The Trinity is Bibical

[Rev. Derek Joshua E'Lon]

Is The Trinity Biblical?
From the Christian Research Institute
www.equip.org
The Trinity is a basic doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Yet the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Is the doctrine of the Trinity really biblical?
The doctrine of the Trinity says that there is one All Mighty One (God) who exists eternally as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I can assure you that the elements of this doctrine are all taken directly from the Bible.
The first plank of the Trinitarian platform is that there is only one All Mighty One (God). The Bible could not be more explicit on this point, which it states explicitly about two dozen times. In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!
Yahshua (Jesus) often spoke of the All Mighty One (God) as His Father, and the apostles frequently spoke of "the Almighty One (God) the Father." But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God). For example, Thomas acknowledged Yahshua (Jesus) as, "My Lord(master) and my Almighty One (God)" (John 20:28), and both Peter and Paul spoke of Yahshua (Jesus) as "our All Mighty One (God) and Savior" (2 Pet. 1:1; Tit. 2:13). Yet the New Testament also makes the distinction between the Father and the Son as two very different persons. In fact they tell us that they love one another, speak to each other, and seek to glorify each other (e.g., John 17: 1-26).
The Old Testament refers often to the Holy Spirit as The Almighty One (God) at work in the world, without distinction from the Father. But Yahshua (Jesus) in John 14 to 16 explained that this Holy Spirit would be sent by the Father at the Messiah’s (Christ's) request. The Holy Spirit would teach and guide the disciples, not speaking on His own initiative, but speaking on the Messiah’s 9Christ's) behalf and glorifying The messiah (Christ). Thus, the Holy Spirit is revealed by The Messiah (Christ) to be a third person distinct from the Father and distinct from the Son.
In short, the doctrine of the Trinity is completely and totally biblical, and it is essential that all the Followers of the Messiah Yahshua (Christians) give assent to this doctrine.

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Trinitarians believe in three gods! They may not recognize that fact, they may not be conscious of that. It's simply by ignorance.

Let us see why trinitarians are polytheists:

They believe that there are THREE PERSONS IN GOD"

Father = one Person

The Son = one Person

Holy Spirit = one person


The Father is not the Son

The Son is not the Father

The Father is not the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit is not the Father

The Son is not the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit is not the Son


The Father is God + the Holy Spirit is God + the Son is God = THREE PERSONS


If the Father is a God seperate from the Son,

If the Father is a God seperate from the Holy Spirit,

If the Son is a God seperate from the Holy Spirit,

If the three are coequal and coeternal, coendless, then why do you refuse to believe that you are polytheists?

Why do you refuse to admit that you believe in three seperate, coequal and coeternal gods!

I stilll wonder!

Trinitarians, this is your faith:

One God (The Father)+ One God(The Son)+ One God(the Holy Spirit) = THREE PERSONS

Can someone explain me why three Gods make THREE PERSONS but ONE GOD?

You have not answered my question yet!

Please, do not tell me tales, but I need your biblical references!


Bro. Germain

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

WHERE WERE GOD THE FATHER AND GOD THE SPIRIT WHEN GOD THE SON WAS PHYSICALLY ON EARTH?


Bro. Germain

[Caral]

Hi Bro. Germain,

Perhaps the below verses will shed some light.

As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." Matt 3:16, 17

[Caral]

Bro. Germain

This has been answered over and over again.

Perhaps if you could kindly take the time to read some of the posts, from brother Anthony or Brother Trevor, you may (I pray) see the truth.

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Sister Caral,

So, according to Matt 3:16, 17, you think that three PERSONS WERE IN ACTION:

THE SON WHO WAS ON EARTH

THE FATHER WHO WAS IN HEAVEN

THE SPIRIT OF GOD DESCENDING LIKE A DOVE

So, do you want to suggest that since the son has ascended, there are henceforth THREE PERSONS ON THE THRONE IN HEAVEN?

Please, explain me!

Please, do not ask me to refer to the fables of Anthony Watson and Trevor.

Please, take your Bible and explain me this:

since the SON, "THE SECOND PERSON OF THE TRINITY" has ascended, are there henceforth THREE PERSONS ON THE THRONE IN HEAVEN?

