When seeing and attending the confirmation services of Bishops by an organization, I am seeing women who are being ordained as Bishops.  I have read and studied the office of Bishop and have not understood nor found any of the ceremonial ordinations of women as Bishops, nor in God's Word have I found anything on women as Bishops.

 

1 Timothy 3 is the specific chapter speaking on the Office and Qualifications of the Bishop.  Is a Bishop also an Overseer or Superintendent or Elder or Chief Elder? 

 

Now, the Word of God, KJV, states "...If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; one that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not as a novice [one newly come to the faith], lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil..."  1 Timothy 3:1-7

 

As the head of his household, he is to plan, protect, and provide for his household which includes stewardship as he "ruleth well his own house..." (Titus 1:7).  We are to follow the Shepherd and Bishop of our souls, Jesus Christ (1 Peter 2:25).

 

This scripture, literally, is speaking of a man.  Any thoughts?

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Lovitha,

 

They ignore the Holy Spirit because  if they TRULY heard and listened to what the Holy Spirit said and HAS said then they'd see they are wrong and people have too much pride in this generation to admit when they were wrong.

 

When the church was being led by GOD Himself things ran a bit different but a whole lot better- but when men started trying to be a god and raising up their own kingdoms and re-writing the Word of God to fit their selfish and deceitful ways then you have what you have now.

 

We don't have churches anymore we have entertainment complexes, businesses and dens of whoredom and all manner of evil.

 

Place God back in His place and watch things change.

The older saints may not have been educated but they had POWER- what do we have?!

We have education, our big homes, cars, money, big churches and all manner of success but no power.

I'm sorry but I'd rather have what the older saints had because they stood regardless of what came and had POWER!!!

Pitbull,

I absolutely agree with you.  The tone from the 'educated' have been very condescending.  So glad that my parents and my husband has taught me to have a thick skin when it comes to the Word of God.  I use to have self-esteem issues back in the day.  Then I would have cried and taunted myself.  Now, I've learned how to fight diligently with God's Word through the Holy Ghost...

 

They are forcing me to continue in prayer for them and intercede for them.  Yes, I grew up with the generation that had Power and desire to see that Power renew itself in the 'new saints'.  The Saints of Old relied on the power of prayer, belief, and faith.  Where are these characteristics today?  Hardly found - few and far and in-between...

 

Talk with you more...

     I don't believe all seminary students or graduates think they are any more qualified to preach or teach the word of God than someone anointed with Holy Spirit and fire.

     This seminary mandate has been devised by man.  It is an "end times" perversion to attack those who are anointed by the Holy Spirit who may not have attended seminary.  Those who have sat on the front pew of there church week after week and have spent endless hours in self-study.  Those who have received an impartation from the hell-fire preaching man of God in their life.

     I don't care about anyone's school of divinity degree.  The more you talk about your degree and recite your resume the more I see that you are not walking in the will of God and ministry of Christ.  The test is whether or not God has called them and is using them in his church.  The test is can you preach and teach without reciting Spurgeon's commentaries?  Today people use seminary to call themselves into ministry. 

     I may finish seminary in a few years just because I like to finish whatever I start.

Sister Lovitha, it has gone because of the principalities that God warned His people about.  The deceiver has blinded the very elect.....but praise be to God that the UNSPOTTED that God speaks of in His word will be the ones who will be fully amored in this battle....and it is not with the words from the scholars, but the WORD of GOD.  Keep your feet shodded in the Word, and your other protective garment as God commanded, because the battle is not OURS and it has already been WON...Amen...

 

Continue to pray, fast and be led by the Holy Spirit who teaches us ALL things, not some....as the scholars would have some to believe....they are like Eve...being deceived by the subtle one....The saints of the old left a legacy behind...but NOTHING like the Word...it is the Word of God, who is the same yesterday, today and forever...

 

