Clearing up lies

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

All this comes from your mother, The Roman Catholic Church

Christmas is pagan

Easter is pagan

Good friday is pagan

Halloween Pagan

Jesus dieing on Good Friday and raising Easter Sunday is a lie. He died on a Wednesday evening, and rose on Satuday evening He said he was going to be in the grave 3 days and 3 nights. Get 3 days, and 3 nights fromm Good Friday evening to Easter Sunday morning.

Sunday being the Sabbath day is a lie, the 7th day is the Sabbath

Jesus nailing the law to the cross is a lie He nailed the animal sacrifice to his cross

The Rature is a lie The Lord is bringing his kingdom to earth in Jerusalem

7 year tribulation is a lie, It is only 31/2 years

The trinity is a lie The Holy ghost is Gabriel

The Father dealing with Israel in the wilderness is a Lie That was Jesus in God form.

All of these things are lies, and I put the truth. I have the scriptures to prove all this out, but you will just try to get around it when I post them, so look it up for yourself.

Being bapatized in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is a lie. You must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins past. You also must be at least 20 years old to be baptized, and have it count.

[MYBY/Moreh Yahoshua ben Yisrael]

Most is correct....Get ready for the fight...LOL

Shalom

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

You would not believe it because we have to go through serveral scriptures. Not just one scripture.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

Here it is. You will think it is speculation.

Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.


Psalm 110:1-2The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

That david said by the holy ghost meaning he was told by the Holy ghost, we will go further Do you also see where it says The Lord (father) said to my Lord (Son). I know you see it.

Luke 1:18-19 And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years. And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.

The angel that stands in the presence of god, The Holy Ghost or spirit. Gabriel is the only angel that stands in the actual presence of God.

Luke 1:25-27 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
We all know who that is right? ok.

Matthew 1:18-21 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now if you can't see it there then I am sorry.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

Like I said, you would think it was speculation, and then bring your imagination.

[newview]

Some stuff is solid and the other is jello...

[Anthony]

It is very important to clarify exactly what role the Emperor Constantine played in the Council of Nicea, what the purpose for the council was, what happened at Nicea. You see, at that time the cult of Mithraism or sun-worship was the official religion of the Roman Empire. It stood as the greatest competitor to the new Christian religion. It had its own organization, temples, priesthood, robes—everything. It also had an official worship day on which special homage was given to the sun. That day was called “The Venerable Day of the Sun.” It was the first day of the week, and from it we get our name Sunday. When Constantine pressed his pagan hordes into the church they were observing the day of the sun for their adoration of the sun god. It was their special holy day. In order to make it more convenient for them to make the change to the new religion, Constantine accepted their day of worship, Sunday, instead of the Christian Sabbath which had been observed by Jesus and His disciples. Remember that the way had been prepared for this already by the increasing anti-Jewish feelings against those who were accused of putting Jesus to death. Those feelings would naturally condition many Christians to swing away from something which was held religiously by the Jews. It is therefore easier to understand how the change was imposed on Christianity through a strong civil law issued by Constantine as the Emperor of Rome. The very wording of that law, by the way, can be found in any reliable encyclopedia. Those early Christians, feeling that the Jews should not be followed any more than necessary, were ready to swing away from the Sabbath which was kept by the Jews. After Constantine made the initial pronouncement and legal decree about the change, the Catholic Church reinforced that act in one church council after another. For this reason, many, many official statements from Catholic sources are made, claiming that the church made the change from Saturday to Sunday. But before I read those statements I shall refer to one from the Encyclopedia Britannica under the article, Sunday. Notice: “It was Constantine who first made a law for the proper observance of Sunday and who appointed that it should be regularly celebrated throughout the Roman empire.” Now you can check these statements in your own encyclopedias or go to the library and look into other historical sources.

Here is a statement from Dr. Gilbert Murray, M.A., D.Litt., LLD, FBA, Professor of Greek at Oxford University, who certainly had no ax to grind concerning Christian thought on the Sabbath question. He wrote: “Now since Mithras was the sun, the Unconquered, and the sun was the Royal Star, the religion looked for a king whom it could serve as a representative of Mithras upon earth. The Roman Emperor seemed to be clearly indicated as the true king. In sharp contrast to Christianity, Mithraism recognized Caesar as the bearer of divine grace. It had so much acceptance that it was able to impose on the Christian world its own sun-day in place of the Sabbath; its sun’s birthday, the 25th of December, as the birthday of Jesus.” History of Christianity in the Light of Modern Knowledge. Looking a bit further into historical statements, Dr. William Frederick says: “The Gentiles were an idolatrous people who worshipped the sun, and Sunday was their most sacred day. Now in order to reach the people in this new field, it seems but natural as well as necessary to make Sunday the rest day of the church. At this time it was necessary for the church to either adopt the Gentile’s day or else have the Gentiles change their day. To change the Gentiles day would have been an offense and stumbling block to them. The church could naturally reach them better by keeping their day.” There it is, friends, a clear explanation by Dr. Frederick as to how this change happened. Another statement very parallel to this one is found in the North British Review. But let’s move on to a statement from the Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. 4, p. 153. “The church after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath or seventh-day of the week to the first, made the third commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord’s day.”

Good source to check is the Bible Logon
http://bible.logos.com/passage/niv/1%20Corinthians%2016.2#ref=1%20C...