I'm waiting for your answer!

Bro. Germain

[Caral]

Dear Bro. Germain

Your post exudes impatience and crossness.
I referred you to my brothers' most excellent posts, and yet you dismiss them as fables. Therefore I believe that my own contribution will also be regarded as fable, and consequently perhaps our energies could be put to better use, rather wasting both my own time and yours.

Blessings
Caral

[Della Morton]

Teaching Philip K Panyen (a trinitarian minister) about the One God. 1-19-09 by Steven D. Ashe
Here Is A recorded conversation between two ministers you will find very enlightening!


steven_ashe: Are you here?

philipkpanyen: Yes

philipkpanyen: I am here

steven_ashe: My yahoo crashed and had to reboot

philipkpanyen: likewise here

philipkpanyen: Just got back

steven_ashe: In the Hebrew language they always used plural words to describe God. Not that God was more than one but that in their belief and in trying to give Him the great honor He deserves they use what is called "Majestic Plurality" to describe Him.

steven_ashe: Example in Gen. 1 He is called 'Elohim' which is a word that means 'Gods'.

philipkpanyen: Yes because you have all right to have all names

steven_ashe: But you and I know that the Hebrew people only believed in the one and only single God.

philipkpanyen: Good

philipkpanyen: Friend i like God till i cry at time just to see him

steven_ashe: Here is another example for that same word being used found in:

steven_ashe: Exodus 32:23 (KJV)

23 For they said unto me, Make us gods, which shall go before us: for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.

philipkpanyen: I am planning to write books praising him

steven_ashe: See the word 'gods'???

steven_ashe: Are you paying attention to me or just typing without seeing what I am trying to teach you?

philipkpanyen: Very sweet

steven_ashe: Are you paying attention to me or just typing without seeing what I am trying to teach you?

philipkpanyen: I am paying 100% attention to you

steven_ashe: Do you see the word 'gods' in the verse I typed???

steven_ashe: ????????

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Here is another verse

steven_ashe: Exodus 32:8 (KJV)

8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: See the word 'gods' there????

philipkpanyen: Yes Example in Gen. 1 He is called 'Elohim' which is a word that means 'Gods'.

steven_ashe: You are not following me, if you want to teach this then you type all you want to as you are losing track of the direction I am going.

philipkpanyen: Oh my friend i am with you

steven_ashe: Then stop sidetracking my direction

philipkpanyen: I am reading through

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: You saw the word 'gods' in both Exodus 32: 8 and 32:23 right???

philipkpanyen: Yes i do

steven_ashe: Read these verses now:

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: Exodus 32:8 (KJV)

8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.



Exodus 32:19-20 (KJV)

19 And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.

20 And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it.

steven_ashe: Exodus 32:24 (KJV)

24 And I said unto them, Whosoever hath any gold, let them break it off. So they gave it me: then I cast it into the fire, and there came out this calf.

steven_ashe: Read those verses and then I will ask you a very serious and important question.

philipkpanyen: I am through now friend

philipkpanyen: I am waiting for the question.

steven_ashe: Ok

steven_ashe: Here is my first question in all these verse I gave you that has the word 'gods' mentioned how many golden calfs were there that Aaron made???

philipkpanyen: 1

steven_ashe: Correct, yet they describe it as 'gods' correct????

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: So that tells me that when the Bible speaks of God as 'Elohim' it does not mean a trinity of 'gods' but a single one God, right???

philipkpanyen: Right

steven_ashe: Correct.

steven_ashe: For the Bible never mentions a trinity of 'gods' or a trinity of 'persons' or a trinity of anything to do with God but does mention multible ways or modes that this one God manifests Himself to man.

steven_ashe: You understand?

philipkpanyen: Yeah

steven_ashe: So, now read my personal Statement of the Godhead:

