TALMUD AND TORAH VERSUS GRACE AND FAITH
TALMUD AND TORAH VERSUS GRACE AND FAITH
Indeed, brother Moreh said:
“…The “LAW” that is the bondage and that was being spoken to, was the Talmud NOT Torah…In fact in Matthew 15 The same issue of washing hands come up…Notice the term “tradition of the elders” This does not refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob…It refers to the Rabbinical Orthodox teachers, so called “Jews” who Followed the Oral Law….Their tradition comes from their Oral law brother not the “Law” of Yahweh…They (Pharisees) placed the Talmud higher than Torah and made it a Yoke not easy to bare…That is the Yoke of bondage that scripture speaks about NOT TORAH. In FACT UP TO this day, they hold higher regard of Talmud than they do Torah….Their Traditions are more important than the written Law of Yah…hmmmm…
As for brother Pierce, he said:
“I think what you are missing is that no one is saying that we don't observe or keep the law in Christ. WE are NOT however bound to it because of Christ.
NO ONE was ever bound to Torah. Again, Torah was never bondage.
Matt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light
Why do you think that was said?
The Pharisees were promoting TRADITIONS OF MEN, rather than the written word. The Pharisees made the Torah a burden, and difficult to carry out. That is why Yeshua said his burden is light, and yoke is easy. When we follow Yeshua, he would show us the GREAT way to keep Torah”.
As we see, according to the Torah keepers, the Talmud is a tradition of men that comes from their Oral law. Indeed The Pharisees were promoting the Talmud which was a TRADITION OF MEN. That is the Yoke of bondage that scripture speaks about NOT TORAH.
So, I have specific questions to ask to the Torah keepers so that they can explain better the difference between the TORAH and the TALMUD.
Indeed, Brother Paul said:
What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the "stumbling stone." As it is written: "See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame”.
Romans 9:30-33
“…but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness…”
Is the law of righteousness the Talmud or the Torah?
The righteousness that is by faith: Where does this faith come from?
Brother Paul said again:
“Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes”.
Romans 10:1-4
“…Christ is the end of the law…”
Was Brother Paul speaking here about the Talmud or the Torah?
Brother Paul said again:
"Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses. Take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you: " 'Look, you scoffers, wonder and perish, for I am going to do something in your days that you would never believe, even if someone told you. As Paul and Barnabas were leaving the synagogue, the people invited them to speak further about these things on the next Sabbath.
Acts 13:38-42
“…Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the Law of Moses…”
Is the Law of Moses here the Talmud or the Torah?
All that I know is that, if I truly believe in Jesus Christ, I’m justified from everything I could not be justified from by the Law of Moses.
FAITH IN JESUS IS BETTER THAN THE LAW OF MOSES. Amen!
This is the reason why Brother Paul said:
"We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.”
Galatians 2:15-16
“…a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ…”
Here, is the law which is compared to the faith, the Talmud or the Torah?
The Herbrews’ writer said:
“The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God”.
Hebrews 7:18-20
Was the former regulation which is weak, useless and which is set aside, the Talmud or the Torah?
Was the law which is said to make nothing perfect, the Talmud or the Torah ?
Then, what is the better hope which is introduced, by which we draw near to God?
The Herbrews’ writer said again:
“The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship”.
Hebrews 10:1
Is the law which is only a shadow of the good things that are coming - not the realities themselves, the Talmud or the Torah?
What are the good things that are coming?
Brothers, please, read carefully Galatians 3 :10-29 and tell me if Brother Paul was referring to the Talmud or to the Torah:
“ 10All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."[a] 11Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith."[b] 12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them."[c] 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."[d] 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
15Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed,"[e] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[f] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise”.
Indeed, the Bible declares:
“23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[f] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law”
Was this law the Talmud of the Torah?
Now, what is the difference between that law and the Faith that justifies the believers in Christ?
Indeed Brother Paul said:
“Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God”.
Romans 3:19
Is the law here the Talmud or the Torah?
Who are those who are under that law?
Brother Peter said:
“9He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear? 11No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."
Acts 15:9-11
What does the following phrase mean?
“…for he purified their hearts by faith…”
When Brother Peter said “a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear”, was he referring to the Talmud or to the Torah?
Do you agree with Brother Peter when he said that “We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are”?
Do you truly agree with him?
Or do you believe that unless we are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, we cannot be saved (Acts 15:1)?
Our Lord Jesus Christ said:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them”.
Matthew 5:17
Was Jesus speaking about the Talmud or the Torah?
What does the Fulfilment of the Law mean?
Would you be so kind as to explain me the following verse?
“And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[a] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Matthew 22:39-40
When Jesus said “Law and the Prophets”, was He referring to the Talmud or to the Torah?
Jesus said:
"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Matthew 5:27-28
When Jesus said “You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery”, was he referring to the Talmud or to the Torah?
Wasn’t the new law of Christ better than the former law?
“Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ”.
Galatians 6:2
If a Christian fulfils the law of Christ(the new convenant) according to which we must not look at a woman lustfully for fear of committing adultery with her in our heart, will that Christian be considered lawless or an evil doer before Jesus according to Mathew 7: 21-23?
