
1 Corinthians 9:18-19

18. But since it's not my idea but something solemnly entrusted to me, why would I expect to get paid? So am I getting anything out of it? Yes, as a matter of fact: the pleasure of proclaiming the Message at no cost to you. You don't even have to pay my expenses!

19. Even though I am free of the demands and expectations of everyone, I have voluntarily become a servant to any and all in order to reach a wide range of people: religious, nonreligious, meticulous moralists, loose-living immoralists, the defeated, the demoralized—whoever.




18 What then is the [actual] reward that I get? Just this: that in my preaching the good news (the Gospel), I may offer it [absolutely] free of expense [to anybody], not taking advantage of my rights and privileges [as a preacher] of the Gospel.

19 For although I am free in every way from anyone's control, I have made myself a bond servant to everyone, so that I might gain the more [for Christ].

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