The People in Jerusalem Today CANNOT be the Jews of the Bible!
Please understand something….God said ALL of the nation of Israel and her seed would either be blessed OR cursed, never BOTH! These blessings or curses are for a nation of PEOPLE. God never said they would be for a country.
Let’s first identify ALL (12) tribes;
Gen.46
[8] And these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt, Jacob and his sons: Reuben, Jacob's firstborn.
[10] And the sons of Simeon
[11] And the sons of Levi
[12] And the sons of Judah
[13] And the sons of Issachar
[14] And the sons of Zebulun
[16] And the sons of Gad
[17] And the sons of Asher
[19] The sons of Rachel Jacob's wife; Joseph, and Benjamin.
[23] And the sons of Dan
[24] And the sons of Naphtali
So God’s curses are not just for those from the tribe of Judah, which later was shortened to Jew, but to ALL TWELVE TRIBES in ALL of their dwellings.
Since we know the nation of Israel, all (12) tribes, did not keep Gods’ commandments, statues and laws, there is no need to try to apply ANY of God’s blessings to a country or a people that seem to fit the description! Why? Because Israel, the PEOPLE, did not obey their God! So the PEOPLE were cursed and NOT a country! In others words, God’s blessing or curse CANNOT be directed toward a country, only a PEOPLE. I can say that for a fact because of the following:
Deut.28
[2] And ALL these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, IF thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.
[10] And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the LORD; and they shall be afraid of thee.
[12] The LORD shall open unto thee his good treasure, the heaven to give the rain unto thy land in his season, and to bless all the work of thine hand: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow.
[13] And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath;
Now I’m sure someone could find a country that posses both blessings AND curses, but that country or people CANNOT be Israel because again, the blessing, or curses, were for a PEOPLE! And since the (12) tribes of Israel did not keep God’s commandments, NONE of God’s blessings can be associated with them. Let’s read:
Ezek.2
[3] And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.
Ezek.3
[7] But the house of Israel will not hearken unto thee; for they will not hearken unto me: for all the house of Israel are impudent and hardhearted.
Let’s look at it again in the book of Jeremiah;
Jer.3
[6] The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot.
[7] And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
[8] And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Since Israel, as a whole, did not hearken unto the Lord, they received NONE of the blessing God promised. The reason I said as a whole, is because God always had some that did obey Him; Moses, David, Job, and the prophets, to name a few. But overall Israel, as a nation, did not keep God’s commandments, statutes and laws.
So let’s read some of the curses that must STILL be upon ALL (12) TRIBES of ISRAEL! These curses MUST follow the people, ALL (12) TRIBES, wherever they dwell.
Deut.28
[15] But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
[16] Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
[17] Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
[18] Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
[38] Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.
[39] Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.
[40] Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
[41] Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.
[42] All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.
- Note these scriptures refer to a people and NOT a country.
- Israel will be cursed in the city and the fields.
- Israel will NOT get to enjoy the fruits of their labor.
- Israel’s sons and daughters will go into captivity.
[43] The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
[44] He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
- The strangers within the land wherever Israel dwells will come up higher and
will loan Israel money. (Understand; Israel WILL NOT be in their own land
because God had them scattered, vs. 64 below. So they are in a land NOT
their own, borrowing money, NOT LENDING!!!)
[25] The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
[64] And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
[65] And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
And Israel, all (12) tribes, will be scattered by God into different nation and not serve their God. Not migrate.....but be removed and scattered into ALL of the kingdoms of the earth.
Isa.42:[22] But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.
Israel is stolen from, hid in prison, but no one says restore. Think about all of the people that did receive restoration in their history; the people of the countries that suffered in WWI and WWII, and most conflicts around the world. But the true nation of Israel, God said no one would restore their loss.
Do you think of a large Jewish population “hid in prison houses” when you think of the prison system?
[46] And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
These curses are to be used as a SIGN and a wonder. The TRUE people of the nation of Israel IS NOT to be a secret! These curses are to last, not only for Israel of old, but even unto ALL of the seed of Israel today. These curses still apply to the TRUE Israelite. ALL (12) TRIBES!!
If you find a people to which ALL of these curses apply, you have found Israel.
These are just a FEW of the curses God said He would put upon Israel and her SEED FOREVER, if they did not obey His commandments. There are MANY more to be found in the scripture.
Now when you look at the people living in Jerusalem today, ask yourselves this question…..Are ALL of God’s curses really upon these people?
- Israel will be cursed in the city and the fields.
- Israel will NOT get to enjoy the fruits of their labor.
- Israel’s sons and daughters will go into captivity.
- The strangers within the land wherever Israel dwells will come up higher and
will loan Israel money. (Understand; Israel WILL NOT be in their own land,
and they will be borrowing money, NOT LENDING!!!)
