Can Jesus Christ Return at ANY MOMENT? Part 1
The second coming of Christ! Can it really happen tomorrow? Or, how about right now….at this very moment? Is it possible? Well, contrary to what most Christians believe, Christ’s second coming, or, “the rapture“, as some call it, cannot happen tomorrow. Nor can it happen this very second. Yes, you read correctly! It’s impossible!! Christ’s second return (Please note the scriptures ONLY speak of a 2nd return, not a 3rd or a 4th.) can ONLY happen if the signs that God has given us in His word have taken place. Now with that said, as of the writing of this lesson; 9 Jun 2009, I can say without any doubt in my mind…make that, I can guarantee, that Christ’s return WILL NOT happen any sooner than 9 Jun 2012!! That’s right!!! I said I can guarantee IT!! And the scriptures will prove it !!
So do I have your attention yet? Good!! That’s what I was hoping for. Now before you start calling me a blasphemer and a whole bunch of other names, please hear me out and read this entire lesson. I am not crazy! And no, I am not dealing with any secret codes hidden in the bible. The truth I am about to share with you is clearly written in the Holy Scriptures. And the scriptures clearly states that certain events MUST take place before the coming of the Lord. And until those events happen, Jesus CAN NOT RETURN!!! Why? Because, it is “…impossible for God to lie…”, Heb 6:18.
As church going families, I’m sure we all have been taught that Jesus’ second coming could happen any day now…even any second. And I must admit, for a long time I was living with the fear that, at any moment Christ could come back to earth to pass judgment on us all. But is the ‘any day rapture’ doctrine supported by the Holy Scripture? Does the bible really teach that Christ’s second return could happen at any second, without any warning or signs whatsoever? Is that what your doctrine teaches? Let’s not forget where ALL of our doctrine is to come from;
All scriptures is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for instruction in righteousness:”, II Tim 3:16.
The purpose of this lesson is to (1); recognize and understand the signs and warnings given to us that must precede Christ’s second coming, and (2); look at the timeline of the events to take place before His second coming.
Now, as always, please…before we get started, go and get your Bible, DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING! Take your time, study and read this lesson for yourself and do as Paul says, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”, I Thess 5:21. This is a good one.
Signs and Warnings: The Abomination of Desolation
Why is it, most Christians either ignore or, just not have been made aware of, the many warnings given to us by the prophets, apostles and Jesus Christ Himself concerning His second coming. After all, who better would know more about these upcoming events than Jesus and the disciples he told directly? Throughout the entire bible, even as far back as Genesis, God gives us many warnings and clues’ concerning Christ’s second coming. But it is obvious those clues have gone unnoticed.
If the pastors had given the church the warnings given throughout the entire bible, what we have today, known as the ‘rapture theory’ would not exist.
Let’s read some of those warnings for ourselves and see if the ‘any moment rapture’ doctrine is supported by scriptures. We will start with what is probably, the most important warning Christ ever gave to His church, and reiterated later by His disciples, yet most Christians are totally unaware of it. Let’s read about this ‘abomination of desolation’ Jesus speaks of.
In the 24th chapter of the book of Matthew, Jesus’ disciples asked the question, ‘When the end of the world would be and what will be the sign of His coming?’ After first telling them to let no man deceive them, something that has undoubtedly occurred, and several other warnings, Jesus went on to say this:
Matt 24:15. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken
of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him
understand:)
Now Jesus would not have given us this warning unless there was something in the book of Daniel, that would let us know who, or how, to recognize this person He calls the Abomination of Desolation. Because whomever he is, he must play a pretty important role in Christ second coming. It should also be noted that during Jesus time, there was no New Testament. The Old Testament was the only scripture available that He could refer them to for finding the information He spoke of. So for those that believe the OT no longer applies to our lives today, you are sadly mistaken. For in them lies many answers to future events.
The closest phrase found to the ‘abomination of desolation’ referred to in the 24th chapter of Matthew, is found in the 11th chapter of book of Daniel. Let’s read what we can find out about this person, the ‘abomination of desolation’. Let’s also not forget, these are all future events Christ’s directs us to read and understand, leading to His the 2nd coming.
Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of
strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination
that maketh desolate.
Now to be perfectly honest, the above verse is a little vague, but there is some information we can use to find out more. What we can make out of this verse is that, (1) the abomination that maketh desolate will be placed, or set up somewhere, (2) the sanctuary will be polluted, and (3) the daily sacrifice will be taken away. Let’s search the scriptures, like it instructs us, and find more information.
If we read a little above, in verse 27, we find that the abomination being spoken of is actually one of two kings;
Dan 11:27. And both of these kings hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time of the appointed.
So now we know that the abomination of desolation is referred to as a ‘king’ . Now let’s continue past the 31st verse to verse 36, still speaking about the abomination of desolation, and find what Daniel has to say about this ‘king’.
Dan 11:36. And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt
himself, and magnify himself above every god, and he shall speak marvelous things
against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished:
37. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women,
nor any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Now we are learning a little more information about this ‘abomination of desolation’, which I will refer to as the (AOD). We now know that he will do whatever he will, or have complete control, and that he will exalt and magnify himself above all gods. Let’s search the NT to see if we can find a similar description for an individual;
II Thes 2:3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except
there comes a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself
that he is God.
Here we find in the NT the same individual described in the OT, let’s compare;
OT: Dan 11:36. “…and he shall exalt himself…above every god…”
NT: II Thes 2:3. “…and exalteth himself above all that is called God…”
OT: Dan 11:37. “…for he shall magnify himself above all.”
NT: II Thes 2:4. “…shewing himself that he is God.”
Again let’s go back to the book of Daniel for more information about the AOD.
Dan 7:21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.
Dan 7:25. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall
wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws.
And again in the NT:
Rev 13:6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme
his name,…
Rev 13:7. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations.
Let’s compare the two again:
OT: Dan 7:21. “…the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.”
NT: Rev 13:7. “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them…”
OT: Dan 11:36. “…And the king shall do according to his will…”
NT: Rev 13:7. “…and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations…”
OT: Dan 7:25. “…And he shall speak great words against the most High.…”
NT: Rev 13:6. “… And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God…”
At this point we can say, without a doubt, the person we have been describing in the OT and NT is the same person. For there can be only one person that will do ALL of the following: (1) exalt himself above all that is called God, (2) make war with the saints and prevail against them, (3) do according to his will, and (4) have power over ALL kindreds, tongues and nations. The person we have been describing is the “Abomination of Desolation” Jesus warned us about in the 24th chapter of Matthew. Let’s look at a few more very important verses to prove we are describing the same individual.
Dan 7:8. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
Dan 7:20. And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
So now we have just tied in another fact: the AOD is also referred to as a ‘horn’. The same horn that made war with the saints and prevailed against them, was also the little horn that had the look of a man; with eyes and a mouth and spake great things. Let’s look at one last description.
Let’s read again the first warning we found in the OT about the AOD.
Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary
of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the
abomination that maketh desolate.
The part of the verse to concentrate on is,
“…and shall take away the daily sacrifice,…”
Let’s read this same description in another verse.
Dan 8:9. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him
the daily sacrifice was taken away…
Once again, the AOD is referred to as a horn. Actually what we have is a very important piece of information. Let’s read again what the AOD or, “little horn” will one day do;
“…and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away…”
So why is this one sign so important you may ask? Well, there have been many that have said marvelous things against the God of gods, or have even said they were God. And there have been many that have tried to rule or take over the world. But what makes this sign so special is that it is something that has not taken place in over 1,300 years. There has not been one official sacrifice offered at the temple in Jerusalem since the completion of the Dome of the Rock in 691a.d. This is the one sign that will set the stage for all of the events to happen prior to Christ second coming.
