Salvation is it eternal regardless of the circumstances or not come on lets get everyone’s opinion

But what is your take on what would have happened if the prodigal son or anyone who had received salvation backslides by rejecting the Father, His Son, the Holy Ghost and totally turned away from the faith and DIED without having repented or had the opportunity to return to the fold. Would that person be heading for hell or heaven? This is a conversation that came up with a couple of my work colleague when we were in an after discussion on Luke 15:11-32 so I would be interested in having a discussion and receiving everyone's point of view.

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Amen this is so true!!!!
Salvation is of the Lord not the devil ( Acts 4:12 KJV, Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.) this will give us christian eternal life through Jesus Christ, A sinner don't have salvation, unless he or she repent of their sins and give their life to Jesus, if they don't do this, they will spend eternity in the lake which burn's with fire and brimstones for ever.
Salvation + eternal life = Heaven

Sin + eternal death = Lake of fire and brimstones (hell)



LIVE FOR JESUS!!!!!!!
Let them come to Jesus Christ and ask him and he will tell them (Matt 11:28-29)
The prodigal was an EXAMPLE! He didn't die before he came to himself!! God didn't let him, did he? Now to your subject, Salvation is ETERNAL! Our God is all knowng, all powrful. Every hair on our head is numbered not counted!! We were predestined in HIM before the foundations of the world, with all that in mind, Know this, it is NOT us that brings ourself to Repentance, but HE brings us to repentance. IT is NOT of ourselves. JUDE SAID, Now unto HIM who is able to Keep us from falling, & to present us faultless...... In the presence of HIS glory... You know the rest. Even our backslidings, short comings, etc can't keep a born again believr out of HEAVEN. Just because you Think a person is saved, don't mean they are. I only know I'm saved, you only KNOW you saved, right? I know my salvation is secure!!
Apostle Ross the question adsked is if he had died without coming to his senses. We all know he did not died. And we know God kept him alive that is not the question. We are having a debate on people who turn their back and denounce God and died without coming to their senses. Guys if someone put a subject up for debate it is just that, to start a dialoge and to get people view point it is one way of discussing and sharing what we believe the Bible is teaching us. Another point Apostle there is no question that everything in the inspired Word of God is given to us as an example.
hath the foolish questions continue. When we should be saving the world; we the believers are debating simple questions that the word answers. I will cut to the chase. If someone backslides and does not return to his first love, he is lost. I want to call your attention to the Book of Ezekiel the prophet.

Ezekiel 18:24 !!!!! "...when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abomnations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live all his righteousness that he ahth done shall not be mentioned in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

Apostle H. Cornell Hudson

P.S. Eternal security is damnable doctrine!!!!! Beloveds!!!
Howard it may seem to be foolish question to you but ask yourself can a sinner backslide if he never accepted Christ or is it someone who once profess to believe and accept Christ that backslide. So my brother it is clear that it is not just sinners that need help but there are people who are weak in the faith or who have been fed false doctrine that needs help so these foolish questions or bedate can help someone who have become faint and weary. It really would be nice brother if we were all perfect as a believer should be, however most of us are not and needs questions like these to be debated in order to give understanding
Truly sister angel???

Debate is not a godly quality. Debate is used in scripture for those who are in disagreement so that they may not Sin against their neighbor.

The qustion here is simple can one be saved if they continue in sin? NO ABSOLUTLY NOT!! End discussion.

To debate it is trivial! To Gain Salvation is the real question. And what does it take to keep it?

Simple Luke 22:42 is the Key. What did Jesus do and say. As a Matter of Fact its what he didn't say or do.

Hebrews 5 says that he is the Author of Salvation. Luke 22:42 is the reason why. But at the same token chapter 6 states that those whom Blashphene against this particular oracle will NOT see the Kingdom. Well what is the Oracle? In Hebrew 5:11-14 it says that we should be masters but have need of Milk. Well the majority of people fit this. So in 6:1-4 says that we will move on to the Oracles of G-D. Well what are the Oracles of G-D?

All the People here have yet to answer taht question because They are in need of Milk! How do you expect one who does not undestand the Mysteries of G-D to answer such a question as this?

They are babied but they use not the concept of Isaiah 28:9-13. How can one who uses not this concept properly adjudicate scripture on the Level duch as a Master? They can not, it ids impossible.

Like james said YHWH is an Absolute Word. So as an Absolute Law how is it that the people here have made it null and void. The Most High said He and His Word are forever. All this man made Theology is a Hypocrasy it is not of any avail. The Most HIgh has no Theology just His Laws Statues and Commandments.

So There is only one answer. Salvation is contingent upon whether or not you keep those Laws till you DIE. Then and only then will we see the Malkut of Heaven. This was the walk that Jesus walked and do we not walk the same? Does it not say that we follow in His footsteps? So how can we be better than he as some suggest by having salvation from acceptance to death. Jesus accepted from conception but was not given the Title of The High Priest after the Order of MalkiTzedek until he did what he was called to do. Which was Die. So we have to Die to sin then die in the natural as he did.That would ne walking in His example. Nothing else is walking as Ha Mashiyach did. How do you propose to otherwise?



This is an oxymoron in nature; here is why. The term saved by definition means reedemed from damnation. The event has not taken place yet so the outcome is inconclusive. The only input we could offer is based on opinion and thus the point becomes folly. We don't have the ability to Judge, only God will render a decision; thus we can't affect the outcome. By biblical definition, believers in Christ are, redeemed from the curse of the law aside from works through faith, saved. They are secure in Christ through his pardon. If they fall away from that belief that would disqualify them when the event of redemption takes place, making them lost. Calvin was close but no cigar and the Armeanian view is correct but too shallow in the depth of its application. Both carried its truth to an extreme that made them factually incorrect..

As for Judas, the Scriptures strongly suggests he was lost.

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