Women are ordained by GOD to preach the gospel!
The Bible teaches that, "Truth crushed to the ground is rising again!" (Ps. 85:11 PP). A part of that truth that is springing forth from the earth is the truth about God and women. Scripture tells us that the 'the letter killeth, the spirit giveth life' (2 Cor. 3:6). A lot of things are written in Scripture that seemingly forbid women participation in the church. However, research has found that Paul's words were taken out of context and in fact, had more to do with protocol going on in the newly established churches of that time.
In the meantime, God's wisdom has taught me many things with regard to His will for women. The first thing taught is that God's will was always for 'men and women' to speak and Glorify His name everywhere, including in the church. Let us remember the original word from God concerning 'Adam/man' and 'Adam/woman' (Note:Scripture tells us that God originally referred to the man and woman as 'Adam' (Gen. 5:2) Adam then called the 'woman,' 'woman' and God honored that (Gen. 2:23-24). It was only after the fall that the 'woman' was named 'Eve' (Gen. 3:20). Talk about the '3 faces of Eve,' eh?
At any rate, the original will of God was 'equality' for man and woman. Scripture tells us that 'God put His Spirit in both WOMEN and men' (Mal. 2:15). As so, if the spirit of the Living God abides in women just as it does in men then it is impossible that God would mean, 'women can't speak or preach in church' for how else can one express the power, might, glory of God but by speaking it?
Where else can we glorify God amongst our own but in the church? Besides, Scripture says, 'the body is the temple of the Lord' and therefore we must glorify God in our 'Temple/body.' How much more shall we glorify God amidst a united temple of believers who dwell in church buildings? (1 Cor. 3:16). It is wrong to teach otherwise. The original command was 'God blessed, 'THEM', not just HIM but HER as well and stated, 'have dominion (subdue with kindness) the Earth and all that is therein" (Gen. 1:26-28). That's 'dominion' over the Earth and NOT each other.
Now, that said, the function of men and women is quite different. Masculinity does act as a figure head, that Femininity just naturally yields to within a marriage setting. I cannot tell you how many women want to feel protected with a strong, intelligent, righteous man. Unfortunately, with men so screwed up today, they are going to stay in 'want.'
At any rate, this function is proper in a marriage setting alone. Amidst that setting, the woman enjoys playing the nurturer, co-counselor in all 'decision' making aspects for Scripture says, 'it was not good for man to be alone' (Gen. 2:18). What that means is, not only physically alone, but as well alone, in making decisions. Hence, God would emphasize the importance of the woman's role when God brought His creation 'woman' to man. He more or less told Adam, 'now listen, you've been enjoying naming animals and the such, but now, this wonderful creation 'woman' is not for you to 'take authority over' in the sense that you have had the joy of naming animals I brought to you. She is now co-namer of all things with you. She is your equal and you must listen and heed her wisdom as that which is as great and important to your survival than your own thinking. In fact, she is your survival, your 'helper!' You cannot mentally, spiritually, etc, function right without her wise input!' (Gen. 2:24).
God seemed to instinctively know that He would have to strongly get that point across to the man as if he didn't, trouble would surely, erupt. Through the subsequent actions with regard to the 'fall', we see God was right to emphasize the importance of equality. That is, the first thing Adam did after the fall was 'blame' 'God and the woman.' He stated, 'it was that WOMAN that YOU gave me who is responsible for this' (Gen. 3:12).
That un-repentant mindset of Adam was passed down to men and to this day, men 'blame and fault' women for the wrongs of the world. Women in Scripture have always been portrayed from a negative perspective. In fact, women have been lied upon and blasphemed (Rev. 13:6).
For instance, Mary Magdalene has always been portrayed as a 'prostitute' when research now tells us that she was not. The same thing with 'Rahab'. Research now finds out that her alleged 'prostitution' was in reality, idol worship. Yeah sure, that Philistine woman, Delilah seduced Samson but he was just as guilty for going after that worldly type of woman in the first place. However, preachers curse her more than Samson's stupid, downright ridiculously flaunted 'worldly' behavior amidst being spirit-filled. (Jud. 13-16).
At any rate, back to the 'fall' and the different mentality that was about the man versus the woman. The woman fessed up to her wrongs. She admitted that she willfully listened to the deceiving serpent (Gen. 3:13). In so doing, she left no un-repentant ground for Satan to use. This is why righteous women throughout Scripture have always been the first to know of, and proclaim the might of God. Just look at the case of Samson's mother. The angel came to her, and she preached the truth to her husband, who doubted and was later visited by the angel (Judg. 13:2-25).