- All (12) tribes, will be scattered by God into different nation and not serve
their God.
- Israel is stolen from, hid in prison, but no one says restore.
- These curses are to be used as a SIGN and a WONDER. The TRUE nation
of Israel IS NOT to be a secret! The nation of Israel IS NOT LOST and
NEVER have been as a people. They have been lost spiritually!
- These curses are to last, not only for Israel of old, but even unto ALL of the
seed of Israel today. These curses still apply to the TRUE Israelites. ALL
(12) TRIBES!!
Makes you wonder what the angel of the Lord had John write in the book of Rev:
Rev 2:[8] And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These
things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
[9] I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are
not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Rev 3:[9] Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to
come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Here is just a little something to think about: When you DO find a PEOPLE that ALL of God’s CURSES have been put upon, you will have found Israel!!
ISRAEL.....WAKE UP!!!!
Be warned! You may be surprised with the results of your search!!!
Let’s first identify ALL (12) tribes;
Gen.46
[8] And these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt, Jacob and his sons: Reuben, Jacob's firstborn.
[10] And the sons of Simeon
[11] And the sons of Levi
[12] And the sons of Judah
[13] And the sons of Issachar
[14] And the sons of Zebulun
[16] And the sons of Gad
[17] And the sons of Asher
[19] The sons of Rachel Jacob's wife; Joseph, and Benjamin.
[23] And the sons of Dan
[24] And the sons of Naphtali
So God’s curses are not just for those from the tribe of Judah, which later was shortened to Jew, but to ALL TWELVE TRIBES in ALL of their dwellings.
Since we know the nation of Israel, all (12) tribes, did not keep Gods’ commandments, statues and laws, there is no need to try to apply ANY of God’s blessings to a country or a people that seem to fit the description! Why? Because Israel, the PEOPLE, did not obey their God! So the PEOPLE were cursed and NOT a country! In others words, God’s blessing or curse CANNOT be directed toward a country, only a PEOPLE. I can say that for a fact because of the following:
Deut.28
[2] And ALL these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, IF thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.
[10] And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the LORD; and they shall be afraid of thee.
[12] The LORD shall open unto thee his good treasure, the heaven to give the rain unto thy land in his season, and to bless all the work of thine hand: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow.
[13] And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath;
Now I’m sure someone could find a country that posses both blessings AND curses, but that country or people CANNOT be Israel because again, the blessing, or curses, were for a PEOPLE! And since the (12) tribes of Israel did not keep God’s commandments, NONE of God’s blessings can be associated with them. Let’s read:
Ezek.2
[3] And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.
Ezek.3
[7] But the house of Israel will not hearken unto thee; for they will not hearken unto me: for all the house of Israel are impudent and hardhearted.
Let’s look at it again in the book of Jeremiah;
Jer.3
[6] The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot.
[7] And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
[8] And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Since Israel, as a whole, did not hearken unto the Lord, they received NONE of the blessing God promised. The reason I said as a whole, is because God always had some that did obey Him; Moses, David, Job, and the prophets, to name a few. But overall Israel, as a nation, did not keep God’s commandments, statutes and laws.
So let’s read some of the curses that must STILL be upon ALL (12) TRIBES of ISRAEL! These curses MUST follow the people, ALL (12) TRIBES, wherever they dwell.
Deut.28
[15] But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
[16] Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
[17] Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
[18] Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
[38] Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.
[39] Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.
[40] Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
[41] Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.
[42] All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.
- Note these scriptures refer to a people and NOT a country.
- Israel will be cursed in the city and the fields.
- Israel will NOT get to enjoy the fruits of their labor.
- Israel’s sons and daughters will go into captivity.
[43] The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
[44] He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
- The strangers within the land wherever Israel dwells will come up higher and
will loan Israel money. (Understand; Israel WILL NOT be in their own land
because God had them scattered, vs. 64 below. So they are in a land NOT
their own, borrowing money, NOT LENDING!!!)
[25] The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
[64] And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
[65] And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
And Israel, all (12) tribes, will be scattered by God into different nation and not serve their God. Not migrate.....but be removed and scattered into ALL of the kingdoms of the earth.
Isa.42:[22] But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.
Israel is stolen from, hid in prison, but no one says restore. Think about all of the people that did receive restoration in their history; the people of the countries that suffered in WWI and WWII, and most conflicts around the world. But the true nation of Israel, God said no one would restore their loss.
Do you think of a large Jewish population “hid in prison houses” when you think of the prison system?
[46] And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
These curses are to be used as a SIGN and a wonder. The TRUE people of the nation of Israel IS NOT to be a secret! These curses are to last, not only for Israel of old, but even unto ALL of the seed of Israel today. These curses still apply to the TRUE Israelite. ALL (12) TRIBES!!