The lawless one, THE EVIL DOER, isn’t it the one who still get stuck on the former law, the first one which has been made obsolete and aging will soon disappear (Hebrews 8:13)?
Brothers and sisters in Christ, the message of our Lord Jesus is very clear:
“For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven"'.
Matthew 5:20
"...unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven"
You must also know this:
« For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.”
John 1:17
THE LAW OF MOSES HERE IS THE TORAH.
The commands of Jesus Christ are not burdensome(1 John 5:3-5).
Gentile believers live under the GRACE and not according to the Torah.
The grace accompanies the believer during his life (1 Corinthians 15:10, 2 Corinthians 12:9) and He can be strengthened in it :
“You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.”
2 Timothy 2: 1
Such a believer who walks in the grace of Jesus-Christ cannot walk any more according to the law(the Talmud or the Torah).
But what kind of law am I talking about here?
I’m talking about the law in the sense of principle of works (with allusion to the Mosaic Law) which is in contrast with the grace (Romans 2: 12-29, Romans 3: 19-31).
Thus, the gentile believers need not observe the Sabbath and the ritual ceremonies prescribed by Moses.
When John said that: “Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness (1 John 3:4)”, he did not refer to the customs taught by Moses (Acts 15: 1-21).
Consequently, the non-observance of the Sabbath by a gentile believer could not constitute the breaking of the law about which John spoke.
John referred to the law of the faith, to the truth of the faith:
“Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith ».
Romans 3:27
“If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.”
1 Timothy 4:6
This law can never be abolished, since the Word of God can not be abolished.
But what is the faith like?
« Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.”
Romans 10:17
Any thing will pass but the word of God will not pass. Ritual laws prescribed by Moses are no longer in force for the gentile believers. They are abolished for those who live under the grace. But the law of the faith which takes its source in the Word of Christ will never be abolished.
“Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.”
Jude 1:3
Gentile believers live under the GRACE.
Hebrew Israelites keep the Sabbath because they still live under the LAW.
There are two different dispensations. Paul didn’t destroy THE LAW OF GOD though.
But he said that “no one will be declared righteous in His sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin”.
He said that we “ all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus”
He said that “a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.”
This doesn’t mean that we nullify the LAW OF GOD by this faith.
Please listen carefully to Paul:
“Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin”.
Righteousness Through Faith
But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished - he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law. »
Romans 3:19-31
Hebrew Israelites still live UNDER THE LAW and do observe the Sabbath (whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law).
But the gentiles are free in Jesus-Christ, they live BY GRACE and they are justified BY FAITH.
Through the Grace God justifies freely the sinner who repents (Romans 2:24-25).
Israelites could not be justified by the Law of Moses. Today, gentile believers can not also be justified by the Law of Moses. This is the reason why Jesus Christ has come.
Jesus Christ came not to abolish but to fulfil or to perfect the Old Testament law as a UNIT (Matthew 5:17).
Indeed, He has perfected the Law on the adultery (Exodus 20: 14; Matthew 5: 27-28).
He has perfected the Law on the marriage and divorce (Genesis 2:24, Exodus 20:14; Matthew 19:1-12),
He has perfected the Law on the love of God (Exodus 20:2-7, Matthew 22:36-37),
He has perfected the Law on the love of our neighbour (Exodus 20: 12-17; Matthew 22:39, Matthew 5:21-26, Matthew 5:43-48, John 8: 1-11)
Verily, today, Yahweh’s perfect law is LOVE:
“And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity”.
Colossians 3: 14
In place of the Old Testament law, gentile believers are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind … and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39).
If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us, “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament Law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament Law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament Law can be a good “guidepost” for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor.
At the same time, to say that the Old Testament Law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament Law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it.
“This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament Law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them.
The purpose of the Old Testament Law is to point people to their need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament Law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.
Jesus Christ came not to abolish but to fulfil all the Law of Moses, NAMELY THE TORAH.
Blessings,
Bro. Germain
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Indeed, brother Moreh said:
“…The “LAW” that is the bondage and that was being spoken to, was the Talmud NOT Torah…In fact in Matthew 15 The same issue of washing hands come up…Notice the term “tradition of the elders” This does not refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob…It refers to the Rabbinical Orthodox teachers, so called “Jews” who Followed the Oral Law….Their tradition comes from their Oral law brother not the “Law” of Yahweh…They (Pharisees) placed the Talmud higher than Torah and made it a Yoke not easy to bare…That is the Yoke of bondage that scripture speaks about NOT TORAH. In FACT UP TO this day, they hold higher regard of Talmud than they do Torah….Their Traditions are more important than the written Law of Yah…hmmmm…
As for brother Pierce, he said:
“I think what you are missing is that no one is saying that we don't observe or keep the law in Christ. WE are NOT however bound to it because of Christ.
NO ONE was ever bound to Torah. Again, Torah was never bondage.
Matt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light
Why do you think that was said?
The Pharisees were promoting TRADITIONS OF MEN, rather than the written word. The Pharisees made the Torah a burden, and difficult to carry out. That is why Yeshua said his burden is light, and yoke is easy. When we follow Yeshua, he would show us the GREAT way to keep Torah”.