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: My Personal Statement Of The Godhead© Let me first say that I DO BELIEVE in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit/Ghost and I have no problem using those terms or titles at various times in teaching, preaching, praying, writing, or any other type of communications. I believe these 3 terms, or better yet, ‘titles’ are expressions of the One God, not in ‘persons’, but in modes or manifestations of His working, presents and involvement with mankind past, present and future. There is only one God who is called by the title ‘Father’ and only one body/flesh of God called by the title ‘Son’ and only one indwelling Spirit of God called by the title Comforter-Holy Ghost-Spirit. How-be-it there are many titles and various expressions of what God is called in the Bible there is only one family

steven_ashe: family name that is above every other name or title in Heaven, on earth and under the earth that has been given to us to be called by, saved by and live by and it is that one name that we know as the ‘I am he’ and that is the name Jesus Christ. The teaching of a 3 person 'trinity' is a false doctrine and I do not support any false gospel. Galatians 1:8-9 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

steven_ashe: I am Apostolic in Doctrine - Acts 2:38-47, Pentecostal in Experience - Acts 2:1-4 and Oneness in Belief - Deut. 6:4; Zechariah 14:9; Matthew 1:23; John 1:14; 1 Timothy 3:16; Colossians 2:9-10 Apostolic means one who believes, practices, teaches and/or preaches the same identical doctrine (teachings) of Jesus and the original Apostles as detailed in Acts 2:38-47. Acts 2:38-39 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

steven_ashe: The New Testament Plan of Salvation is a 3 step process or 3 keys as Jesus gave Peter the ‘Key’s of the Kingdom of heaven’ in Matthew 16:19 and Peter then preached the first full and complete Salvation message in Acts 2 (to the Jews - see also Luke 24:47 = repentance and remission of sins [baptism in Jesus name] should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem), then again in Acts 8 (to the Samaritans) and once again in Acts 10 (to the Gentiles). This correlates perfectly with the blood being applied in Exodus by Moses and

steven_ashe: the children of Israel on their 2 door posts and the top lentil across the door. If any one of the 3 locations was overlooked or missed the ‘death angel’ would not Passover that home but come and take in death the oldest son and animals. Such is the importance of the 3 keys of Acts 2:38, neither you nor I, can afford to miss any one of the 3 locations of the application of the cleansing blood of Jesus for these are the Death, Burial and Resurrection (Gospel) made full and complete in our lives.

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: You read my full and complete message?

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Good, any questions???

philipkpanyen: No

philipkpanyen: i have read the bible

philipkpanyen: and do my studies sometime too

steven_ashe: OK, so tell me how you think one should be baptized, what words are to be spoken over them when they are put underwater???

philipkpanyen: i was baptized 2 times, i was a kid..i cant remember word 4 word

steven_ashe: What was the main words? Did you get baptized with the words 'father, son and holy ghost' spoken or the name of Jesus Christ???

philipkpanyen: father,son and holy ghost

steven_ashe: Ok, let me give you some more Scriptures ok?

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: Zechariah 14:9 (KJV)

9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

steven_ashe: How many LORDS are mentioned here and how many names???

philipkpanyen: Okay

philipkpanyen: 1

steven_ashe: 1 Lord and 1 name right???

philipkpanyen: Yeah

steven_ashe: Ok, good

steven_ashe: Now in Matthew 16:19 Jesus give Peter the 'keys to the kingdom of heaven. No one else but only Peter right?

steven_ashe: Matthew 16:18 (KJV)

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Matthew 16:18-19 (KJV)

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.





steven_ashe: Right?

philipkpanyen: Right?

philipkpanyen: Right

steven_ashe: Ok

steven_ashe: Now Jesus said in

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: Luke 24:47, Matthew 28:19 and Mark 16:15-18 that the gospel should be preached first in Jersulam then if all the rest of the world, right???

steven_ashe: Luke 24:47 (KJV)

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.



Matthew 28:19 (KJV)

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:



Mark 16:15-18 (KJV)

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

philipkpanyen: Yeah

steven_ashe: Ok good, you are following my direction ok???

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Peter was the only one with the Keys to unlock the gospel message to the world (others like Paul etc had them later but Peter was the first) right???