If you find a people to which ALL of these curses apply, you have found Israel.
These are just a FEW of the curses God said He would put upon Israel and her SEED FOREVER, if they did not obey His commandments. There are MANY more to be found in the scripture.
Now when you look at the people living in Jerusalem today, ask yourselves this question…..Are ALL of God’s curses really upon these people?
- Israel will be cursed in the city and the fields.
- Israel will NOT get to enjoy the fruits of their labor.
- Israel’s sons and daughters will go into captivity.
- The strangers within the land wherever Israel dwells will come up higher and
will loan Israel money. (Understand; Israel WILL NOT be in their own land,
and they will be borrowing money, NOT LENDING!!!)
- All (12) tribes, will be scattered by God into different nation and not serve
their God.
- Israel is stolen from, hid in prison, but no one says restore.
- These curses are to be used as a SIGN and a WONDER. The TRUE nation
of Israel IS NOT to be a secret! The nation of Israel IS NOT LOST and
NEVER have been as a people. They have been lost spiritually!
- These curses are to last, not only for Israel of old, but even unto ALL of the
seed of Israel today. These curses still apply to the TRUE Israelites. ALL
(12) TRIBES!!
Makes you wonder what the angel of the Lord had John write in the book of Rev:
Rev 2:[8] And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These
things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
[9] I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are
not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Rev 3:[9] Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to
come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Here is just a little something to think about: When you DO find a PEOPLE that ALL of God’s CURSES have been put upon, you will have found Israel!!
ISRAEL.....WAKE UP!!!!
Be warned! You may be surprised with the results of your search!!!
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Hezekiah Ben Israel on
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Ohhh a game of dodge the Question. Can I play?
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Permalink Reply by Eccl. 12:13 on
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Why not just use the scriptures and find out the truth. God gave us these signs so that we WILL know how the real Israel is. So with that said;
God said He would scatter Israel!
"And I will scatter you among the heathen"
"I will scatter them also among the heathen"
"I will scatter them as with an east wind before the enemy"
God said Israel would live in their enemies land!
"when they be in the land of their enemies"
"and disperse thee in the countries"
"when they be in the land of their enemies"
God said Israel would be a weak nation!
"thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them:"
"he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail."
God said they would be borrowers and NOT lenders of money!
"He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him
God said He would gather Israel!
"And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them"
When the True Israel is gathered they WILL be safe!
"and they shall fear no more"
God will gather ALL 12 tribes!
"and will bring them again to their folds"
God will give them shepards that speak the TRUTH!
"And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them"
And finally, from God's own mouth, God tells us of a people that worship in SYNAGOGUES and say they are Jews, but LIE!
"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; "
Now either God lied, or the people that call themselves Jews are lying! So let's compare;
Should the TRUE Israelite be living in the land today? NO!
But the people that say they are Jews live in the land.
Should the TRUE Israel be a powerful nation? NO!
But the people, living in the land, have WMD.
Should the TRUE Israel be a rich nation? NO!
But the people, living in the land, with WMD, are a wealthy nation with families of great bankers.
Should the TRUE Israel be gathered in the land yet? NO!
But the people, living in the land, with WMD, and families of great bankers were gathered in 1948.
Should the TRUE Israel be taught the truth when gathered? YES!
But the people, living in the land, with WMD, made up of famlies of wealthy bankers, gathered by MAN in 1948 are being taught lies. They are still waiting for Jesus FIRST return.
So who are you going to go with here?
The clear word of God I would hope!!!
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Permalink Reply by Chaplain Pat Harris on
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Eccl 12:13, Hezekiah & BruthaPharoah . . .
The scriptures are clear on the nation of Israel being scattered. But still, do you know where YOUR specific roots are located at this time? In other words, which of the 12 Tribes are you from and where are some of your descendants located?
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Permalink Reply by James Pierce on
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Chaplain,
I agree with you.... I am tired of my fellow Hebrew brothers trying to figure out which tribe they are from when those documents were destroyed with the temple in 70ad.
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Permalink Reply by newview on
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Sis, they have a chart and its a serious chart.
You can tell they put alot of time and effort into that chart...However, it is a very sad chart.
I will see if I can pull it up and then post it.
You will not believe who is who and why they are who.
I dont understand how they can tell who is Manasseh and Dan and such - from thousands of years ago but can't tell anything about their African tribal history.
I guess they dont want to research that - its too hurtful...I understand.
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Newview,
That chart is out of pure ignorance.
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Newview,
I just did lol.
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No you did not. Dont hide behind you cant find them - they are burned up and buried in Israel.
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Newview,
They were destroyed with the temple.
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