God's spirit was in Deborah and she was 'Judge' of all Israel (Judgs. 4). This truth alone, proves that God could not have meant that 'women shouldn't preach' as this woman not only preached, but led the whole nation.
Remember, Scripture says, 'God is the same today, yesterday and forever' (Heb. 13:8). Meaning, He did not mean for only these women of Old Testament Biblical history to lead and preach. Just look at the greatest miracle in American history, the woman Harriet Tubman. She bore witness that God raised 'HER' up. 19 times she went into the south and freed groups of God's enslaved people and 19 times, she successfully came out with men, women and children. No man, equalled what this valiant woman of God did. See then, God through his 'actions' is teaching us that 'He uses whom He will and His will is for women to preach, teach, prophesy and do exploits.' (Dn. 11:32).
Also, because of the King Barack's 'doubt and fear' during the reign of Deborah, the spirit of the Lord used the might and strength of the woman Jael to shame the 'man's' weakness and fear. Yes, Jael is the 'woman' song and praised throughout the ages for bringing down the enemy King Sisera (4:17-24). Can we hear a "Michele's in the white house representing?" :-)
Again, God's spirit is in both men and WOMEN and niether were meant to be constrained via demented males purposely misinterpreting the role of women. Male's misinterpretation stifled and destroyed many a good woman. Also, let us remember that God's testimony is, 'I hate divorce (Mal. 2:15). Yet, out of love and concern for women God allowed divorce in order to stop men from destroying women (Mal. 2:15).
In other words, 'divorce' was a gifted weapon from God to women. Fallen male's treatment of women can destroy the woman's role and function and so wreak havoc on planet earth. This happened in the past and it is happening today. In fact, it is prophesied that the anti-Christ will have no 'desire for women' (Dn. 11:37).
It is the spirit of Satan working through the hardhearted, un-repented mindset of fallen males. That 'Adam-ic' 'blame God and women' mentality is seen in males mistreatment of women worldwide. See, when Adam did not take responsibility for what he did, that part of his mindset became 'corrupted fertile ground.' As a result, Satan has had a field day using males to destroy God's precious creation, woman.
Just look at the so-called religion of Islam. The woman is oppressed and sorely afflicted. In Africa, the woman is chattel. The same with Asian nations. The male's warped, twisted mindset with regard to women keeps women and those nations steeped in darkness, chaos, destruction and death. This is the state of mind Adam unleashed for Satan to abuse when he did not repent of his evil participation in the fall and instead, 'blamed God and the woman' (Gen. 3:12).
Yet, we saw God's remedy towards Adam's action of standing there allowing the woman to be deceived (Gen. 3:1-8). God stepped in as husband to the woman and stood the ground that Adam should have stood by immediately expelling the serpent. At any rate, the serpent thought God's wrath would be upon the woman. However, instead, God stood up for the woman and informed the serpent that He too, would use the same trusting nature of the woman to bring down Satan's evil that he had just pulled off. In other words, God is proclaiming, "He still loves and cherishes the magnificent 'woman' He created."
However, let me say this, God did warn the woman of one of the consequences of her disobedience, he stated with regard to her husband Adam, 'your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall have rule over you' (Gen. 3:16). Male preachers have erroneously taught that that means God was giving the man 'rule over the woman.' However, reality is, God was warning the woman that the once 'equality' relationship she had with her husband in the garden was now 'destroyed'. The man would take 'illegal' rule over the woman. She would think or desire to be like it once was, but it was no more.
At any rate, God would use a woman to bring forth the redeemer to get back what Adam had just given away (Gen. 3:15). God would also 'put enmity' between Satan and the woman. Meaning, though Satan now had fertile ground to use the man's un-repentant state, the righteous women throughout the ages would be the key vessels used by the Most High to destroy the works of the devil.
Hence, we are told of mighty women used by God. There was Miriam the prophetess and leader of Israel right along with her brother Aaron and Moses. (Ex. 15:20; Mic. 6:4; etc.). Ruth and Naomi would come forth obediently setting the stage for the birth of King David who would be a type of Christ (Ruth 4:13-22). Esther would come forth and be the vessel God would use to stop a satanic genocide (Est.). Rahab a gentile African woman would be used to destroy idolatrous Canaanite factions (Josh. 2). Etc.