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Ok, next

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: Who was the one that first preached in Jerusalem???

philipkpanyen: Peter

steven_ashe: Right

steven_ashe: And who was the one that first told the Samaritans in Acts 8 about the Gospel plan of salvation???

philipkpanyen: ?

steven_ashe: Peter in verse 14 - 17

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: Acts 8:14-17 (KJV)

14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

steven_ashe: Peter used the 'keys' to unlock the holy Ghost for them

steven_ashe: See it???

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Ok, good

steven_ashe: Next

steven_ashe: In Acts 10 who told the gentiles first about the Gospel plan of salvation?

philipkpanyen: Tell me

steven_ashe: Acts 10:25 (KJV)

25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.



Acts 10:34 (KJV)

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:



Acts 10:44 (KJV)

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

steven_ashe: You see and follow my teaching of the Bible truth of the correct Keys???

philipkpanyen: Okay

steven_ashe: Ok, good

steven_ashe: Lets review quickly before I continue

philipkpanyen: Ok

steven_ashe: Peter was given the Keys to the New Testament Plan of Salvation right???

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Peter was the first one to teach and preach those 'KEYS' in Jerusalem to the Jews right?

philipkpanyen: right

steven_ashe: Ok, Peter was the first one to teach and preach those 'KEYS' to the Samaritans (half Jew and half Roman) right?

philipkpanyen: right

steven_ashe: Ok, Peter was the first one to teach and preach those 'KEYS' to the Gentiles right?

philipkpanyen: Yes

philipkpanyen: Ok

steven_ashe: So that means that Jesus when He gave Peter those 'KEYS' gave him a very great responsibility for if he got the message wrong everyone Peter preached to and taught would be taught wrong and would be lost due to false information. Right?

philipkpanyen: right

steven_ashe: Ok

steven_ashe: You know that the book of Acts is the actual recorded actions (acts) of what Peter and all the other apostles preached, taught and practised right???

philipkpanyen: Ok

steven_ashe: Good, you agree right???

philipkpanyen: yes

steven_ashe: Ok, good

steven_ashe: Now, here is part 2 of my study:

steven_ashe: Ready?

philipkpanyen: Ok

steven_ashe: No where in any of the rest of the New Testament are there any baptisms mentioned or shown as they are all recorded in Acts only, right?

philipkpanyen: i dont have a bible

philipkpanyen: to check

philipkpanyen: right now

steven_ashe: Trust me as we will discover this fact in this study.

steven_ashe: ok

steven_ashe: ?

philipkpanyen: Ok

steven_ashe: Now, in Acts 2:14 it tells us that Peter stood up with (in agreement with) the other 11 disciples (later called Apostles) right?

steven_ashe: Acts 2:14 (KJV)

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Ok,

steven_ashe: So what ever KEYS Peter used on that day is the same identical KEYS the others agreed with and used themselves in the rest of the Bible, right??? Remember they are all in agreement with Peter who had the original KEYS given him by Jesus.

philipkpanyen: Yes

steven_ashe: Ok, good

philipkpanyen: Ok

philipkpanyen: my dog here

steven_ashe: Now we know according to God Word that no man can change His Word or teachings right? Once God puts a plan into action it is set (forever oh lord thy word is settled in heaven Psalm 119:89) right?

steven_ashe: Psalms 119:89 (KJV)

89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

philipkpanyen: Thank you so much my good friend

philipkpanyen: I have to go for devotion now

philipkpanyen: May God bless and protect you

philipkpanyen: Thank you so much\

philipkpanyen: I appreciate all you have done for me

steven_ashe: Ok, we will continue this next time if you still want to know truth.

steven_ashe: Jesus Bless you my friend.

philipkpanyen: likewise my friend

steven_ashe: We're just getting to the good part.

steven_ashe: ttyl



Pick up with



#1.

Galatians 1:8-9

1 John 2:19

2 John 1:9-10

Jude 3 2 Corin. 1:13

Rom 16:17

Rom 8:38-39

Deut. 4:2

Deut. 13:1-3

Deut. 28:14

2 Corin. 11:3-4, 13-14

Prov. 30:5-6

#2.