In Love Sister Denise

Bro. Greene and Watson, I thank you both for your humble responses and I pray God continues to hold you both dear to Himself.  Bro. Watson, I felt your gentleness and frustration of not understanding my continued stand on the KJV of the Bible...smiling  It is because I have read other versions, I have also studied the Holy Karan and the Torah, I've even studied with Jehovah witnesses.  I have accepted that because of cultural backgrounds and social environments of human beings that understanding will differ from one person to another, but Holy Scriptures I BELIEVE is the divinely inspired word of God and because I BELIEVE I won't waver in what it say.  See, I have stood on the word of God too long and have seen what it say and have been PURSUADED.  I mean I truly have encountered the TRUE promised blessing that God has promised as I have OBEYED what the scriptures has said about every aspect of my life.  If I do this...that will happen...If I don't do this etc.....I believe what the scripture say and I TRUST what it say, this is how I can stand on it.  When it tell me His thoughts are not like mine nor my ways like His and if I keep His commandments, statues He will do such and such...I believe it.  I have NEVER seen no where in the scriptures that what it say don't make no sense too me.  Whenever I need to know something, I go to the scripture, and there it is.  Even dialog with brothers such as the two of you, even if we don't agree, I can dialog with love and respect and even tell you what the scripture say whether you see what I see or not.  I will and cannot allow my finite mind to make the scripture line up to my way of thinking, but align my mind up with the Word and what it say.  I bring myself under subjection and command myself to OBEY the Word and I see results of the promise.  I walk by FAITH and not by sight.  I know that I can trust God because He has never failed me, but man has and so have I failed myself.....but when I decided to lean not to my own understanding and to trust God and know that He would increase my learning and send His comforting spirit to lead and guide me, which I read in KJV and didn't need the NKJV or the amplified to make it plainer, I understand it right where I am, because He reveals it to me, as He promised.  When Paul speak of slaves to obey their master, I take that as an analogy....that I am to obey who I serve and I serve God not man and that is because I know who I am.  Now back in slavery time, I guess slaves believed that way because they did obey their masters, but because their masters were so cruel, God saw fit to bring them out, but today you still have have people today in slavery, slavery in their minds, slavery on the jobs, but if they were to really see what God say in His Holy Word, in Christ Jesus they are free indeed and accept that word they would not have a problem with slavery.  I appreciate the two of you and your heart felt discussions.  I will trust in the Lord until I die and yes, brother Watson, I have dug my heels into the ground, because that is apart of the AMOUR of God to be shodded by the gospel and I trust God.  This is a battle and it is not a physical battle, it is a battle of the mind that is where the adversary get most then he invades the whole body,,,woohoooo  I feel the Holy Ghost about to start.  Believe me, I understand, but I will trust in the Lord and He will guide me and I know He will guide the both of you to if you let His will be done.

 

P.S.  Sister Shelton, I feel you lady...aint nothing like being spirit led.  Especially HIS spirit...hallellujah!

Love you both with the love of Christ.  In Love, Sister Denise

Good reply.  God says that he is not bending from his word!  Sermon:  "I'm Not Made To Bend."  Whenever we move (waiver) and accept the mind of men, it will cause you to wander.  This is the wilderness of the mind in Matthew Chapter 3.  People spend to much time wandering in the wilderness when God has given us his word.  Wandering will keep you from your blessing.  

Amen Bro. Pitbull...Wandering will keep you from your blessing.....wow!!!  See now that's what I call prophetic, this is why I say prophets still lives, because a statement like that is biblical but only coming from a brother or sister in this world today.  That is no lie, because wandering make you go all over the place instead of to the place...whew...that is a right NOW word.  Wandering is a spirit that allows one not to be satisfied....wow!!!!

Eccl:  6:9 Better is the sight of the eyes than the wandering of the desire: this is also vanity and vexation of spirit.


1 Tim 5:13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. 

In Love, sister Denise

Some people it will take 40 years wandering in the wilderness.  There doctor is telling them one thing and God is saying that there is healing in the Kingdom.

 

Some people it might take 20 years because Equifax, Transunion and Experian is telling them they can't purchase a new house, but God is saying , "I own the cattle upon a thousand hills."

 

The blessings of the Kingdom are now  and are for those who have the mind of Christ, who have the mind of the Kingdom.  Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus.

Amen Bro. Pitbull....on your reply below.  We must know that people refuse to heed 2 Cor 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ....meaning just what it say...even if you think something or imagine something, make it OBEY God....bring it into captivity...EVERY thought...make it OBEY God...if God say you are healed....then YOU ARE HEALED, bring it into captivity....if God say let NO MAN DECEIVE YOU...then LISTEN to ONLY GOD....how hard is that?  If God say "if you abide in me and MY WORDS abide in you....YOU can ask what you will and it SHALL be done unto you...what do people think that mean?  We must start OBEYING God and know that if we do what HE say to do...IT SHALL COME TO PASS...as it is written.  God doesn't want any to perish...it rains on the just as well as the unjust, but because we are not fighting flesh and blood, but the principalities of this earth....we must put on the WHOLE amour as God has commanded and know the battle is not ours and that the battle HAS already been WON.  He just want us to OBEY.  We just make it hard on ourselves, because we refuse to take HIS YOKE...for it is really EASY.  This is a Kingdom thang and it already has a KING...there is NO OTHER.  People want to bring the world system into the Kingdom of God and it will never work, because we already have a KING and His name is Jesus...God said it, I believe it and that settles it.  If we ONLY will obey, but remember...the curse of their forefathers is not broken until they repent and turn to the true and ONLY GOD..so the will continue to be disobedient...Oh Isreal...when will you learn.  I remember in the word of God where it say that God greived that He even created man...wow...that is a sad thing...because of His love and their disobedience....still happening today.