On and on the list would go of women being used mightily by God. As well, prophecy says in the last days, 'God would pour out His spirit on our sons and DAUGHTERS' (Joel 2:28-29). God said, the 'daughters' i.e. females i.e women would prophesy.' Well how can women prophesy i.e speak the profound truths of God if they are not allowed to 'speak or preach' in the church? Besides, in the New Testament this prophecy was fulfilled as Scripture makes mention of the 4 DAUGHTERS of Phillip 'prophesying' (Acts 21:9; 2:17). Again, the 'letter' i.e. 'written word' killeth but the Spirit through it 'actions' towards women gives life and truth with regard to God's will for women.
As so, on Pentacost, the Holy Spirit sure didn't believe women couldn't preach as the Holy Spirit came upon men and WOMEN and both were heard to be speaking the wisdom of God (Acts 2:17).
Not only that, prior to pentacost it was 'women' who were the first to know of, and speak the might and praises of God with regard to the Messiah's entrance on planet earth. Whereas, disobedient man was unaware of what was going on with regard to prophecy. Just read Luke's account of Elizabeth and Mary whose Hebrew name is Miriam. (Luke 1:39-56;) The fact is, the man Zachariah was stricken deaf and dumb for his 'unbelief' but not so, with the women. They with a loud voice, proclaimed, preached, annouced, and praised God before all of heaven for the miracle messiah that was now on Earth residing in the womb of young Mary/Miriam (Lk. 1:18-25).
Also, know this, it was women alone, who were the FIRST to know of the resurrected Christ (Matt. 28:1-11). It was none other than angels of the Most High, and Jesus himself, who commanded 'WOMEN' in the form of Mary Magdalene and the other 'women' to PREACH the first resurrection message (Mk. 16:1-8). The fact is, the might and righteousness of women gave them the strength to go to the tomb with intent to fulfill the Hebrew burial laws of God come what may, soldiers or no soldiers.
Whereas, the men were all cowardly hidden away. However, the women's fearless strength caused them to be the FIRST to PREACH of the resurrection. How then can preacher's erroneously preach that 'women must be silent, can't speak or preach?' The fact is, Paul must, have meant something else as he himself, often commended women preachers.
There was priscilla who was called an apostle right along with her husband (Acts 18:2, 18.26; Rom. 16:3). Phoebe was called a 'servant' but the Greek word for 'servant' was 'minister or preacher' (Rom. 1:16). Oh, and what happened to the many women on Pentacost who were baptized in the Holy Spirit? (Acts 2:17). Do you think they just kept silent after that day? No! It would have been a sin if they had. Instead, they too, went forth 'preaching and teaching.' We know that there were active spiritual groups run by women as Paul came upon the woman Lydia (Acts 16:14). Of a surety, she and the women with her were baptized in the Holy Spirit (Acts. 16:14-15).
In all these matters, please know of a certainty, that the 'letter' of the word taught erroneously has been a violation of God's will with regard to women. Women, like men, were ordained by Jesus/Yahshua Himself, to "go into all the world and PREACH' the gospel' (Mk. 16:15-18).
Bottom line, as all are baptized in the Holy Spirit, then 'all,' meaning both men and 'women,' should preach the word of God to a lost and dying world. We should not forsake the assemblying of ourselves together. We must come together as righteous men and WOMEN to preach, teach, prophesy within the church (Heb. 10:25).. It is the will of God. As such,, who can withstand it and prevail?!
In the meantime, God's wisdom has taught me many things with regard to His will for women. The first thing taught is that God's will was always for 'men and women' to speak and Glorify His name everywhere, including in the church. Let us remember the original word from God concerning 'Adam/man' and 'Adam/woman' (Note:Scripture tells us that God originally referred to the man and woman as 'Adam' (Gen. 5:2) Adam then called the 'woman,' 'woman' and God honored that (Gen. 2:23-24). It was only after the fall that the 'woman' was named 'Eve' (Gen. 3:20). Talk about the '3 faces of Eve,' eh?
At any rate, the original will of God was 'equality' for man and woman. Scripture tells us that 'God put His Spirit in both WOMEN and men' (Mal. 2:15). As so, if the spirit of the Living God abides in women just as it does in men then it is impossible that God would mean, 'women can't speak or preach in church' for how else can one express the power, might, glory of God but by speaking it?