What God is telling us, through His servant Daniel, is that there will be a time when the daily sacrifices will be taken away. But what sacrifices could He be talking about? There are no ‘daily sacrifices’ being offered at the temple in Jerusalem today. And that is correct, there are no daily sacrifices being offered at the temple. Not yet!!! So what can this mean? Quite simply, in order for the daily sacrifices to be taken away…at some point they must once again be started. Understand what I just said. I’m going to say that one more time: IN ORDER FOR THE DAILY SACRIFICES TO BE TAKEN AWAY, THEY MUST FIRST BE STARTED. REMEMBER IT!! IF YOU REMEMBER NOTHING ELSE YOU READ, REMEMBER THIS ONE THING!!! And trust me, if you go to, ‘The Temple Institute’ web site, you will find that the preparation to begin the ‘daily sacrifices‘, is well on it’s way. It’s going to happen!
We have searched quite a few scriptures about the AOD, so before moving on to the timeline of the upcoming events, let’s review all of the information God has provided for us concerning this man, the “Abomination of Desolation”.
We know he will call himself great, even above the God of gods:
OT: Dan 11:36. “…and he shall exalt himself…above every god…”
NT: II Thes 2:3. “…and exalteth himself above all that is called God…”
OT: Dan 11:37. “…for he shall magnify himself above all.”
NT: II Thes 2:4. “…shewing himself that he is God.”
We know he will wage war with the saints and win:
OT: Dan 7:21. “…the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.”
NT: Rev 13:7. “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them…”
We know he will have complete control:
OT: Dan 11:36. “…And the king shall do according to his will…”
NT: Rev 13:7. “…and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations…”
We know he is referred to as a ‘king’ and as a ‘horn’.
OT: Dan 7:21. “I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints…”
OT: Dan 11:36. “And the king shall do according to his will…”
And finally, we know he will take away the ‘daily sacrifices’.
OT: Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary
of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the
abomination that maketh desolate.
OT: Dan 8:11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him
the daily sacrifice was taken away…
What we now have are the signs to help identify the “The Abomination of Desolation”; that Christ, the prophet Daniel and the apostle John warned us about. And by searching the scriptures, we now understand, just as Jesus said; “…whoso readeth, let him understand:…” Now that we have a way of telling who this individual is, we can now look at the timeline he will be operating on.
So do I have your attention yet? Good!! That’s what I was hoping for. Now before you start calling me a blasphemer and a whole bunch of other names, please hear me out and read this entire lesson. I am not crazy! And no, I am not dealing with any secret codes hidden in the bible. The truth I am about to share with you is clearly written in the Holy Scriptures. And the scriptures clearly states that certain events MUST take place before the coming of the Lord. And until those events happen, Jesus CAN NOT RETURN!!! Why? Because, it is “…impossible for God to lie…”, Heb 6:18.
As church going families, I’m sure we all have been taught that Jesus’ second coming could happen any day now…even any second. And I must admit, for a long time I was living with the fear that, at any moment Christ could come back to earth to pass judgment on us all. But is the ‘any day rapture’ doctrine supported by the Holy Scripture? Does the bible really teach that Christ’s second return could happen at any second, without any warning or signs whatsoever? Is that what your doctrine teaches? Let’s not forget where ALL of our doctrine is to come from;
All scriptures is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for instruction in righteousness:”, II Tim 3:16.
The purpose of this lesson is to (1); recognize and understand the signs and warnings given to us that must precede Christ’s second coming, and (2); look at the timeline of the events to take place before His second coming.
Now, as always, please…before we get started, go and get your Bible, DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR ANYTHING! Take your time, study and read this lesson for yourself and do as Paul says, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”, I Thess 5:21. This is a good one.
Signs and Warnings: The Abomination of Desolation
Why is it, most Christians either ignore or, just not have been made aware of, the many warnings given to us by the prophets, apostles and Jesus Christ Himself concerning His second coming. After all, who better would know more about these upcoming events than Jesus and the disciples he told directly? Throughout the entire bible, even as far back as Genesis, God gives us many warnings and clues’ concerning Christ’s second coming. But it is obvious those clues have gone unnoticed.
If the pastors had given the church the warnings given throughout the entire bible, what we have today, known as the ‘rapture theory’ would not exist.
Let’s read some of those warnings for ourselves and see if the ‘any moment rapture’ doctrine is supported by scriptures. We will start with what is probably, the most important warning Christ ever gave to His church, and reiterated later by His disciples, yet most Christians are totally unaware of it. Let’s read about this ‘abomination of desolation’ Jesus speaks of.