As we see, according to the Torah keepers, the Talmud is a tradition of men that comes from their Oral law. Indeed The Pharisees were promoting the Talmud which was a TRADITION OF MEN. That is the Yoke of bondage that scripture speaks about NOT TORAH.
So, I have specific questions to ask to the Torah keepers so that they can explain better the difference between the TORAH and the TALMUD.
Indeed, Brother Paul said:
What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the "stumbling stone." As it is written: "See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame”.
Romans 9:30-33
“…but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness…”
Is the law of righteousness the Talmud or the Torah?
The righteousness that is by faith: Where does this faith come from?
Brother Paul said again:
“Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes”.
Romans 10:1-4
“…Christ is the end of the law…”
Was Brother Paul speaking here about the Talmud or the Torah?
Brother Paul said again:
"Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses. Take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you: " 'Look, you scoffers, wonder and perish, for I am going to do something in your days that you would never believe, even if someone told you. As Paul and Barnabas were leaving the synagogue, the people invited them to speak further about these things on the next Sabbath.
Acts 13:38-42
“…Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the Law of Moses…”
Is the Law of Moses here the Talmud or the Torah?
All that I know is that, if I truly believe in Jesus Christ, I’m justified from everything I could not be justified from by the Law of Moses.
FAITH IN JESUS IS BETTER THAN THE LAW OF MOSES. Amen!
This is the reason why Brother Paul said:
"We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.”
Galatians 2:15-16
“…a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ…”
Here, is the law which is compared to the faith, the Talmud or the Torah?
The Herbrews’ writer said:
“The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God”.
Hebrews 7:18-20
Was the former regulation which is weak, useless and which is set aside, the Talmud or the Torah?
Was the law which is said to make nothing perfect, the Talmud or the Torah ?
Then, what is the better hope which is introduced, by which we draw near to God?
The Herbrews’ writer said again:
“The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship”.
Hebrews 10:1
Is the law which is only a shadow of the good things that are coming - not the realities themselves, the Talmud or the Torah?
What are the good things that are coming?
Brothers, please, read carefully Galatians 3 :10-29 and tell me if Brother Paul was referring to the Talmud or to the Torah:
“ 10All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."[a] 11Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith."[b] 12The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them."[c] 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."[d] 14He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
15Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed,"[e] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[f] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise”.
Indeed, the Bible declares:
“23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[f] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law”
Was this law the Talmud of the Torah?
Now, what is the difference between that law and the Faith that justifies the believers in Christ?
Indeed Brother Paul said:
“Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God”.
Romans 3:19
Is the law here the Talmud or the Torah?
Who are those who are under that law?
Brother Peter said:
“9He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear? 11No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."
Acts 15:9-11
What does the following phrase mean?
“…for he purified their hearts by faith…”
When Brother Peter said “a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear”, was he referring to the Talmud or to the Torah?
Do you agree with Brother Peter when he said that “We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are”?
Do you truly agree with him?
Or do you believe that unless we are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, we cannot be saved (Acts 15:1)?
Our Lord Jesus Christ said:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them”.
Matthew 5:17
Was Jesus speaking about the Talmud or the Torah?
What does the Fulfilment of the Law mean?
Would you be so kind as to explain me the following verse?
“And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[a] 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Matthew 22:39-40
When Jesus said “Law and the Prophets”, was He referring to the Talmud or to the Torah?
Jesus said:
"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Matthew 5:27-28
When Jesus said “You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery”, was he referring to the Talmud or to the Torah?
Wasn’t the new law of Christ better than the former law?
“Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ”.
Galatians 6:2
If a Christian fulfils the law of Christ(the new convenant) according to which we must not look at a woman lustfully for fear of committing adultery with her in our heart, will that Christian be considered lawless or an evil doer before Jesus according to Mathew 7: 21-23?
The lawless one, THE EVIL DOER, isn’t it the one who still get stuck on the former law, the first one which has been made obsolete and aging will soon disappear (Hebrews 8:13)?
Brothers and sisters in Christ, the message of our Lord Jesus is very clear:
“For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven"'.
Matthew 5:20
"...unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven"
You must also know this:
« For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.”
John 1:17
THE LAW OF MOSES HERE IS THE TORAH.
The commands of Jesus Christ are not burdensome(1 John 5:3-5).
Gentile believers live under the GRACE and not according to the Torah.
The grace accompanies the believer during his life (1 Corinthians 15:10, 2 Corinthians 12:9) and He can be strengthened in it :
“You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.”
2 Timothy 2: 1
Such a believer who walks in the grace of Jesus-Christ cannot walk any more according to the law(the Talmud or the Torah).
But what kind of law am I talking about here?
I’m talking about the law in the sense of principle of works (with allusion to the Mosaic Law) which is in contrast with the grace (Romans 2: 12-29, Romans 3: 19-31).
Thus, the gentile believers need not observe the Sabbath and the ritual ceremonies prescribed by Moses.
When John said that: “Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness (1 John 3:4)”, he did not refer to the customs taught by Moses (Acts 15: 1-21).
Consequently, the non-observance of the Sabbath by a gentile believer could not constitute the breaking of the law about which John spoke.