Where else can we glorify God amongst our own but in the church? Besides, Scripture says, 'the body is the temple of the Lord' and therefore we must glorify God in our 'Temple/body.' How much more shall we glorify God amidst a united temple of believers who dwell in church buildings? (1 Cor. 3:16). It is wrong to teach otherwise. The original command was 'God blessed, 'THEM', not just HIM but HER as well and stated, 'have dominion (subdue with kindness) the Earth and all that is therein" (Gen. 1:26-28). That's 'dominion' over the Earth and NOT each other.
Now, that said, the function of men and women is quite different. Masculinity does act as a figure head, that Femininity just naturally yields to within a marriage setting. I cannot tell you how many women want to feel protected with a strong, intelligent, righteous man. Unfortunately, with men so screwed up today, they are going to stay in 'want.'
At any rate, this function is proper in a marriage setting alone. Amidst that setting, the woman enjoys playing the nurturer, co-counselor in all 'decision' making aspects for Scripture says, 'it was not good for man to be alone' (Gen. 2:18). What that means is, not only physically alone, but as well alone, in making decisions. Hence, God would emphasize the importance of the woman's role when God brought His creation 'woman' to man. He more or less told Adam, 'now listen, you've been enjoying naming animals and the such, but now, this wonderful creation 'woman' is not for you to 'take authority over' in the sense that you have had the joy of naming animals I brought to you. She is now co-namer of all things with you. She is your equal and you must listen and heed her wisdom as that which is as great and important to your survival than your own thinking. In fact, she is your survival, your 'helper!' You cannot mentally, spiritually, etc, function right without her wise input!' (Gen. 2:24).
God seemed to instinctively know that He would have to strongly get that point across to the man as if he didn't, trouble would surely, erupt. Through the subsequent actions with regard to the 'fall', we see God was right to emphasize the importance of equality. That is, the first thing Adam did after the fall was 'blame' 'God and the woman.' He stated, 'it was that WOMAN that YOU gave me who is responsible for this' (Gen. 3:12).
That un-repentant mindset of Adam was passed down to men and to this day, men 'blame and fault' women for the wrongs of the world. Women in Scripture have always been portrayed from a negative perspective. In fact, women have been lied upon and blasphemed (Rev. 13:6).
For instance, Mary Magdalene has always been portrayed as a 'prostitute' when research now tells us that she was not. The same thing with 'Rahab'. Research now finds out that her alleged 'prostitution' was in reality, idol worship. Yeah sure, that Philistine woman, Delilah seduced Samson but he was just as guilty for going after that worldly type of woman in the first place. However, preachers curse her more than Samson's stupid, downright ridiculously flaunted 'worldly' behavior amidst being spirit-filled. (Jud. 13-16).
At any rate, back to the 'fall' and the different mentality that was about the man versus the woman. The woman fessed up to her wrongs. She admitted that she willfully listened to the deceiving serpent (Gen. 3:13). In so doing, she left no un-repentant ground for Satan to use. This is why righteous women throughout Scripture have always been the first to know of, and proclaim the might of God. Just look at the case of Samson's mother. The angel came to her, and she preached the truth to her husband, who doubted and was later visited by the angel (Judg. 13:2-25).
God's spirit was in Deborah and she was 'Judge' of all Israel (Judgs. 4). This truth alone, proves that God could not have meant that 'women shouldn't preach' as this woman not only preached, but led the whole nation.
Remember, Scripture says, 'God is the same today, yesterday and forever' (Heb. 13:8). Meaning, He did not mean for only these women of Old Testament Biblical history to lead and preach. Just look at the greatest miracle in American history, the woman Harriet Tubman. She bore witness that God raised 'HER' up. 19 times she went into the south and freed groups of God's enslaved people and 19 times, she successfully came out with men, women and children. No man, equalled what this valiant woman of God did. See then, God through his 'actions' is teaching us that 'He uses whom He will and His will is for women to preach, teach, prophesy and do exploits.' (Dn. 11:32).
