the church says, tell us lies
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
the bible teaches us that those who were beheaded, what does this mean? will Christians in these days be beheaded?, of course not, so what dose this verse mean?
here God is telling us that those who teach the true gospel will be shunned, or in a way made to be quiet, as if they have been beheaded,John the Baptist was beheaded to shut him up,he was beheaded physically, well in this country that won't happen, but they if you are a true child of God, and you tell people the truth about the bible, how God is no longer using the churches to proclaim the word of God, and that he has called us out of the churches, and that women were not allowed to teach or preach or usurp authority over the man in the congregation, you will find yourself being asked to leave a church for telling the truth these last days.
in a sense you will be beheaded,the bible says they will not endure sound doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3For the time will come when they will not take the true teaching; but, moved by their desires, they will get for themselves a great number of teachers for the pleasure of hearing them;
here God is telling us that in the last days, now, that people will not want the truth of the gospel, they will ask to have smooth words preached top them, like the Oprah-Ology or the false gospel of Osteen-ism, they don't want to hear about hell and damnation,judgment and such things,the bible tells us here Isaiah 30:10 Who say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Do not give us word of what is true, but say false things to give us pleasure:
you see the prophesy of God here, has come to pass exactly as he said it would.
the bible teaches us that those who were beheaded, what does this mean? will Christians in these days be beheaded?, of course not, so what dose this verse mean?
here God is telling us that those who teach the true gospel will be shunned, or in a way made to be quiet, as if they have been beheaded,John the Baptist was beheaded to shut him up,he was beheaded physically, well in this country that won't happen, but they if you are a true child of God, and you tell people the truth about the bible, how God is no longer using the churches to proclaim the word of God, and that he has called us out of the churches, and that women were not allowed to teach or preach or usurp authority over the man in the congregation, you will find yourself being asked to leave a church for telling the truth these last days.
in a sense you will be beheaded,the bible says they will not endure sound doctrine.
2nd Timothy 4:3For the time will come when they will not take the true teaching; but, moved by their desires, they will get for themselves a great number of teachers for the pleasure of hearing them;
here God is telling us that in the last days, now, that people will not want the truth of the gospel, they will ask to have smooth words preached top them, like the Oprah-Ology or the false gospel of Osteen-ism, they don't want to hear about hell and damnation,judgment and such things,the bible tells us here Isaiah 30:10 Who say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Do not give us word of what is true, but say false things to give us pleasure:
you see the prophesy of God here, has come to pass exactly as he said it would.
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Permalink Reply by Pastor Rodrick Sweet,ThM on
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Yes, and so did Paul and we to must do the same. We must also do it with gentleness and respect. The thing is to win the brothers back to the truth. As I'm preaching on the lies found in the WFM I too have called out names but not hurt any of these bad/poor preachers/pastors but to help the sheep be on watch for the false shepherds that look to hurt the church. It is out of love for the Lord that we must call out names. Just remember Gal. 6:1 Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted.
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Permalink Reply by Lester Demings Jr on
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Wow, its amazing how quick we are to get so "spiritual" on certain issues when it comes to "certain" people.
How am I hurting them by calling them what they are?
I won't apologize but I am not with this new "soft" doctrine that is being preached.
When you wrong you need to be called on it and if you don't get it corrected you should be removed- plain and simple.
The church needs to find out which gospel they are going to follow- the TRUE doctrine or the doctrine of the enemy. -
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First, thank you for at least being nice but I am really tired of people telling me HOW I should post. If you don't like what I have to say then the best thing to do is what I do and that is ignore what is being said and move on. Those who can accept it will and those that won't don't have to. Unlike many people here I am not going to break my neck and run my fingers tired or talk about you negatively in this open forum trying to convince anyone of anything. I speak it and move on. Honestly, there is nothing wrong with how I am posting here. I have NEVER had an issue with how I speak or post in a forum until I came here. If the church wasn't so weak then maybe what I have said (and I have heard worse) would not be taken so harshly. I don't think I speak harshly. I have seen worse in here but NOT ONCE have a seen a message to THAT person regarding their speech and they demean and belittle people because they won't acknowledge them or believe in them. So, let's not try and single me out. It won't go well. I appreciate what you have said but I do not agree.
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Permalink Reply by Adrian Lamar West Sr. on
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Do you not Know that many of the conflicts in Africa are between Christians and Muslims, and that the Islamists come saying as their prophet Muhammad said too many in his day, Worship Allah or die, and they whom did not worship were be-headed.