John referred to the law of the faith, to the truth of the faith:
“Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith ».
Romans 3:27
“If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.”
1 Timothy 4:6
This law can never be abolished, since the Word of God can not be abolished.
But what is the faith like?
« Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.”
Romans 10:17
Any thing will pass but the word of God will not pass. Ritual laws prescribed by Moses are no longer in force for the gentile believers. They are abolished for those who live under the grace. But the law of the faith which takes its source in the Word of Christ will never be abolished.
“Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.”
Jude 1:3
Gentile believers live under the GRACE.
Hebrew Israelites keep the Sabbath because they still live under the LAW.
There are two different dispensations. Paul didn’t destroy THE LAW OF GOD though.
But he said that “no one will be declared righteous in His sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin”.
He said that we “ all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus”
He said that “a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.”
This doesn’t mean that we nullify the LAW OF GOD by this faith.
Please listen carefully to Paul:
“Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin”.
Righteousness Through Faith
But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished - he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law. »
Romans 3:19-31
Hebrew Israelites still live UNDER THE LAW and do observe the Sabbath (whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law).
But the gentiles are free in Jesus-Christ, they live BY GRACE and they are justified BY FAITH.
Through the Grace God justifies freely the sinner who repents (Romans 2:24-25).
Israelites could not be justified by the Law of Moses. Today, gentile believers can not also be justified by the Law of Moses. This is the reason why Jesus Christ has come.
Jesus Christ came not to abolish but to fulfil or to perfect the Old Testament law as a UNIT (Matthew 5:17).
Indeed, He has perfected the Law on the adultery (Exodus 20: 14; Matthew 5: 27-28).
He has perfected the Law on the marriage and divorce (Genesis 2:24, Exodus 20:14; Matthew 19:1-12),
He has perfected the Law on the love of God (Exodus 20:2-7, Matthew 22:36-37),
He has perfected the Law on the love of our neighbour (Exodus 20: 12-17; Matthew 22:39, Matthew 5:21-26, Matthew 5:43-48, John 8: 1-11)
Verily, today, Yahweh’s perfect law is LOVE:
“And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity”.
Colossians 3: 14
In place of the Old Testament law, gentile believers are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind … and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39).
If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us, “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament Law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament Law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament Law can be a good “guidepost” for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor.
At the same time, to say that the Old Testament Law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament Law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it.
“This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament Law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them.
The purpose of the Old Testament Law is to point people to their need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament Law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.
Jesus Christ came not to abolish but to fulfil all the Law of Moses, NAMELY THE TORAH.
Blessings,
Bro. Germain
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Permalink Reply by N'ZI Amani Germain on
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I'm still waiting for the answer of the TORAH KEEPERS!
Bro. Germain
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Jesus said:
"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Matthew 5:27-28
When Jesus said “You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery”, was he referring to the Talmud or to the Torah?
Wasn’t the new law of Christ better than the former law?
“Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ”.
Galatians 6:2
If a Christian fulfils the law of Christ(the new convenant) according to which we must not look at a woman lustfully for fear of committing adultery with her in our heart, will that Christian be considered lawless or an evil doer before Jesus according to Mathew 7: 21-23?
The lawless one, THE EVIL DOER, isn’t it the one who still get stuck on the former law, the first one which has been made obsolete and aging will soon disappear (Hebrews 8:13)?
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Pierce,
You said:
"Yeshua taught Torah in the above verse... as Yeshua was agreeing with Torah, when you look at a married person, or if you are married, and your eyes wander with the intentions of carrying it out, then thats breaking Torah" OK!
Can you show me the concordance of your statement above in the Torah?
Let us listen carefully to Jesus Christ:
"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. BUT I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Pierce, if the Law of Jesus Christ and the Torah are alike, then tell me why He said: "...BUT I TELL YOU...?
"...BUT I TELL YOU..."
If the Torah and the Law of Christ are alike, then why do you teach that those who follow the law of Christ are lawless and evil doers according to Matthew 7:21-23?
Don't you see in Matthew 5:27-28 a dissimilarity between two kind of teachings, in one hand The Torah and in the other hand the Law of Christ Jesus(Galatians 6:2)?
Indeed, you've not answered my question below yet:
Pierce, please tell me, If a Christian fulfils the law of Christ(the new convenant) according to which we must not look at a woman lustfully for fear of committing adultery with her in our heart, will that Christian be considered lawless or an evil doer before Jesus according to Mathew 7: 21-23?
The lawless one, THE EVIL DOER, isn’t it the one who still get stuck on the former law, the first one which has been made obsolete and aging will soon disappear (Hebrews 8:13)?
Brother Germain
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Permalink Reply by James Pierce on
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Pierce,
You said:
"Yeshua taught Torah in the above verse... as Yeshua was agreeing with Torah, when you look at a married person, or if you are married, and your eyes wander with the intentions of carrying it out, then thats breaking Torah" OK!
Can you show me the concordance of your statement above in the Torah?
1) to commit adultery
a) (Qal)
1) to commit adultery
a) usually of man
1) always with wife of another
b) adultery (of women) (participle)
2) idolatrous worship (fig.)
b) (Piel)
1) to commit adultery
a) of man
b) adultery (of women) (participle)
2) idolatrous worship (fig.)
