When There is No Law, There is No Sin
If there is no law, there is no Sin. Sin is transgression of the law. So, if sin is transgression of the law, we don't have to keep the Law because Jesus did it all, then I can steal, kill, lie, fornicate, commit adultery as long as I don't get caught. I can do Sunday because we don't have to keep the Sabbath because Jesus did it all. I can worship any Gods I want to because we don't have to keep the law. Jesus did it all.
1John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1John 5:1-3 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
James 2:8-12 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Matthew 5:19-20 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Romans 3:29-31 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 6:1-4 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Romans 7:7-13 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
All these scriptures mean nothing because Jesus did it all right?
We don't have to listen to these scriptures, there is no need to keep the law.
I mean really. Listen at how that sounds.
1John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1John 5:1-3 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
James 2:8-12 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Matthew 5:19-20 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Romans 3:29-31 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 6:1-4 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Romans 7:7-13 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
All these scriptures mean nothing because Jesus did it all right?
We don't have to listen to these scriptures, there is no need to keep the law.
I mean really. Listen at how that sounds.
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Permalink Reply by Pastor valentine on
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Our sin nature makes all born of a woman transgressors of God's word,will, and way. The law/comandments are part of God given tools to live a holy and sanctified life. The Law or the Comanments cannot make one holy or give soul salvation.We live in the Despensation of Grace[God's umerited Favour}. The dispensation of law is Passed, that is not to say that we should not strive to live by the guide lines of the law. In the great day of the Lord, many will Kiss the gates of Hell. Why? because the law could not save them, give them eternal life,keys to the new jerusalem. One cannot work or live there way into haveing a fellowship and relationship with Jesus the Christ. The Bible says it is by Faith that we are saved. NOT faith in the LAW, FAITH in our Lord and Saviour Jesus the Chrsit.
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Permalink Reply by Hezekiah Ben Israel on
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The law you keep talking about is the Animal sacrifice law.
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What about those NT verses. They mean nothing? Explain why they are in the Bible? Those verses I posted, why are they in the Bible, if we are not to keep the commandments of God, which is the agreement of the covenant. What is a covenant? Agreement between 2 or more entities. The LOrd said that if you keep my commandments, I will give you eternal life. That is the new covenant. The old covenant was that you had to keep the commandments, and animal sacrifice law, but we could not receive the promise of eternal life until Jesus died to get rid of the animal sacrifice law because the blood of bulls and goats could not take away sin. We were born into sin, and being Baptized, and repenting, and keeping the commandments from that point you can receive eternal life if you overcome until the end. Jesus' blood now can take away sin, since we were "Born into sin", but that doesn't mean now you can do what you want. Jesus' blood get's rid of sins past. I will post that scripture, but I am sure someone will rebuke it.
Romans 3:24-26 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Here is your question because of faith.
Romans 3:31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
What does God forbid mean?
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I kinda figured no one would post. I thought most would come beat this down. I guess we will see huh?
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Permalink Reply by Evangelist Altha Fugett on
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Maybe it's simply a matter of no longer casting pearls?
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What pearls? Your traditions? Give me a break..
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Permalink Reply by James Pierce on
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Pastor,
You stated that the laws does not make one holy. I think you do not understand what the term holy means. To be holy is to be "set apart." The Torah DOES make us holy unto Yah. This was the reason why Yah gave the Torah in the first place. We are to be Yah's treasured people.. a kingdom of Priests.. SET APART(holy) unto Him.
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The torah , bible or any other book does not make you Holy. It is you relationship and fellowship with Jesus the Christ. This is what make you HOlY [set apart]
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Pastor,
If you're in a relationship with Him without obedience, then it is not really a relationship. There is no relationship with the father or Messiah without obedience. Yah makes us set apart by obedience. Being set apart without obedience is not being set apart.
The books themselves do not make holy, rather, it is your ACTIONS OF OBEDIENCE that makes you holy. If you is in a TRUE relationship, and fellowshiping, then that means you are walking in obedience... keeping yourself free from the love of the world. Now THATS being set apart.
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You can only have a relationship with Christ Jesus. If you have accepted him as Lord and Saviour.The Grace of God covers all else,we are incapable of getting ourselves,so called right
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So, then I can sleep with your wife.
What is her number?
No Law, no commandments, no Adultery.
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Isaiah 56:10-11 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.
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