Also, because of the King Barack's 'doubt and fear' during the reign of Deborah, the spirit of the Lord used the might and strength of the woman Jael to shame the 'man's' weakness and fear. Yes, Jael is the 'woman' song and praised throughout the ages for bringing down the enemy King Sisera (4:17-24). Can we hear a "Michele's in the white house representing?" :-)
Again, God's spirit is in both men and WOMEN and niether were meant to be constrained via demented males purposely misinterpreting the role of women. Male's misinterpretation stifled and destroyed many a good woman. Also, let us remember that God's testimony is, 'I hate divorce (Mal. 2:15). Yet, out of love and concern for women God allowed divorce in order to stop men from destroying women (Mal. 2:15).
In other words, 'divorce' was a gifted weapon from God to women. Fallen male's treatment of women can destroy the woman's role and function and so wreak havoc on planet earth. This happened in the past and it is happening today. In fact, it is prophesied that the anti-Christ will have no 'desire for women' (Dn. 11:37).
It is the spirit of Satan working through the hardhearted, un-repented mindset of fallen males. That 'Adam-ic' 'blame God and women' mentality is seen in males mistreatment of women worldwide. See, when Adam did not take responsibility for what he did, that part of his mindset became 'corrupted fertile ground.' As a result, Satan has had a field day using males to destroy God's precious creation, woman.
Just look at the so-called religion of Islam. The woman is oppressed and sorely afflicted. In Africa, the woman is chattel. The same with Asian nations. The male's warped, twisted mindset with regard to women keeps women and those nations steeped in darkness, chaos, destruction and death. This is the state of mind Adam unleashed for Satan to abuse when he did not repent of his evil participation in the fall and instead, 'blamed God and the woman' (Gen. 3:12).
Yet, we saw God's remedy towards Adam's action of standing there allowing the woman to be deceived (Gen. 3:1-8). God stepped in as husband to the woman and stood the ground that Adam should have stood by immediately expelling the serpent. At any rate, the serpent thought God's wrath would be upon the woman. However, instead, God stood up for the woman and informed the serpent that He too, would use the same trusting nature of the woman to bring down Satan's evil that he had just pulled off. In other words, God is proclaiming, "He still loves and cherishes the magnificent 'woman' He created."
However, let me say this, God did warn the woman of one of the consequences of her disobedience, he stated with regard to her husband Adam, 'your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall have rule over you' (Gen. 3:16). Male preachers have erroneously taught that that means God was giving the man 'rule over the woman.' However, reality is, God was warning the woman that the once 'equality' relationship she had with her husband in the garden was now 'destroyed'. The man would take 'illegal' rule over the woman. She would think or desire to be like it once was, but it was no more.
At any rate, God would use a woman to bring forth the redeemer to get back what Adam had just given away (Gen. 3:15). God would also 'put enmity' between Satan and the woman. Meaning, though Satan now had fertile ground to use the man's un-repentant state, the righteous women throughout the ages would be the key vessels used by the Most High to destroy the works of the devil.
Hence, we are told of mighty women used by God. There was Miriam the prophetess and leader of Israel right along with her brother Aaron and Moses. (Ex. 15:20; Mic. 6:4; etc.). Ruth and Naomi would come forth obediently setting the stage for the birth of King David who would be a type of Christ (Ruth 4:13-22). Esther would come forth and be the vessel God would use to stop a satanic genocide (Est.). Rahab a gentile African woman would be used to destroy idolatrous Canaanite factions (Josh. 2). Etc.
On and on the list would go of women being used mightily by God. As well, prophecy says in the last days, 'God would pour out His spirit on our sons and DAUGHTERS' (Joel 2:28-29). God said, the 'daughters' i.e. females i.e women would prophesy.' Well how can women prophesy i.e speak the profound truths of God if they are not allowed to 'speak or preach' in the church? Besides, in the New Testament this prophecy was fulfilled as Scripture makes mention of the 4 DAUGHTERS of Phillip 'prophesying' (Acts 21:9; 2:17). Again, the 'letter' i.e. 'written word' killeth but the Spirit through it 'actions' towards women gives life and truth with regard to God's will for women.
As so, on Pentacost, the Holy Spirit sure didn't believe women couldn't preach as the Holy Spirit came upon men and WOMEN and both were heard to be speaking the wisdom of God (Acts 2:17).