In the 24th chapter of the book of Matthew, Jesus’ disciples asked the question, ‘When the end of the world would be and what will be the sign of His coming?’ After first telling them to let no man deceive them, something that has undoubtedly occurred, and several other warnings, Jesus went on to say this:
Matt 24:15. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken
of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him
understand:)
Now Jesus would not have given us this warning unless there was something in the book of Daniel, that would let us know who, or how, to recognize this person He calls the Abomination of Desolation. Because whomever he is, he must play a pretty important role in Christ second coming. It should also be noted that during Jesus time, there was no New Testament. The Old Testament was the only scripture available that He could refer them to for finding the information He spoke of. So for those that believe the OT no longer applies to our lives today, you are sadly mistaken. For in them lies many answers to future events.
The closest phrase found to the ‘abomination of desolation’ referred to in the 24th chapter of Matthew, is found in the 11th chapter of book of Daniel. Let’s read what we can find out about this person, the ‘abomination of desolation’. Let’s also not forget, these are all future events Christ’s directs us to read and understand, leading to His the 2nd coming.
Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of
strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination
that maketh desolate.
Now to be perfectly honest, the above verse is a little vague, but there is some information we can use to find out more. What we can make out of this verse is that, (1) the abomination that maketh desolate will be placed, or set up somewhere, (2) the sanctuary will be polluted, and (3) the daily sacrifice will be taken away. Let’s search the scriptures, like it instructs us, and find more information.
If we read a little above, in verse 27, we find that the abomination being spoken of is actually one of two kings;
Dan 11:27. And both of these kings hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time of the appointed.
So now we know that the abomination of desolation is referred to as a ‘king’ . Now let’s continue past the 31st verse to verse 36, still speaking about the abomination of desolation, and find what Daniel has to say about this ‘king’.
Dan 11:36. And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt
himself, and magnify himself above every god, and he shall speak marvelous things
against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished:
37. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women,
nor any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Now we are learning a little more information about this ‘abomination of desolation’, which I will refer to as the (AOD). We now know that he will do whatever he will, or have complete control, and that he will exalt and magnify himself above all gods. Let’s search the NT to see if we can find a similar description for an individual;
II Thes 2:3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except
there comes a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself
that he is God.
Here we find in the NT the same individual described in the OT, let’s compare;
OT: Dan 11:36. “…and he shall exalt himself…above every god…”
NT: II Thes 2:3. “…and exalteth himself above all that is called God…”
OT: Dan 11:37. “…for he shall magnify himself above all.”
NT: II Thes 2:4. “…shewing himself that he is God.”
Again let’s go back to the book of Daniel for more information about the AOD.
Dan 7:21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.
Dan 7:25. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall
wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws.
And again in the NT:
Rev 13:6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme
his name,…
Rev 13:7. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations.
Let’s compare the two again:
OT: Dan 7:21. “…the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.”
NT: Rev 13:7. “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them…”
OT: Dan 11:36. “…And the king shall do according to his will…”
NT: Rev 13:7. “…and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations…”
OT: Dan 7:25. “…And he shall speak great words against the most High.…”
NT: Rev 13:6. “… And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God…”
At this point we can say, without a doubt, the person we have been describing in the OT and NT is the same person. For there can be only one person that will do ALL of the following: (1) exalt himself above all that is called God, (2) make war with the saints and prevail against them, (3) do according to his will, and (4) have power over ALL kindreds, tongues and nations. The person we have been describing is the “Abomination of Desolation” Jesus warned us about in the 24th chapter of Matthew. Let’s look at a few more very important verses to prove we are describing the same individual.
Dan 7:8. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
Dan 7:20. And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
So now we have just tied in another fact: the AOD is also referred to as a ‘horn’. The same horn that made war with the saints and prevailed against them, was also the little horn that had the look of a man; with eyes and a mouth and spake great things. Let’s look at one last description.
Let’s read again the first warning we found in the OT about the AOD.
Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary
of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the
abomination that maketh desolate.