Let us listen carefully to Jesus Christ:
"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery. BUT I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
Pierce, if the Law of Jesus Christ and the Torah are alike, then tell me why He said: "...BUT I TELL YOU...?
"...BUT I TELL YOU..."
That is a great question. Let me take you to Matt 5:17, where Yeshua said that He came not to destroy Torah, but to fulfill Torah. This was a rabbinic argument... Destroy... fulfill. What this means is that if someone is destroying Torah, then they are teaching it wrongfully, and if they are fulfilling Torah, then they are teaching it correctly. An additional meaning here also is that Yeshua did not come to take Torah away, but to practice Torah, and practice it the corerct way.
He uses arguments such as,"But I tell you." Look at that in this light. If Yeshua was teaching Torah correctly, then why would He say that phrase? Well, Much of the Hebrew people were influenced by Pharsaic traditions, rather than the actual written Torah. There were much teachings concerning Adultery that were not stated in Torah. Therefore, when Yeshua says,"But I say to you", that means he is going to speak and teach what TORAH teaches, rather the traditions of man. But, Germain, I know you dont believe that, so all that I am saying, you will just brush off.
If the Torah and the Law of Christ are alike, then why do you teach that those who follow the law of Christ are lawless and evil doers according to Matthew 7:21-23?
The fact is that those who truly follow Yeshua would keep Torah. Look at Matt 7:21-23. Yeshua said at judgement day, people will say that they casted out demons, and prophesied in his name, but Yeshua will tell them to depart because they were TORAHLESS. In other words, people claim to believe, follow, and love Yeshua, but they keep not the Father's Torah. Those who truly follow Yeshua are not evil doers because THEY KEEP TORAH!
Don't you see in Matthew 5:27-28 a dissimilarity between two kind of teachings, in one hand The Torah and in the other hand the Law of Christ Jesus(Galatians 6:2)?
John 15:10,"I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love." Matt 22:37-39,"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Yeshua never astrayed from his Father's teachings when teaching us. Germain, you cannot see that because you've been taught Christianity for most of your early life. Open your mind to Yahweh's true teachings.
Indeed, you've not answered my question below yet:
Pierce, please tell me, If a Christian fulfils the law of Christ(the new convenant) according to which we must not look at a woman lustfully for fear of committing adultery with her in our heart, will that Christian be considered lawless or an evil doer before Jesus according to Mathew 7: 21-23?
If one fulfills the Torah of Yeshua, which is the Torah of Yahweh, then they would not lust after women who are bethrothed(engaged), or married. If you believe that what you say is what Yeshua means, then YOU cannot desire any woman. You might as well stay single. The word lust means to "desire". If you are a man, then you should desire a woman, but according to Yeshua, that woman cannot be bethrothed, or married. You have NO Torah foundation, therefore you cannot fathom what im saying to you. STUDY, GERMAIN!
The lawless one, THE EVIL DOER, isn’t it the one who still get stuck on the former law, the first one which has been made obsolete and aging will soon disappear (Hebrews 8:13)?
Hebrews 5-10 is ONLY referring to the sacrifical system. Thats what was obsolete. Bulls, Goats, etc, COULD NOT take away sins completely, therefore we have a new covenant for which the blood of Yeshua takes away sin FOREVER. This has nothing to do with the rest of Torah.
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Pierce,
It is no use asking you again to bring answers to my discussion for you are disqualified.
Don't you know an other Torah keeper likely to answer all my questions above properly?
You said:
"...That is a great question. Let me take you to Matt 5:17, where Yeshua said that He came not to destroy Torah, but to fulfill Torah. This was a rabbinic argument... Destroy... fulfill. What this means is that if someone is destroying Torah, then they are teaching it wrongfully, and if they are fulfilling Torah, then they are teaching it correctly. An additional meaning here also is that Yeshua did not come to take Torah away, but to practice Torah, and practice it the corerct way".
With all due respect, let me tell you that by your statement above alone, even a four years old kid can easily recognize that you are one of the best false teachers in USA.
Why do you always endeavour to answer a question when you do not know the right answer?
Why?
According to you, the fulfilment of the Law by Jesus(Matthew 5:17) means "...if someone is destroying Torah, then they are teaching it wrongfully, and if they are fulfilling Torah, then they are teaching it correctly. An additional meaning here also is that Yeshua did not come to take Torah away, but to practice Torah, and practice it the corerct way..."
I thank you!
However, you acknowledge that "..we have a new covenant for which the blood of Yeshua takes away sin FOREVER".
A NEW CONVENANT...
A NEW...
May God enlighten you!
Have a very good week-end!
Bro. Germain
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Pierce,
You have not answered my questions yet, because you can't.
Indeed, the wise and learned people can not answer my questions.
Before understanding my questions, you must be a CHILD. Yes, a CHILD!
So, I need not refer to the quotation of a man, but to the Word of Jesus Christ, the Almighty God:
"At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children".
Matthew 11:25
O my Lord, my brother Pierce needs a revelation right now!
Please open his eyes sothat he can see again!
