Can We Eat Pork, Shellfish, And All Torah Forbidden Foods Under The New Testament?

[James Pierce]

Anyone?

[James Pierce]

Newview,

Can you show me where Yahushua ate Pork... violating the Torah?

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

@ Sister NewView

Jesus caused Sacrifice and Oblation to cease. Do you believe Jesus or Yehshua is the Messiah? If you do, then explain this, and tell me if this is getting rid of the moral law, Feasts of the Lord, Dietary, and cleanliness laws. This is a prophesy of the Messiah dying on the Cross, and then I am going to post a commandment of an animal sacrifice, and you tell me if what you read.

Daniel 9:26-27 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Leviticus 3:1-2 And if his oblation be a sacrifice of peace offering, if he offer it of the herd; whether it be a male or female, he shall offer it without blemish before the LORD. And he shall lay his hand upon the head of his offering, and kill it at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation: and Aaron's sons the priests shall sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about.

[newview]

"...Can you show me where Yahushua ate pork.. violating the Torah?"

No I am not saying Jesus ate pork.
He came and lived correctly but that was before the New Covenant...before He went to the Cross and shed his blood.
Rember eye for an eye. You take the same command of the OT and apply it with Jesus teaching on it and it comes out completely different than Moses' even though its the same command.
Do you get what I am trying to say? Maybe I aint making myself clear.

[James Pierce]

Newview,

Show me where violating Torah was now permitted? I can show you where Paul said he ONLY agrees with what agrees with the Torah and Prophets.

[newview]

James - we do have a different covenant than the old one - right?
Some things had to have changed - wouldnt you agree?

[James Pierce]

Newview,

The same Torah of the OT is the same Torah of the NT. Nothing was changed, just transferred.

Acts 24:14,"I believe everything that agrees with the Law and that is written in the Prophets." Will you too believe everything that agrees with the Torah and the Prophets? If you see scripture that does not agree with the Torah and the Prophets..

Will you disregard the Torah & Prophets? Yes, you would.. therefore, although you claim to follow Paul, you really do not, because Paul was a Pharisee, and he kept Torah, just like Yahushua. Are you ready to keep Torah, Newview?

[Anna]

Sis Eeah'ooay

Do you understand
1) with whom the "New Covenant" is made?
2) that His laws (torah - H8451) are to be written on the hearts of those in covenant with Him?

This New Covenant was not prophecied to be made with the Christians.
This covenant was prophecied to be made with "The House of Israel and the House of Judah".

Jer. 31:
[31] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the ***house of Israel, and with the house of Judah***:

[33] But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put
***my law (TORAH 8451)*** in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

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So please show us WHEN Israel and Judah accepted a New Covenant with our Messiah starting from His day until today.

Please give us book of the Bible, the chapter and verse showing that the Jews/Israel accepted their Messiah and a covenant with Him.

It is essential that you note WHAT LAWS are written in the heart of the Believer, to understand the New Covenant.

Once you understand that, you can never again speak against the "Old Testament Law" (Torah) being not part of the "New Covenant...."

[BruthaPharoah]

"The day of the Lord"

Isaiah66 15For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

16For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

17They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

18For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory

[BruthaPharoah]

Isaiah 65 (King James Version)

Isaiah 65
1I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.

2I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts;

3A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;

4Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;

5Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

6Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom,

[Anna]

To the Swine Eaters, have you read the Prophet Isaiah who prophecied about:

"The Highway of Holiness

Isaiah 35:
[8] And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
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Those of you whose God is your belly, who make yourselves 'unclean' by eating swine and other forbidden things, let this be your warning, and call to repent or you won't be allowed to travel on it.

[James Pierce]

Here is the chart of what Pork does to your body..

http://www.askthemeatman.com/pork_Trichinosis.htm

Yah knows what He's doing.... Obey the dietary laws... AND ALL OF TORAH

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Why didn't it mention swine as the main cause? Your post defeats your purpose! According to your information, its not swine itself that is bad, but swine not prepared properly.