[Anthony]

I'm I a liar or is history a liar? Sunday was the day set aside in the Mithra [Roman] cult as its official day to assemble together to worship its Sun-deity. Roman Emperor Constantine legislated Sun-day as a day of rest dedicated to the Greek and Roman Sun-god, Helios. Constantine worshipped "Christos Helios" which means "Christ-The-True-Sun." The Roman Catholic Church venerates Sun-day as its Sabbath even today, and has handed it down to Christianity. Shabbat/Sabbath is the Hebrew word pertaining to Yahweh's 7th day of rest. It is the 4th Commandment [Exodus 29:8-11], and a sign for all Israelite generations [descendants] found in Exodus 30:13 & 17, Ezekiel 20:12 & 20.

Secondly, Sun worshipers can be seen as pagan, but than again in some religions it's not, take Hindu, in Hindu religion the Gayatri mantra is attributed to sage Vishwamitra. He was born in a family of warriors [the Kshatriya class of the society] in northern India. It is said that by severe penance and meditation he availed the revelation of the Gayatri mantra, bestowed upon him by the Sun-God. Hence, the Gayatri is invocation to Sun-God. It is chanted in all important Hindu religious rites and ceremonies. Gayatri is first taught to youngsters during the sacred thread ceremony or the Upanavana ritual. The mantra runs like this: Om Tatsavitur Varenyam
Bhargo devasya dhimahi
dhiyo yo na prachodayat "Let us think on the lovely splendor
Of the God Savitr [the Sun]
That He may inspire our intelligence."

And don't ever try and tell me what kind of light I may have because you don't know me at all.
Unlike some I respect all religions and I don't claim to be a preacher but I do know history.

Yours truly,
Anthony Smith

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

I apologize for saying that. I reread what you wrote, and it was acturate. I do apologize, but when you get some many people bring the imagination of their heart instead of facts, it wears on you. So, again forgive me.

[newview]

I will say this Bro Anthony,
Whether Saturday or Sunday is the day - there is no excuse for us in 1st world nations to NOT give a whole day in the meditating on the Lord and fellowshipping with the the saints of the Most High.
We have Saturday and Sunday to do whatever we want. Some countries dont have a choice.
We are so blessed here.

I go to church on Sunday but to be honest - I dont see anywhere in the scriptures where Sunday is the new Sabbath.
I have been taught that Christ is our Sabbath/our Rest so dont pay any attention to the last day of the week.
I have been taught that every day is to be kept - NOT just the last day of the week and no day is above any other now.
I've heard it explained that Sunday is the EIGHTH day.....I dont even know what that means.
I have been taught that if I try to keep the Sabbath I will put myself back under the Law and will go to hell.
I have been told that no one knows what the last day of the week is anymore because the calendar was changed to a Gregorian Calendar and God understands.
I am told I that following 9 of the 10 Commandments are Ok without disrespecting Christ's sacrifice on the cross but following the 4th one would do exactly that.
I am told that Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath and he broke it - so can we.

I still have not come across a scripture that says the last day is no longer the Sabbath though.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

You are right, and we have been lied to. we are to keep all of the commandments. Look it up Emperor Constitine in 321 AD instituted Sunday as the Sabbath. Remember we have been under secular rulerships, not religious. The Pope and the Catholic Church are the religious rulers. The Pope didn't have to do it. Constatine did it. Look it up. Look up Pope Gregory. He is the one whop mingle christianity with paganism.

[Anthony]

No, you have been lied to. I don't get my research from the history channel, youtube or a false prophet nor do I get my research from a man or women who belong to a pagan organization who think their a God because they can memorize the Bible and a ritual book. None of us know for sure about the Gospels because of the Gospels that was ordered destroyed. Gospels written in Hebrew destroyed. The Gospels of Barnabas" which agrees with the Qur'an and even mention Muhammad by name was ordered destroyed. The modern discoveries such as the discovery of the dead sea scrolls [Qumran scrolls] have confirmed the claims of the Qur’an, such as their claim that no nail shall touch the Messiah. The most ancient copies of the Greek Gospels available today date fully three to four centuries after the departure of Jesus The Dead sea scrolls, however, coincide historically with the time of John the Baptist. The Gospels of King David was left out. The Gospels of Gospel Of Mary Madelene. Go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciple, “I have seen the Lord”; and she told them that he had said these things to her. Her faith enabled her to perceive the Risen Lord, while Peter, in the Gospel of John, sees only an empty tomb.

Everyone has an opinion, If you believe the first thing you read or what someone tells you because they memorized the bible than your mind is closed. Heres another opinion others believe. Other believe it was neither Constantine nor the Council of Nicea who decided what books be included in the bible but Synod of Hippo in 393 C.E. [HCBD] who was the first official Church council to discuss the contents of the bible. This synod records are lost, of course, chose which books belonged in the bible, including a list identical with Athanasius for the New Testament. And they back this claim up because the council of Carthage claimed to uphold the decisions of Hippo, and they still have the records from Carthage.

Yours truly,
Anthony Smith

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

I see that what I said previous has caused your heart to be against me. Now it is your mission to prove me wrong, but if you look at what I wrote, you would see that I was mistaken in what you were saying. A humble heart goes a long way.