Bro. Germain
This is my prayer for you!
Bro. Germain
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Germain,
I answered ALL of your questions. I guess my answers are TOO MUCH for you to handle. as Jack Nicholson puts it,"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!."
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"Pure And Undefiled Religion"
"Pure religion and undefiled before G-D The Father is this, to visit the fatherless (those children who know not The Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL) and widows(those who have not "experienced The Messiah and The Power that raised Him from among the dead") in their affliction and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world......." (James 1:27)
Simply, all other religion is impure and defiled.......
And notice that "pure and undefiled" religion is for the individual, a Brother or Sister doing The Will of Our Father, led of The Holy, Set Apart, Spirit.......
And "Brothers and Sisters" is not "religion", for what are Brothers and Sisters if not Family? Would not The Family of The Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, "The Body of The Messiah", be much closer than a natural, fleshly family?
What is declared to be "religion" today is truly the devil's playground.......
And Faith will not create a system of religion.......
Hope is there would be those who take heed unto The Call of The Only True G-D to "Come Out of her, MY people"!
For they will "Come Out" of this wicked world(babylon) and it's systems of religion, into "the glorious Liberty of The Children of The Only True G-D".
They will no longer be of those who are destroying the earth(land, air, water, vegetation, creatures)" and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Truth, Life, Love, Peace, Hope, Faith, Mercy, Grace, Miracles, etc.).
Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(religion) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" (1John5:19) indeed and Truth.......
Truth is never ending.......
thedestructionoftheearth.wordpress.com
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Brother,
The written Law (the Torah) given to Israel was introduced because of transgression 430 years later(Galatians 3:17-18).
It was that Law which prescribed rituals like sabbath keeping and so on...
Indeed, before the introduction of that written law(Torah), there was a LAW, namely the Law of Christ( Galatians 6:2: Jesus-Christ is the Biginning end the End, the Almighty God).
At the bigining was the WORD. Jesus is the Word(John 1:14)
Brother Paul says that the written law which was introduced because of transgression 430 years later does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise.
Christians should live according to the pevious law which was based on faith.
Today, that law of Christ based on faith justifies the believers from everything he/she could not be justified from by the law of Moses, the written law(Torah).
Of course, Such believers are sons and daughters of Abraham, since Abraham lived according to that previous LAW which was based on faith.
So, we are to return to the begining, to the the previous law, to the previous convenant based on faith.
Please, read Galatians 3:1-29
Blessings,
Bro. Germain
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"Let There Be Light"
"In The Beginning" The Creator(Our Father) said,
"Let There Be Light, and There Was Light"
"LIGHT Begot Light!"
"The Beginning of The Creation of GOD!"
And the revelation that The Messiah received of
The Creator and gave unto the apostle John bore
witness to The Truth that The Messiah, was
"The Beginning of the Creation of GOD(Our
Father, Creator of ALL)"! (Rev 1:1, 3:14)
And The Messiah bore witness to His Brethren
when He testified, "My GOD is your GOD and My
Father(Creator) is your Father(Creator)."(Jn 20:17)
The Messiah testified "I have sent My angel to
you with this testimony for the assemblies. I am
the root and the offspring of David. I am the bright,
Morning Star(Light)"! (Rev 22:16) ) Peter testified
"We have the more sure word of prophecy; and
you do well to take heed, as to a lamp shining in a
dark place, until the day dawns, and The Morning
Star(Light) arises in your hearts."(2Pt 1:19) "But
you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood,
a holy nation, HIS own special people, that you
may proclaim the praises of HIM who called you
out of darkness into His marvelous Light."(1Pt2:9)
And the evening(darkness) and The Morning
(Light) was the First Day." (Gen 1:5)
"Let There Be Light"!
"The Beginning of The Creation of GOD"!
It is very important to both know and experience
The Messiah as He Is, Was and always Will Be,
and also to know the "glory He had with Our
Father" before He was born in "the likeness of
sinful flesh". (John 17:5, Rom 8:3) For what The
Messiah Was and Is, Is that which He will always
Will Be."The Only Begotten Son" of "Our Father"!
First, let me simply state that I do not believe the
"catholic" and "christian" theo'ry'logical doctrines
concerning "The Only True GOD, Father ALL". For
they "image"ine a three-headed "god" they call
their "trinity", or they declare their "christ" to be
their "god and father", or they believe that The
Messiah was but an exalted messenger(angel)
or prophet.
John The Baptist testified, "And I saw, and bare
record that The Messiah is the Son of GOD(Our
Father)."(John 1:34) Peter testified, "You are The
Messiah, The Son of The Living GOD(Father of
ALL)"!(Matt 16:16) And the Ethiopian eunuch
testified, "I believe that The Messiah is The Son
of GOD(Our Father)". (Acts 8:37) "Seeing then
that we have a great high priest, that is passed
into the Heavens, The Messiah, The Son of
GOD(Our Father), let us hold fast our profession."
(Heb 4:14) "These things are written so that you
might believe that The Messiah is The Son of GOD
(Our Father)". (John 20:31) The Messiah testified
that He was "The Son of GOD", and that His GOD
was "The Only True GOD(Father of ALL)".