'A Study in Acts - Baptism

Acts is the only New Testament book where any baptisms are recorded and everyone of them were done in the name of our Lord and Savior ‘Jesus Christ’. Also no one every preached or taught in the titles of Father, Son or Holy Ghost at all but in the one name of those titles – Jesus Christ. There is nothing wrong with using those titles in preaching, teaching, etc as long as the user and listener knows that they just that ‘TITLES’ and not the’ NAME’



Acts 2:38 Peter who had the Keys of the Kingdom which were, and are, the words whereby we are to be saved by (Matthew 16:19; Acts 4:12; 10:34 & 36; 11:14), preached Jesus Christ. This is what the Apostles Doctrine was, is and always will be – see verse 42 also Acts 13:12 (Galatians 1:8-9; 2 Corinthians 11:2-3; 2 John 1:9-10; Jude verse 3; Revelations 22:18-19) and also this is where the one and only ‘church’ was born and established - see verse 47 (also Acts 5:14; 6:7; 11:20, 21, 24).

Acts 8:12 Here Philip preached and baptized both men and women in the name of Jesus Christ.

Acts 8:16 Peter again preaches Jesus Christ and then baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus [Lord Jesus is a shorter way of saying they were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. No abbreviations or alterations were every authorized or approved by Jesus or the Apostles. (Galatians 1:8-9; 2 Corinthians 11:2-3; 2 John 1:9-10; Jude verse 3; Revelations 22:18-19)].

Acts 9:18 Paul then called Saul (Acts 13:9) was baptized in Jesus’ name (See verse: 5, 20, 27 and 29; 4:12; 17:3, 18; 18:5; Colossians 3:17).

Acts 10:47-48 Peter preached Jesus Christ (see verse 36, 38 and 11:17; 15:17) and here he baptized the first Gentiles in the name of the Lord [Lord is a shorter way of saying they were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. No abbreviations or alterations were every authorized or approved by Jesus or the Apostles. (Galatians 1:8-9; 2 Corinthians 11:2-3; 2 John 1:9-10; Jude verse 3; Revelations 18:19)].

Acts 16:15 Lydia which worshiped God, heard Paul preach Jesus Christ (Romans 1:16; Acts 17:18) the Lord opened her understanding as he did to the disciples in the beginning (Luke 24:45) and she was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 16:15; 4:12; 17:3; 19:3-5; Romans 1:16; Colossians 3:17).

Acts 16:30-33 The keeper of the prison asked what must he do to be saved (Acts 2:37) and was told to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38, 42) and he was baptized, he and all his family in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38, 42; 4:12; 17:3; 18:5; 19:3-5; Colossians 3:17).

Acts 17:23 Paul preached to the men of Athens who had built an altar unto the UNKNOWN GOD was none other than Jesus Christ.

Acts 18:8 Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue in Corinth and all his house and many of the residents living there heard and believed and were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. (Romans 1:16; Acts 4:12; 18:5; Colossians 3:17).

Acts 18:24, 28 Apollos taught and preached publicly showing by the Scriptures (the only scriptures they had at that time was the Old Testament) that Jesus was Christ (even Jesus told the Jews at Jerusalem to search the Old Testament for they testified of Him and Him alone - John 5:39).

Acts 19:1-5 Paul asked found certain disciples and asked them if they had received the Holy Ghost since then believed (Acts 2:38; John 7:37-39; John 3:3, 5, 7) and they said they had not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost and they Paul asked them a most important question: ‘Unto what then were ye baptized? And hearing their answer preached Jesus Christ to them and when they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus then Paul laid his hands (in prayer) on them and they received the Holy Ghost just as all true believers did (Acts 2:1-4 11:15).

Acts 19:13-16 Here even the vagabond Jews, exorcists took upon themselves to use the name Jesus Christ and try to rebuke evil spirits (demons) out of some people who were possessed just as Paul had been doing (verse 12). The only problem was that the demons knew these Jews did not have the authority to use the name of Jesus Christ for they had not obeyed the Apostles Doctrine (Acts 2:38, 42) by repenting and being baptized in His name (this is where, and how ‘calling on the name of the Lord’ is done) and receiving the infilling of the Holy Ghost. So even these false preachers knew enough to use the one and only name of God – Jesus Christ – and not the titles Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. And in Acts 19:17 because of the events of verses 13-16 the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.





