Now this is something I want to discuss, NOT Michael Jacksons lifestyle, belief or fruits. The man is dead, and soon to bury.

But I keep hearing and reading about the media stating how abusive Joe Jackson was to his family. Now from what has been presented, yes, this man was overbearing and robbed his children of their childhood.
But I don't see him being abusive.??????? I know Michael stated that, but his brother Jermaine refuted saying that they were just like everyone else, they got whuppings.


I understood that, conflict for I know a set of twins at my church, one states her parents were abusive the other states, no they weren't they were just extremely strict.

What are you guys thoughts? was he abusive or just not sparing the rod. (Now keep in mind I think we all realize he lived his life through his children, he is not the first and won't be the last)

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Evan,

Joe did a good job rearing his children. What was sad was that he took away their childhoood. It affected Michael more than any of his siblings. Joe actually said that he never whipped Michael. Then, in the same breath, he said that Catherine whipped him more times than he did. So, im saying,"Did he, or did he not beat Michael?" Michael says yes, and explained the whole ordeal on many media television.

What's really sad now is that Michael is dead, and his father seems like he does not care. How is that? Well, he's out with his entourage promoting their company and albums. He should not be doing this. Its true that he's managing his grief(that if he is greiving), but his recent acts are unacceptable. Its true that he lived his life through his children. Joe didnt want that steel job he was doing, and so he forced his children into music. Sorry, but that is not how you raise the children.
Evang. Fugett:
When I was a young my mom was the one who raised me and my two brothers and sister coming up. Mom would whoop us but it was not abuse in the way they called it now.

My mom would whip us but not beat us.When you beat someone, that means you're beating an animal and we were not animals but children. Granted, we were not "angels" but four kids who would like anyother child or children who gets out of line that needs to be put back in our place.

These children today should be whipped just like we did and the rod not being spared..
I believe this as well, and they raised nine children, so some credit has to be given to them
Evan,

Yes. It would have been 10 children if Brandon did not die at birth.
Really? I didn't know that
There are always two sides to every story...
I hear a lot of negative about Joe Jackson... but many aren't crediting him with the positive... It was Joe genes that the Jackson’s got their musical abilities... and Joe brought out the best in them musically... All of his children are well off because of his strictness... If it wasn't any strict Joe there wouldn't be no Jackson 5, no Janet or other Jackson’s...

Michael admitted that he got his work ethic from Joe... and it was Michael's work ethic that made him into the best entertainer this world has seen...

Many are saying that Joe lived his life out through his children... I don't believe that's the case... It was the kids that wanted to sing and Joe pushed them to excel...

Not to mention raising 9 children off a steel workers salary... I tip my hat to Joe... many of fathers would have left the women because the task was too hard... but Joe stayed... Joe worked... and I believe Joe loves his children and family dearly...

If Joe was the average person and the Jackson’s weren’t famous… we wouldn’t even be having this discussion…

I received many of whippings and beatings for that matter… I too thought it was wrong for my mother to whip and beat me the way she did (sticks, belts, extension cords, paddles, shoes, and when I got older baseball bats)… and according to today’s worldly standard… what momma, grandma (grandma had a way of shaking us…anybody had the same grandma? Grandma took shake the devil out to a whole different level…), and all others did was abusive… I thank God for the way momma raised me… I’m alive today because of her strictness and her disciplinary methods…

(I do believe some children today are being abused… but let’s not judge Joe with those who are abusing their children today…)

now as far as how Joe's grieving the lost of Michael... we as believers must not speculate... we all deal with grievance differently... and therefore we can't speculate on how and what Joe is doing... the family needs our prayers... we're not to be like the world... the world (media and racist folks) are tearing this family down... we as believers are to lift this family up in prayers... especially during these times of sorrow…

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