The part of the verse to concentrate on is,
“…and shall take away the daily sacrifice,…”
Let’s read this same description in another verse.
Dan 8:9. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him
the daily sacrifice was taken away…
Once again, the AOD is referred to as a horn. Actually what we have is a very important piece of information. Let’s read again what the AOD or, “little horn” will one day do;
“…and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away…”
So why is this one sign so important you may ask? Well, there have been many that have said marvelous things against the God of gods, or have even said they were God. And there have been many that have tried to rule or take over the world. But what makes this sign so special is that it is something that has not taken place in over 1,300 years. There has not been one official sacrifice offered at the temple in Jerusalem since the completion of the Dome of the Rock in 691a.d. This is the one sign that will set the stage for all of the events to happen prior to Christ second coming.
What God is telling us, through His servant Daniel, is that there will be a time when the daily sacrifices will be taken away. But what sacrifices could He be talking about? There are no ‘daily sacrifices’ being offered at the temple in Jerusalem today. And that is correct, there are no daily sacrifices being offered at the temple. Not yet!!! So what can this mean? Quite simply, in order for the daily sacrifices to be taken away…at some point they must once again be started. Understand what I just said. I’m going to say that one more time: IN ORDER FOR THE DAILY SACRIFICES TO BE TAKEN AWAY, THEY MUST FIRST BE STARTED. REMEMBER IT!! IF YOU REMEMBER NOTHING ELSE YOU READ, REMEMBER THIS ONE THING!!! And trust me, if you go to, ‘The Temple Institute’ web site, you will find that the preparation to begin the ‘daily sacrifices‘, is well on it’s way. It’s going to happen!
We have searched quite a few scriptures about the AOD, so before moving on to the timeline of the upcoming events, let’s review all of the information God has provided for us concerning this man, the “Abomination of Desolation”.
We know he will call himself great, even above the God of gods:
OT: Dan 11:36. “…and he shall exalt himself…above every god…”
NT: II Thes 2:3. “…and exalteth himself above all that is called God…”
OT: Dan 11:37. “…for he shall magnify himself above all.”
NT: II Thes 2:4. “…shewing himself that he is God.”
We know he will wage war with the saints and win:
OT: Dan 7:21. “…the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed
against them.”
NT: Rev 13:7. “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them…”
We know he will have complete control:
OT: Dan 11:36. “…And the king shall do according to his will…”
NT: Rev 13:7. “…and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues,
and nations…”
We know he is referred to as a ‘king’ and as a ‘horn’.
OT: Dan 7:21. “I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints…”
OT: Dan 11:36. “And the king shall do according to his will…”
And finally, we know he will take away the ‘daily sacrifices’.
OT: Dan 11:31. And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary
of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the
abomination that maketh desolate.
OT: Dan 8:11. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him
the daily sacrifice was taken away…
What we now have are the signs to help identify the “The Abomination of Desolation”; that Christ, the prophet Daniel and the apostle John warned us about. And by searching the scriptures, we now understand, just as Jesus said; “…whoso readeth, let him understand:…” Now that we have a way of telling who this individual is, we can now look at the timeline he will be operating on.
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Permalink Reply by James Pierce on
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Evan,
I want Yeshua's lips first. Paul of course never taught against Yeshua... right?
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Permalink Reply by Evangelist Altha Fugett on
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That is right, however do you not believe that the Holy Spirit was not working in him when he taught this?
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Evan,
I believe that yes, but even in 2 thess 2:1-3, that is referring to the 2nd coming, and not some secret rapture.
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Permalink Reply by Eccl. 12:13 on
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What you presented PROVES that Jesus WILL NOT come before the Tribulation period. Let's read verse 3 above;
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
The "man of sin" the "son of perdition" is the Abomination of Desolation that Christ told us about in the 24th chap. of Matt.
And how do we know? Let's read further;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Now since quoted from Pauls lips, let's read some more of what Paul tells us about the 2nd coming of Christ.