"A Study In The Book Of Acts”

How Did The Original Apostles Baptize?© 1994, 2005, 2008





Here is my study called: ‘Who Is This Jesus We Love And Serve’.


Who Is This Jesus We Love And Serve?©

2004, 2008 by Steven D. Ashe and Study The Word Ministries®



First, let me set the tone of this study and my personal feelings of love, friendship and fellowship with all others as long as all are of a honest and truth seeking heart with this Scripture:

Ephesians 4:13 (KJV)
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

I personally subscribe to the following declaration of the things which are more surely believed among us (Luke 1:1 [KJV] Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,), praying that there be neither harmful nor divisive difference of belief to the injury of any, nor the disturbance of the peace and harmony of the church, and that we maybe all of the same mind and same judgment, speaking the same things in love (1 Corinthians 1:10 [KJV] Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. And Acts 2:42 [KJV] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.) and with one voice glorifying God, to the edification of His people, and to give a true full and complete Christian witness to the world.

My Statement of Faith:

There is one God, called the Father, who manifested Himself in a body of flesh, called the Son, which was named Jesus Christ, and now indwells in us, and is called, the Holy Ghost/Spirit. I do believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit/Ghost and I have no problem using those terms or titles at various times in teaching, preaching, praying, writing, or any other type of communications. I do believe these 3 terms, or better yet, ‘titles’ are expressions of the One God, not in ‘persons’, but in modes or manifestations of His working, presents and involvement with mankind past, present and future.

For my complete Bible Study Lessons Series on the Godhead send your request for ‘The Godhead Lessons Series by e-mail to: [e-mail]



Scripture Base for this study:

John 8:24 (KJV)
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Questions to be pursued and answered:

1. What name did our Savior come in? Work in? And declare unto the world?

2. What is the name of the Father? And of the Son? And of the Holy Ghost?

3. What did Jesus mean when he said that we must know he is the "I am He" or we will die in our sins?

4. Are there 3 'persons' in the Godhead or 3 'manifestations' of the ONE GOD? or does it really matter if we know or not?

Scriptural Answer:

1. God (the Father) of the Old Testament declares that one day 'all will know His name' and that He is the 'I am he'.

Isaiah 52:6 (KJV)
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.



2. God declares that in that day there will be One King who is the ONE LORD and He will have only ONE NAME.

Zechariah 14:9 (KJV)
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.



3. The Father's name is what all the family in heaven and earth is named after.

Ephesians 3:14-15 (KJV)
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,



4. Jesus came in His Father's name.

John 5:43 (KJV)
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.



5. Jesus said He was the Father.

John 10:30 (KJV)
30 I and my Father are one.



6. Holy Ghost/Spirit was the father of the Son-Jesus.

Matthew 1:18 (KJV)
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 1:20 (KJV)
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Luke 1:35 (KJV)
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.



7. Jesus inherited His Father's name.

Hebrews 1:4 (KJV)
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Ephesians 3:14-15 (KJV)
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,



8. An angel of the Father named Jesus.

Matthew 1:20-21 (KJV)
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Luke 1:30-31 (KJV)
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.



9. Jesus name is higher than any other name, in heaven, on earth or under the earth.

Philippians 2:9-10 (KJV)
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;



10. Jesus came in the name of the LORD.

Matthew 21:9 (KJV)
9 And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.
Matthew 23:39 (KJV)
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Mark 11:9-10 (KJV)
9 And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:
10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.
Luke 13:35 (KJV)
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Luke 19:38 (KJV)
38 Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.
John 12:13 (KJV)
13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.


11. The Father is the only LORD.

Isaiah 37:16 (KJV)
16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.
Isaiah 43:3 (KJV)
3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Isaiah 43:11 (KJV)
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isaiah 43:15 (KJV)
15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.
Isaiah 45:5-6 (KJV)
5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:18 (KJV)
18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.


12. Only One LORD, One Faith and One Baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 (KJV)
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,



13. Jesus is coming back in the name of the LORD.

Luke 13:35 (KJV)
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Luke 19:38 (KJV)
38 Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.