(John 10:36,17:3)
And The Messiah also testified that He was the
"Son of man" and "The Light of the world".
(Matt 26:64, John 8:12)
It is needful to believe that The Messiah Was, Is
and always Will Be "The Son of The Living GOD",
and that there is but "One GOD, HE WHO is
Father of ALL". (Mat 16:16, Eph 4:6) The Messiah
bore witness to His Brethren when He testified
after being "raised from among the dead", "My GOD
is your GOD and My Father(Creator) is your Father
(Creator)" (John 20:17)
Is The Messiah's GOD and Father your GOD
and Father?
Who are The Brethren of The Messiah?
"Let There Be Light"
Once again, It is very important to both know and
experience The Messiah as He Was, Is and always
Will Be. The Messiah simply testified in John 17:5
"And now O Father, glorify Me with YOUR own self
with the glory that I had with YOU before the world
began".
Prior to that testimony The Messiah had testified,
"Yet a little while is The Light with you. Walk while
you have The Light, lest darkness comes upon
you: for he that walks in darkness does not know
where he goes. While you have Light, believe in
The Light, that you may be the children of Light."
(John 12:35-36)
And the apostle John testified: "In the beginning
was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and
The Word was GOD. (John did not testify that
The Word is GOD)The same was in the beginning
with GOD. All things were made by Him, and
without Him was not any thing made that was
made. In Him was Life; and The Life was The
Light of men. And The Light shined in darkness;
and the darkness comprehended it not. There
was a man sent from GOD, whose name was
John. The same came for a witness, to bear
witness of The Light, that all men through Him
might believe. He(John the baptist) was not that
Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
That was the True Light, which enlightens every
man that comes into the world. He(The Messiah)
was in the world, and the world was made by
Him, and the world knew Him not. He came unto
His own, and His own received Him not. But as
many as received Him, to them He gave power
to become the sons of GOD, even to them that
believe on His name: Which were born, not of
blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will
of man, but of "The Only True GOD, Father of
ALL"." (John 1:1-13)
It is needful to realize that The Messiah testified
of "The Only True GOD" in John 17:3, and so it is
that The GOD and Father of The Messiah IS,
WAS and always WILL BE "The Only True GOD".
"The Only True GOD" is "Father of ALL".
And "The Father of ALL" is "Our Father", HE WHO
IS "The Only True GOD" and Father of The Messiah
and His Brethren.
And the apostle John testified in John 3:17-21:
"For Our Father sent not his Son into the world
to condemn the world; but that the world through
Him might be saved. He that believes on Him is
not condemned: but he that believes not is
condemned already, because he has not believed
in the name of the only begotten Son of GOD(Our
Father). And this is the condemnation, that Light is
come into the world, and men loved darkness
rather than Light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that does evil hates The Light,
neither comes to The Light, lest his deeds should
be reproved. But he that does Truth comes to The
Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that
they are wrought in GOD(Our Father)."
In John 12:34 the people asked, "Who is this Son
of man? Then in John 12:35-36, "The Messiah said
unto them, yet a little while is The Light with you.
Walk while you have The Light, lest darkness come
upon you: for he that walks in darkness does not
know where he goes. While you have Light, believe
in The Light, that you may be the children of Light.
The Messiah spoke these things, and departed,
and hid Himself from them."
Simply, "In The Beginning" The Only True GOD
spoke The Word, "Let There Be Light", "And there
was Light"! "And there was evening(darkness) and
there was morning (Light), The First Day". (Gen 1:5)
Certainly such "Light" was not "natural" light, for
"natural" light, the sun, moon, and stars were not
created until the "fourth day". (Gen 1:14-19)
"In the beginning", "The First Day", The Father of
All created "The Light", without which Creation and
Life, as we now know and experience it, could not
have been.
The First Day, "The Light", The Messiah, "The
beginning of the Creation of GOD(HE WHO is
The Only True GOD and Father of ALL)"!
(Gen 1:3, Rev 3:14, John 17:3, Eph 4:6)
And "The Only True GOD" created all "things" by,
through, and for "The Light", The Messiah, "The
Son of The Living GOD" and "Son of man".
(Col 1:15, Eph 3:9, Mat 16:16, Mat 12:32)
LIGHT begets Light!
And "The True Light which enlightens every man
coming into the world", was born as a child
destined to be The Messiah. (John 1:9, Mat 1:21)
The Messiah, "The Light of the world".
(John 8:12, 9:5)
The Messiah, "The firstborn of every creature
(all creation)". (Col 1:15)
The Messiah, "Begotten of Our Father",
"The firstborn among many Brethren".
(Heb 1:5) (Ps 2:7) (Rom 8:29)
The Messiah, "A servant of The Only True GOD
(Father of ALL)". (Isa 42:1-7)
The Messiah, "The Lamb of GOD".
(John 1:29,36)
The Messiah, "The firstborn from among the dead".
(Col 1:18)
Once again: "In The Beginning" Our Father, "The
Only True GOD" spoke: "Let there be Light, and
there was Light"! The Messiah, "The Beginning of
the Creation of GOD", "the firstborn of every
creature(all creation)". (Gen 1:3, John 17:3,
Rev 3:14, Col 1:15)
Thanks Be To "Our Father"!