Not only that, prior to pentacost it was 'women' who were the first to know of, and speak the might and praises of God with regard to the Messiah's entrance on planet earth. Whereas, disobedient man was unaware of what was going on with regard to prophecy. Just read Luke's account of Elizabeth and Mary whose Hebrew name is Miriam. (Luke 1:39-56;) The fact is, the man Zachariah was stricken deaf and dumb for his 'unbelief' but not so, with the women. They with a loud voice, proclaimed, preached, annouced, and praised God before all of heaven for the miracle messiah that was now on Earth residing in the womb of young Mary/Miriam (Lk. 1:18-25).
Also, know this, it was women alone, who were the FIRST to know of the resurrected Christ (Matt. 28:1-11). It was none other than angels of the Most High, and Jesus himself, who commanded 'WOMEN' in the form of Mary Magdalene and the other 'women' to PREACH the first resurrection message (Mk. 16:1-8). The fact is, the might and righteousness of women gave them the strength to go to the tomb with intent to fulfill the Hebrew burial laws of God come what may, soldiers or no soldiers.
Whereas, the men were all cowardly hidden away. However, the women's fearless strength caused them to be the FIRST to PREACH of the resurrection. How then can preacher's erroneously preach that 'women must be silent, can't speak or preach?' The fact is, Paul must, have meant something else as he himself, often commended women preachers.
There was priscilla who was called an apostle right along with her husband (Acts 18:2, 18.26; Rom. 16:3). Phoebe was called a 'servant' but the Greek word for 'servant' was 'minister or preacher' (Rom. 1:16). Oh, and what happened to the many women on Pentacost who were baptized in the Holy Spirit? (Acts 2:17). Do you think they just kept silent after that day? No! It would have been a sin if they had. Instead, they too, went forth 'preaching and teaching.' We know that there were active spiritual groups run by women as Paul came upon the woman Lydia (Acts 16:14). Of a surety, she and the women with her were baptized in the Holy Spirit (Acts. 16:14-15).
In all these matters, please know of a certainty, that the 'letter' of the word taught erroneously has been a violation of God's will with regard to women. Women, like men, were ordained by Jesus/Yahshua Himself, to "go into all the world and PREACH' the gospel' (Mk. 16:15-18).
Bottom line, as all are baptized in the Holy Spirit, then 'all,' meaning both men and 'women,' should preach the word of God to a lost and dying world. We should not forsake the assemblying of ourselves together. We must come together as righteous men and WOMEN to preach, teach, prophesy within the church (Heb. 10:25).. It is the will of God. As such,, who can withstand it and prevail?!
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Permalink Reply by Dawn Davidson on
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Brother YahsNllvllm,
You wrote:
I will tell yall this it smells like Willie lynch up in here up in here all day long. I do not know why anyone would want the job of Pastor. we must be crazy for taking it. Leading people who do not want to be lead and people pointing out every mis-step that you make. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Pastoring is a hard job. It comes with a great responsibility and it is not to be taken lightly.
I know and the responsibility and gravity of such is just too much for even God to overcome in the female. Wow, and I thought He had All Power. (I am sorry, no harm intended but just couldn't help it. Given the reality of the true garden word the patronizing here is just ridiculous). -
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Permalink Reply by Ms. Elaine Johnson on
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See Yahsnivim when you say, 'do not like our position' you are wrong. We are explaining our God-given position as the Word of God truly expressed it.
Here's the deal, males have taught that women can't preach, teach, evangelize, etc. and all we are doing is saying that according to the word of YHWH that's a lie. We are correcting the misinterpretation presented by fallen males.
We love being women who preach, teach, evangelize, prophesy, etc. just as YHWH in His word shows that women were always meant to do. Our position is divine in and of itself, and we are blessed that the Second Adam came and corrected what the first Adam destroyed.
So you see, the pecking order is fine in and of itself. It's just that we need to know the true meaning of the might within the Divine order God established for women. Truth crushed to the ground is rising again and that at the will of the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit). See, no usurping, or disliking our feminity rather we are exalting YHWH's might as worked through our femininity.
Why is it that the first thing that comes to your mind is, 'we don't like femininity' when that is not the case? Like the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31, we are simply showing YHWH's might worked through women. Oh, by the way, the virtuous woman was a spiritual powerhouse and an entrepreneur while simultaneously taking care of her family. Now, what are you going to do with that reality that we haven't even begun to bring forth as evidence of the true power and might of YHWH expressed through the divine woman. :-) -
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Permalink Reply by Adrian Lamar West Sr. on
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question for you all
IF ADAM BY SAYING HE WAS A MAN LIED/WHO OR WHAT DID CREATE????????????? -
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Good afternoon AliYah, listen I'm in full agreement with you with regard to the function of women. Motherhood is a wonderful calling. However, from Scripture we know that there is so much more. Women have been called by YHWH to preach, teach, evangelize as well as run their homes. Sure, righteous men role as 'head' is a good thing, if he is a 'good' man and understands that 'head' doesn't mean 'boss, domineeringing, abuse' and all that rubbish that fallen, demented males have twisted YHWH's word to mean.