People say that you are judging when you speak like this...this is the WORD OF GOD...not mine and I will stand on it until the day I die.  They make excuses that NO ONE is perfect...God say be ye perfect...that means sincere, honest, upright...why do they make more out of what God say and put you into bondage...oh, because of their father which is the devil...that is what Jesus said.  When He said if ye love me you will keep MY commandments and if you don't you are of your father the devil...now is that truth or judgement....The TRUTH is what sets us free and people don't want freedom...what is that?

In Love Sister Denise

My Bro. Watson, I do understand and it is okay.  I tried to convey that in my posts, see ALL what you say is correct, but did you know that KJV allows the reader to know that words, names etc has been changed via using italized words and if the reader choose to seek else where for the original spellings it is okay, but for every example you gave, such as Pheobe being a deacon, but KJV called her a servant, what did you get out of her being called a deacon vs being called a servant?  Not much different in the word of God, we are ALL servants don't matter the title.  Then Red Sea vs Reed Sea, what more did you get from it being a sea?  See this is why the word of the Lord say let your nay be nay and your ya be ye, because anything other is deceitful and/or full of lies.  God said let there be light....do you find anything other than that?  Let the waters be devidded, do you get anymore from that....it is dangerous to dig for other information, this is how the woman was deceived....by seeking more than what God said and she was as she called it beguild...I call it deceived, but it remains the same, SHE DISOBEYED what God said and took the word of something/someone ole subtle thang...which made her and her household (husband) go the wrong way and death came and enmity between her seed and that seed of the serpent/devil/lucifer etc whatever you want to call it...I call it principalities of the earth, wickedness in high places, evil spirits who from the begining has always changed Gods word and make man believe.  See I can go to the scholars when I want to know about computers, cars, things of this world for which man created, be the things of God-His creation, I must go to the source.  Man will never have the answer to what God created, man will only have his thoughts of how it came about, but really man can tell you nothing, that is why we are forever learning...learning things of this world, but never about Gods creation...we must look to the creator of the creation.  I will go to scholars for the things of this world because they have shared information, but God only gives to those who ask Him and diligently seek Him and He will give it to them if only they would ask.  Now don't get me wrong, I respect scholars of science, but they too are seeking, but they are seeking in the wrong place, it would be much easier if they would ask the creator wouldn't you think.  But they like a lot don't believe so they choose to search out other answers because of their doubt.  But the difference between me and them...I DON'T DOUBT, so therefore I BELIEVE.  Oh, yes the woohooo I felt was the Holy Spirit confirming in my spirit that God was pleased that I could stand on His word inspite of.  I will stand regardless of opposition, because in the day that the beast shall rise up and ask who I stand for with the threat of beheading me...I can know for sure I will see His face, because I will say I believe God and have stood on His word regardless of the critics who have said that the Holy Bible was changed by a man etc.  But it is ironic how everyone can question the bible, but don't question the scholars who say the bible is wrong, or don't feel the other books are wrong, go figure.  But I will say it now and will always say it, I believe in the KJV of the Bible because I do understand it.  It is my understanding that they revised all the other bibles to make it easier to understand, but easier to understand who?  God say ask and it shall be given to you....that means ask for ANYTHING including knowledge of His Holy Word.

 

As for education, I am for education, because that is what helps us to live in this world, but to God be the glory, He has also gifted me with His spirit and greater is He that is within me than he that is in the World....and I know that, because I was pursuaded....I have seen what God can do, has done and will do.

 

In Love Sister Denise

Denise,

 

I enjoyed your response.

 

It is sad that people who are calling themselves children of God are taking God's Word to make THEIR opinions and feelings right.

There is nothing wrong with reading, studying and even going through the Word with a fine tooth comb but what I see alot of these people doing who do this is taking God's Word asnd twisting it, removing its worth or worse dismissing it all together just to prove their academic intelligence.


I guess next we'll be told that there is no such thing as the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues.

Lol the letter killeth but the spirit gives life.

Sister Denise,

 

Stay tuned, the plan is to expose more...

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