Wow and you talking about pimps
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For some reason my post is here! Let's get one thing right, I'm not saying that you are hurting the false teacher, But what I am saying is you need to think about the new believers as well as an immture ones. Your tone to them may comes off as hard, cold and unloving. I think that may not be the case, I do not presume know your heart! As for being so spiritual we are to be spiritual on every matter. If you only follow the passages that says call out the false teacher, only to not follow the ones on restoring (if they repent) them, you become the very thing that you hate!!
You are right when you say that the church must take a stand as to what doctrine it follows. I have said all this because truth matters. I too call out men that teach false doctrine, I too say that women should not preach. I also think that alot of preachers/pastor ejoied that little time that they had to look at the sisters page on yesterday (They are the true pimps). But we must not act like the enemy in order to defeat the enemy.... That's all I'm saying to you as well as the church I pastor! Every thing we say and do is to the glory of God not us, brother. What do you think?
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I hear what you saying and I agree however that is NOT my ministry so I cannot place myself where I have not been called. I grew up in a TRUE church. When you did wrong you were put in your place and shown the love needed but we got the WORD not this pitty-pat stuff they giving now. I am so tired of seeing this people commit all kinds of sin and then the church just breezes over it like its nothing but if someone else does it oh we want to drag their name through the mud. I am not a hateful, mean nor bitter person. I am what they call a MAN. I have a backbone and it's snapped into place 24/7. We have too many weak, soft-spoken men in the church. Men of old had a backbone and they raised soldiers in this army. What do we have now?
A bunch of pretty boys running around here with their eyebrows snatched, nails all done, face piled up with more makeup than Patti LaBelle talking foolishness; or they go to school get some education and think they ready to tell somebody something.
God forbid someone says something they don't like. Then you see the REAL them in all their glory.
I'm glad I was brought up how I was because it made a man out of me. I may be of this young generation but you just can't come to me offering me the "world" and think I'm going to bow to you.
I'm not a mean person at all never have been but I am just not one for the foolishness.
The church has sat back for too long allowing this mess because they don't want to hurt feelings. If I had not had my feelings "hurt" every once in a while I'd be a mess just like the rest. But I had my feelings hurt to make me better- not destroy my spirit.
Paul told us to endure hardness as a good soldier.
Who preaches that anymore?
I went through hardness growing up and I was able to stand because I had a leader who TAUGHT me how to stand.
How do you get saved on Sunday and preaching the next Sunday?
Then have a church in 6 months?
Then a bishop in a year?
What kind of mess is that?
This is the type of stuff I see right here on this site and it is sad that NO ONE speaks on it.
If the church has a doctrine (which it does in the Word of God) it needs to STAND on this and let no one move them.
My words (as hard as they may seem) are not what is hurting the church it is these wavering, lying, deceitful people calling themselves children of God who are as far away from God as the sun is from the earth.
Those who WANT to be restored will be restored but those that think they can do what they please because of who they are THOSE are the ones who I speak to.
I love everyone but foolishness I do not play when it comes to God and/or His Word.
That's one game I won;t even attempt to play.
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Permalink Reply by Preacher on
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The whole purpose of this post was to teach what the bible says, God calls his people,true believers,born again,elect from before the foundation of the world. truly saved,the true church of Christ, the body of believers all over the world, to come out fro under the authority of the churches..not some ALL. I gave scripture and verses. check for yourself my friends.
God Bless
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Brother, please excuse me if I missed something, but where can it be found that God called people out of the his church? That dose not sound like the Bible I read. In Hebrews the writer calls us to the church (Heb.10:25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.) The word translated assembling is episunagôgê; this is a Noun Feminine, meaning a gathering together in one place also found in 2 Thess. 2:1. So where did this ideal come from.
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Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
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It is trifling, for so many who claim to know God, because of what the old-school pimps taught them. One who has been taught, and so-called learned, should also note that "there is nothing new under the sun." so who are we too call our brothers and sisters pimps, or any other. You don't read pimp or simp in the word of the Most High. Everyone now is is trying too dismiss the preacher,Bishop or any other who is prospering while doing the will of God. But the amusing part of all of this is that, perhaps they are doing the will of God.
Could it be possible that they have left (forsaken all too follow Christ), Trutly Christ himself says that they who do as such shall receive more in this life and the next.
Be assured that there are many false prophets in the world today, as in yesterday.
??? for the so-called all knowing on this site. If you made the call too meet you in D.C., Atlanta, Or Africa how many would meet you there?
Make sure that jealously and envy, are not leading your drive into strife, remember Elijah thought that he was the only one left also.....................................
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As the old folks say, "A hit pig will squeal."
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