The Messiah, The Creation of "The Only True
GOD, Father of ALL"! (Rev 3:14)
The Messiah, "made so much better than the
angels"! (Heb 1:4)
The Messiah, "The Light of the world"!
(John 8:12, 9:5)
"The Lamb of GOD", "The Light of The New
Heavenly Jerusalem"! (Rev 21:22-23)
Paul experienced "The Light " on the road to
Damascus. "And it came to pass, that, as I
made my journey, and came near unto
Damascus about noontime, suddenly a great
Light from Heaven shone round about me.
And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice
saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why do you
persecute Me? And I answered, "Who are
You, Master"? And He said unto me, I am
Yehowshuwa'(Yeshua, Jeshua) of Nazareth,
Whom you persecute. And they that were
with me saw The Light, and were afraid; but
they did not hear the voice of Him that spoke
to me. And I said, "What shall I do, Master"?
And He said unto me, arise and go into
Damascus, and there you shall be told all
things which are appointed for you to do.
And when I could not see for the glory of
that Light, I was led by the hand into
Damascus." (Acts 22:6-11)
Paul also testified, "At midday I saw in the
way a Light from Heaven, ABOVE THE
BRIGHTNESS OF THE SUN, shining round
about me and those who journeyed with me.
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I
heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying
in the HEBREW tongue, Saul, Saul, why do
you persecute Me? It is hard for you to kick
against the pricks." (The Messiah could not
have told Paul, "I am jesus" for He spoke in
the "HEBREW tongue") (Acts 26:13-14)
Paul saw "The Light" that was The Messiah
and he was blinded(naturally, not Spiritually)
for a time. Now when The Messiah was in
the "likeness of sinful flesh", born as "the
Son of man", He could only reflect "The
Light", liken unto the moon which but reflects
the light of the natural sun.
"Let There Be Light"
The Messiah, "The Light of the world"!
And consider the natural light provided by the
sun, which was Created on the fourth day.
Does not the natural light of the sun reveal
outwardly, all the earthly, natural things?
Consider what happens when that which you
thought was clean is exposed to the light of
the sun? Is not the least outward particle of
uncleanness readily seen in the light of the
sun? And so it is with "The Light" that is The
Messiah. For His Life, "The Life", reveals
and exposes all the uncleanness in "our"
life, the life that is of "our" own creation,
which is the "I(ego, id)" in all of us, the
product of "our" own vain "imag"inations!
So it needs be that "The Light" penetrates
deeply, even into the innermost recesses
of the heart, "rightly dividing the soul and
spirit", exposing all the darkness that the
"I" in all of us did not want to "see"!
Yet for such a cleansing to begin one must
"experience The Messiah(The Light) and
The Power that raised Him from among the
dead"!(Php 3:10) Oh, there are many who
know of a "messiah", yet who has
experienced "The Light"? For "The Light"
was "The Beginning of Creation" both the
old, which was natural and earthly and The
New, which is of The Spirit and Heavenly.
Those who "love this world and it's things"
yet desire that which "decayed, waxed
old and vanished away" (Heb 8:13) They
are of those "whose 'god' is their belly,
and whose glory is in their shame, for
they mind earthly things". (Phlp 3:19)
Sadly, those who "love this world and it's
things" yet love darkness more than The
Light and they will abide in the darkness
they loved forever ;-( (1Jn2:15,Jn3:19-20)
Sadder yet, systems of religion that are of
this world, such as "catholicism", "christianity",
"judaism", "islam", etc., have so perverted
The Testimonies, that today, as in the two
thousand or so, years gone by, "The Way
of Truth is evil spoken of"! All because of
the theo'ry'logical, heretical doctrines that
are of men! And especially those
theo'ry'logical doctrines which seek to
define "The Only True GOD, Father of All".
(2Peter 2:1-2)
All such doctrines are but the product of
mankind's "imag"ination and mankind's
"imag"ination is destroying and perverting
Creation(land, air, water, creatures, Light,
Truth, Love, Peace, Joy, Hope, .etc.)
Yes, sadly ;-( Creation is being destroyed
by self-willed men who could care less
about that which is of The Truth(What Is,
Was, and always Will Be), and care even
less about those things which they can
not comprehend apart from their
"natural" senses and mental processes ;-(
And The Truth testifies, The Creator "will
destroy those who destroy the earth(HIS
Creation)"(Rev 11:18).
Sadly, in this wicked world, those who
seek profit will naturally overcome those
who do not ;-(
Yet, There Is Hope!
For The Life is of The Spirit!
And Miracles do happen!
And Faith rejoices against profit(greed)
and theo'ry'logy(logic)!
Hope is there would be those who experience
The Miracle that is receiving "a love of The
Truth" for they will "see" "The Light".
(2Thes 2:10, John 8:12, 9:5)
And they will receive peace, in spite of the
dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world, for
they will clearly "see" that "The WHOLE
world is under the control of the evil one".
(1John 5:19) And they will clearly "see"
things as they are and not as "imag"inative,
world-loving humans would have others
believe them to be, for they will "see" The
Light that is The Messiah....... francisco
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