1Thes.4
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
So we see Jesus returns with the sounding of the trumpet. But WHICH trumpet? Let's read;
1Cor.15
[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
So it Christ return will be at the sounding of the LAST trumpet. Now how many trumpets will sound? Let's read;
Rev.8
[2] And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
[6] And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
Now let's read what happened at the sounding of the seventh and LAST Trumpet.
Rev.11
[15] And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
So the kingdoms of this world became the kingdom of Christ at the sounding of the 7th Trumpet. Now let's read what else happened at the sounding of the 7th Trumpet;
[18] And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
THAT THOU SHOULDEST GIVE REWARD UNTO THY SERVANTS!! Now let's look at two more events.
1. When will God's servants get their reward.
2. What happens AFTER the Tribulation period according to Jesus.
Heb.11
[39] And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
[40] God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
So NONE of the prophets received their reward when they died. Let's read WHEN they will receive it;
2Tim.4
[8] Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
So it will be at Christ APPEARING ALL will receive their reward. And according to Paul, it will be at the sounding of the 7th trump.
So there will be SEVEN trumpets that sound. So since, from the lips of Paul, Christ comes at the sounding of the LAST trumpet, we KNOW that Christ CANNOT come before the sounding of the SEVENTH trumpet.
Now let's read what came from the lips of the one that will return. Let's read what JESUS had to say, from His own lips;
Matt.24
[29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
So from the lips of Jesus Himself, it will be AFTER the tribulation period that the stars shal fall, the sun darkened and the moon shall not give light.
Let's read more;
[31] And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Again, it is at the sounding of the LAST trump, the 7th trump that Jesus will return to gather His elect.
Jesus CANNOT AND WILL NOT RETURN BEFORE THE SOUNDING OF THE 7TH TRUMPET!!
I have just PROVED with scriptures that Jesus CANNOT return BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trump.
If you believe otherwise, PROVE IT THROUGH GODS HOLY WORD!!
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Did you read ALL 3 Parts of this lesson? Again, PROVE to me, from the scriptures, that Christ comes back BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trumpet?
If it's in the bible it should be easy to find. Remember now, Book, Chapter and verse that says Jesus will return BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trumpet!
Better yet....PROVE that what you call the 'rapture' is a seperate event from Jesus 2nd return.
Did you read ALL 3 Parts of this lesson? Again, PROVE to me, from the scriptures, that Christ comes back BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trumpet?
If it's in the bible it should be easy to find. Remember now, Book, Chapter and verse that says Jesus will return BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trumpet!
Better yet....PROVE that what you call the 'rapture' is a seperate event from Jesus 2nd return.
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PROVE to me, from the scriptures, that Christ comes back BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trumpet?
If it's in the bible it should be easy to find. Remember now, Book, Chapter and verse that says Jesus will return BEFORE the sounding of the 7th trumpet!
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What about the Mark of the Beast, we will not have to submit to that? that is in the Tribulation Period? when those will not be able to sell and buy without it?
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Evan,
Most Christians interpret Revelation without understanding its historical background. The mark of the beast, the statue, etc, are all symbols and signs of the Roman Empire and its system in ancient times. This mark isnt necessarily literal, rather, its a pledge of alligance to the Roman Empire, and declaring The Emperor Lord and God. Before we try to understand Revelation in our day and time, we should understand it in the time it was written.
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Brother, How will someone know NOT to sell to you if there is not some visual way of knowing it?
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Eccl,
Great question. Im have to find out how they did that in their day and time, before I could interpret how it would happen(if it does), in our time.
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Understand something bro. The process for that to happen has been in the works for a very long time, and it still continues to this day. The newest is the RFID that is on EVERY package in every store where you shop.
At this moment they have the chip down to the size of a grain of sand and are on the way to making it even smaller.
The point is this...There WILL be a way for someone to know if you have taken the mark.
And when that day comes, there will not be some kind of trick used to get you to take it, like some who said it's our SSAN.
You WILL KNOW what it is.
You WILL KNOW what's it for.
And you WILL KNOW WHO it is you are receiving it from.
This will apply to ALL that take the mark;
Rev.16
[2] And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
Rev.19
[20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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Eccl,
I've heard all the stories concerning that, but we can only assume that thats what it will be used for. -
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