14. Jesus is both LORD and CHRIST.

Matthew 1:16 (KJV)
16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Matthew 1:18 (KJV)
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 2:4 (KJV)
4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
Acts 2:36 (KJV)
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 7:59 (KJV)
59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.



15. The Father is the only Immanuel.

Isaiah 8:8 (KJV)
8 And he shall pass through Judah; he shall overflow and go over, he shall reach even to the neck; and the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Immanuel.
Isaiah 8:10 (KJV)
10 Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us.



16. Jesus is the only Immanuel/Emmanuel.

Isaiah 7:14 (KJV)
14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Matthew 1:23 (KJV)
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Acts 15:14 (KJV)
14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
2 Timothy 2:16 (KJV)
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.



17. Jesus did all work in His Father's name.

John 10:25 (KJV)
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.


18. Jesus is the name of the Holy Ghost/Comforter.

John 14:26 (KJV)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Ephesians 3:14-15 (KJV)
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,



19. The Holy Spirit/Ghost/Comforter was the Father of Jesus.

Matthew 1:18 (KJV)
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 1:20 (KJV)
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Luke 1:35 (KJV)
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.



20. Jesus is the Comforter.

Notice in these following verses that the Holy Ghost/Spirit is to come to the disciples yet it is Jesus who is the one coming back to live inside of them.

John 14:16-18 (KJV)
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; (Note: In the original Greek reading this verse actually reads: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another way to be comforted". [W. E. Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words - The word Comforter or Consoler corresponds to the name 'Menahem', given by the Hebrews to the Messiah, so every Jew at that time knew who and what that 'comforter' is and would be - Jesus Himself] and then in verses 18 and 28 we see what that other way is, it is Jesus in spirit form coming back to live within us. Remember in Hebrews 13:5 Paul speaking of the Lord, who we know is Jesus, quotes part of 1 Kings 8:57 "for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee" and by these verses we see that Jesus never left us but lives in us via our own personal Pentecostal experience of Acts 2 as the Holy Ghost/Spirit.)
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John 14:28 (KJV)
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.



21. The Father is the 'I am he'.

Isaiah 41:4 (KJV)
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[Della Morton]

Why Are We called Hersey or a cult? Let's look at the facts> We don't believe in the trinity So That right there "we are classified as a Hersey doctrine! WHAT WE DO BELIEVE is the Original Apostles Doctrine found in the bible Acts 2:38-41.Most Trinitarians Refute That. We believe the word of God Is inspired of God and The TRUTH CANNOT be Found In No Other History Book or Man's Philosophy ! So Therefore We Are Classified In YOUR EYES MR. WATSON
a Cult.
Thank You. God Bless you! Love In CHRIST DELLA MORTON

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Sister Caral,

So, according to Matt 3:16, 17, you think that three PERSONS WERE IN ACTION:

THE SON WHO WAS ON EARTH

THE FATHER WHO WAS IN HEAVEN

THE SPIRIT OF GOD DESCENDING LIKE A DOVE

So, do you want to suggest that since the son has ascended, there are henceforth THREE PERSONS ON THE THRONE IN HEAVEN?

Please, explain me!

Please, do not ask me to refer to the fables of Anthony Watson and Trevor.

Please, take your Bible and explain me this:

since the SON, "THE SECOND PERSON OF THE TRINITY" has ascended, are there henceforth THREE PERSONS ON THE THRONE IN HEAVEN?

I'm waiting for your answer!

Bro. Germain

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons".

1 Timothy 4:1

One the favorite DOCTRINES taught by Demons is the "THE TRINITY": God in THREE PERSONS

Bro. Germain

[Caral]

Dear Bro. Germain

Your post exudes impatience and crossness.
I referred you to my brothers' most excellent posts, and yet you dismiss them as fables. Therefore I believe that my own contribution will also be regarded as fable, and consequently perhaps our energies could be put to better use, rather wasting both my own time and yours.

Blessings
Caral

[Rev & Mrs McKivett]

I Agree totally with the article and add anyone denying the trinty is a heretic and cannot be regarded as a christian, in fact on my website I will not allow anyone to join that denies the trinity.