Commandment of food laws. Should we eat all things, or should we eat only what Yah commands?

[James Pierce]

Anyone?

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

Again . . .

Sorry Hezekiah,

We'll have to agree to disagree on this Second Death as well as your belief on salvation. I stand firm on this fact with no wavering.

I am saved; there will be no second death for me - only eternal life with my Lord and all of the other saints.

Peace unto you in Jesus Name

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

Sorry Hezekiah,

We'll have to agree to disagree on this Second Death as well as your belief on salvation. I stand firm on this fact with no wavering.

I am saved; there will be no second death for me - only eternal life with my Lord and all of the other saints.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

I can't do this agree to disagree. I just simply disagree, and can post the scriptures why. Would you like me to post the scriptures where all of the prophets, and all of the apostles, and even Jesus himself said keep the commandments that ye may have eternal life, everlasting righteousness, right to the tree of life, names written in the book, live for ever? All of that is love which is the keeping of the commandments. If you believe you are saved, that is fine with me.

Peace be unto you.

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Truth be told, there's no such thing as "agree to disagree". Thats a nice way/cop-out for separation and discord, for one is right, and one is wrong.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

The Dietary Law



Animals you can Eat

Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

Animals you cannot Eat

Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you. And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean unto you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and of their carcass shall ye not touch; they are unclean unto you.

Fish you can Eat

These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters; whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.

Fish you cannot Eat

And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat their flesh, but ye shall have their carcasses in abomination. Whatsoever have no fins nor scales in the waters, shall be an abomination unto you.

Birds you cannot eat

And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, And the vulture, and the kite after his kind; Every raven after his kind; And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckoo, and the hawk after his kind, And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl, And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat, All fowls that creep, going upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth; But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

Birds you can Eat

Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth; Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.

Here is a link for researched clean and unclean products. http://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/CUPL.html

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

That contradicts GOD's words to Noah. Moses was the one who made a covenants with GOD for Israel. Noah however is not the father of many nations, but ALL nations. You cling to the covenant of Israel, yet we live only by the covenant that GOD made with all men.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

What are you talking about Bro Trevor?

[James Pierce]

Trevor,

Yahuah did not make a covenant with all men, but only with His covenant people, Israel.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

He is right Trevor, you have to become apart of Israel. Israel is the church that the Gentile would seek.

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

You both contradict the Bible. GOD made a clear covenant with all men when HE made it with Noah. The covenant was that HE would not kill off the entire Earth by water anymore. The covenant made between GOD and Noah stated:

-GOD would no longer destroy all the Earth by flood
-man would have authority over all living beings
-all flesh was edible for all men
-do not eat the blood of a living thing
-the rainbow was the sign and seal of the covenant

This covenant was established with Noah and the seed after him for perpetual generations......thats you and I.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

The Promise started with Abraham. All flesh would not be edible for all men, or course don't eat the blood of a living thing. The rainbow is a sign that the Lord would not destroy the Earth by flood. The Bow represents life. Not the seal of the covenant. The seal of the covenant is the commandments of God.

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

The seal of WHICH covenant, sir? Not all covenants are the same! There are multiple covenants within the Old Testament, or did you not realize that?

- Noah made a covenant with GOD BEFORE the law was given to Moses. The offering for that covenant by Noah was a burnt offering. The seal of that covenant was the rainbow given by GOD.

- Abraham made a covenant with GOD BEFORE the Law was given to Moses. The offering for that covenant by Abraham was a burnt offering. The seal of that covenant was circumcision.

- Isaac made a covenant with GOD, requesting that if GOD would return him to the land safely, then HE would offer a tithe of all he had. GOD also renewed the covenant of Abraham with Isaac.

- GOD renewed the covenant of Abraham with Isaac.

- GOD made a covenant with Israel represented by Moses. The offering for that covenant by Moses and the children of Israel was a burnt offering and blood. The seal of that covenant was the honoring of the Sabbath day, and circumcision.

- Joshua renewed the covenant by circumcising the children of Israel again.

- King Hezekiah made/renewed a covenant with GOD on behalf of Israel. The offering was a sacrifice of praise and the keeping of the Passover.

All of these covenants are separate and yet they all point to the one true and perfect covenant: the covenant made between man and GOD, with the Son of Man/GOD being the Mediator of the covenant. The sacrifice was the blood of JESUS. The seal of the covenant is the Holy Spirit Himself. Nevertheless, I am dealing with one covenant in particular, and its not Abraham's covenant. The covenant made between GOD and man with Noah as the mediator was one that allowed for all flesh to be eaten. This covenant is an everlasting covenant with all men from all lands. The covenant of Abraham was not for all men, but for his sons, and that didn't even include Torah of Moses, because Moses wasn't born yet!! No where in the covenant of Abraham of the covenant of Noah did it even mention keeping commandments, and Abraham's covenant was specifically made for his seed. The seal of that one once again was circumcision. No New Testament teachings made by any of the Apostles or JESUS Himself state that they taught the new believers in Christ to:

-be circumcised
-keep dietary laws
-keep the Sabbath

Please sow where exactly did any Apostle, JESUS or otherwise, teach the following:
-be circumcised
-keep dietary laws
-keep the Sabbath