The Mark Of The Beast 666 braclets are HERE!!!!!

[Della Morton]

What are your thoughts on this topic?

[newview]

...But who's to say the bracelet doesn't have your social security number on it? It might just be called the 666 bracelet?...

Heehee...If its worth its salt - it had better have your social security number on it?
But to be frank with you sister - I dont think this is the Mark for a host of reasons.

[Della Morton]

But to be frank with you sister - I dont think this is the Mark for a host of reasons.
Please explain?

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Interesting points, and I'm not arguing the scriptures at all. They are all true, I just don't agree with the timing given by your interpretation.

-The Jewish Temple will be built, I can agree with that. The Temple being built however, does not have anything to do with the timing of the mark of the Beast. Nevertheless, it will be built, and the Church/Israel will be insulted by the Beast's actions.

-Revelation 4-5 describe the same scene, just different sections of the scene. There was no mention of the removal of the Church within these chapters to my knowledge, unless you can help me ID them. I've searched for years and never found clear evidence of Pre-Trib removal in the book of Revelation.

[newview]

Sister Morton, the # 1 reason I dont believe this is the Mark of the Beast is because - there are no scriptures that say the Mark would be a bracelet worn on your wrist or ankle.
And take a look at a few of so called 'marks' of the beast or the implementer of the 'mark':
The Swine Flu Vaccine
The Euro
National Identity Card
Super Market Discount Cards ( I used to think so)
Micro-chip
Finger Prints
Veri-chip
UPC Bar Code
I.O.U. is 666 - as in being in debt and the bibles says to owe no man
Debit Card
Social Security #
Green Card/ Working Visa
The Internet - as in world wide web: w.w.w.
1010011010 - the binary number of the beast
The number inside of the Pope’s diadem
The Catholic Church’s ‘mark’ was changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday
The Pope - every time the Pope of Rome officially signs a document, he writes the Latin equivalent of the number 666.
John F. Kennedy
Emperor Nero
Ronald Wilson Regan - each name has 6 letters
My boo ---> Barack
Now its a bracelet?

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Evangelist Fugett, you want the Son of GOD to DELAY His coming?????????? I said it before, and I'll say it again: Spoken like a true Evangelist!

The fact of the matter is that He will not come until these events happen in order, clearly stated by the LORD Himself (check to see if this is Pre, Mid, or Post Trib stuff for yourself):

-Matthew 24:4-5 says that there will be a rise of anti-Christs, spoken of also by Apostle John in his first epistle (check)
-Matthew 24:6-8 says that there will be wars and rumors of wars (check)
-Matthew 24:9 says that the believers will be persecuted for Christ's name sake, spoken of in 1st Peter 4:12-19 (already starting)
-Matthew 24:10 says that Christians will start to turn on each other (check)
-Matthew 24:11 says that false Prophets will rise up (check)
-Matthew 24:12-13 says that alot of saints will fall of for lack of strength in their faith (check)
-Matthew 24:14 says that the Gospel shall be preached in every nation before the end comes (we're getting there, so don't worry Evangelist Fugett)
-Matthew 24:15-28 says that the anti-Christ will rear his ugly head and we will see and know him, and we will be on the run for the tribulation of evil on the Saints (so much for Pre-Trib stuff)
-Matthew 24:29 says that some really weird stuff shall happen, and all of nature will be effected in a negative way (its coming soon)
-Matthew 24:30 shows the Son of Man appearing (can't wait for this to happen!)
-Matthew 24:31 says that He will then send His angels to gather the elect (can't wait for this also!)

JESUS said that He is not coming until we do our part of presenting the Gospel of JESUS Christ and the Kingdom of GOD to every known tongue, nation and tribe. JESUS also said that HE's not coming till the end of the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-30). Kinda hard to swallow, but hey, HE said it, not me. So don't worry, all the nations will get their fair chance. Everyone will get what they deserve, and deserve what they get, because it will all be by their own choice.

[Evangelist Altha Fugett]

My little Bro Trevor, just as soon as I posted that, lol, I said Trevor is going to call me out, Praise God, I agree with your above post, pre-trib, I may be, and it that moment HE calls I want to be on the battlefield spreading HIS Word to lost souls for the Kingdom of God, Be bless

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

You KNOW I had too!! LOL!

Its all good: Pre, Mid or Post Trib, so long as you are ready for the coming of Christ and ready to stand strong in case drama occurs beforehand.

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

I have only quoted what JESUS said Himself. If I'm wrong by chronological order, then He's wrong for presenting it in such an order. He mentioned no rapture of the saints before the tribulation when He spoke in Matthew 24. Matthew 24 and 25 are basically summaries of Revelation because they are all one long prophetic teaching by the Saviour on the Mount of Olives. Revelation speaks in detail of the events. Revelation never mentions the Pre-Trib rapture of the Church at all, unless I was mistaken and missed it somewhere.

Matthew 25's judgment is for the believers only.

[Della Morton]

Ok Let Me Throw this in Here. ‘Parousia’ meaning personal coming or appearance and is used both of the rapture and the second coming. At the rapture Christ appears personally in the air (He does not set foot on earth) to meet His saints, while at the second coming He appears personally to mankind on the earth (setting His feet to the ground) with His saints (notice it says ‘with’ not ‘coming to get’ but ‘with Him’ so we had to have been taken before this second coming). This word is generally translated ‘coming’ hence the rapture and the revelation are both called ‘the coming of the Lord.’ The word is used in this connection in:

1 Corinthians 15:20-23 (KJV)
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
1 Thessalonians 2:19 (KJV)
19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?

1 Thessalonians 3:13 (KJV)
13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 (KJV)
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 (KJV)
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 (KJV)

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

James 5:7-8 (KJV)
7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.
1 John 2:28 (KJV)
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

The following Scriptures 1 Thess. 3:13; 5:23 and 2 Thess 2:1 are sometimes used in connection with the second advent (coming) but are clearly only 1 Thess. 3:13 can rightfully used in connection with the ‘second coming’ for it states that He comes ‘with all His saints’ and not to ‘get all, or any, of His saints’.

Other Scriptures that refer to the ‘rapture’ and not the ‘second coming’:

Luke 21:34-36 (KJV)
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
John 14:1-4 (KJV)
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
1 Corinthians 15:51-58 (KJV)
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:1-8 (KJV)
1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Philippians 3:11 (KJV)
11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of (from) the dead.

Philippians 3:21 (KJV)
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Colossians 3:4 (KJV)
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (KJV)
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
2 Thessalonians 2:6-8 (KJV)
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
1 John 3:1-3 (KJV)
1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

[Rest Of God Ministries]

Brother Anthony R. Watson, I had to call your full name after read this response, This was truly a blessing, I would like to talk to you more on this subject. God bless you.

[Della Morton]

[Rest Of God Ministries]

This is what happened when they push the last swine flu vaccination.