For the record, the virtuous woman was a businessowner with employees or servants as they were called in ancient history. Please do not assume that the women who have spoken in this forum are saying anything different. I know, I'm not and in fact, it is the 'assumption' that is itself a sin before YHWH. The women and righteous men who YHWH has raised up to reveal the truth about the full, glorious, function of women are being unfairly judged as going against our Savior's will when in reality we are fulfilling it by speaking the truth in season and out. Nonetheless, we count it all joy and praise our Lord Savior for counting us worthy of persecution for his namesake for so persecuted they the prophets which were before us, and great is our reward in heaven.
Bottom line, we are 'not' twisting YHWH's word quite the contrary we are 'un-twisting' the lies and distortions that fallen male's put out with regard to the woman's full, glorious Christ assigned role.
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Permalink Reply by Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene on
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Its interesting that you used those verses:
-Esther was queen and she decreed, after aiding in saving Israel, that there be a holy feast called Purim. Moses didn't do that, but Esther while aided by her uncle Mordecai. I heard one man go as far as to say that the Feast of Purim is questionable amongst the feasts, because Moses didn't write it. The truth of the matter is, he rejected the feast because a woman had a hand in leading it.
-You mentioned in Titus about the woman there teaching, but that was specifically in reference to what she does in her personal home. Likewise, the men were given a similar order. -
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"A man rejecting a feast because a woman had a hand in it sounds more like an opinion" says these 'opininated males who have burst into my post to reject in. lol
Furthermore, it is not a given that the message in Esther was that Queen Vashti was wrong rather, the message was that God used her resistance to male sexist barbarism to promote Esther for the upcoming genocide. No where but in the mind of male preachers is it taught that Vashti was bad to resist such a sexist order. Rather, God is showing all how 'sexist' and sick the male was towards the women of Persia.
Only a male would take this incident as more ammon for women subjugation instead of taking it as proof that males without God will oppress women but God will use the 'women' amidst that madness to bring about the victory. In this case, a genocide was stopped. -
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Hi AliYah, thanks for the correction on gender. You are a female influenced by male interpreted doctrine just like the false religions of the world influence their females to respond to male interpretation of doctrine. That's fine. I'll pray for you just as you seem to think you need to pray for me now that you finally got around to reading my post instead of just 'pre-judging' it without reading it.
Okay dear, let me tell you that I'm a blessed African/American woman of matured age, married over 22 yrs., and know the facts that my Savior speaking through the Rauch Hakodash has spoken to me is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Again, I thank you for correcting me with regard to your gender. Now, with regard to your comments on Vashti, I do not agree. I do NOT believe the message is 'Vashti was bad to disobey the sexism her husband hurled at her' rather, the message is 'behold fallen man's state of mind towards women.' We know this is the case because the Bible tells us that it was a Eunuch who prepped Esther on how to 'get along' so to speak, with this ogre, sexist king (Esth. 2:8-9).
We also know that the males were worried that the women of the kingdom would speak up and out against their sexist, drunken ramblings that called for the woman to parade herself like a piece of beef (Est. 1;10-18).
This is proven through the Scriptures you and your group member's quoted with regard to the 'modesty 'of women According to those Scriptures women wouldn't nor shouldn't allow a man to parade them for their 'outward ordained beauty' such as the King of Persia sought to do with Vashti.'
Again, God simply used her righteous rebellion against male sexism to set the stage for Esther. Nowhere in those Scripture is God revealing that He is condemning her for resisting their madness. Rather, is it solely the males condemning and fearing this Queen who stood up for her rights not to be paraded about as a piece of meat.
Yes, Vashti was replaced for her resistance but it was demented males who replaced her out of their selfishness. In other words, they liked women subjugation to their damnable ways and would get rid of any and all righteous resistance come what may.
No righteous person reading Scripture can deny that that is the mindset out of which those sexist pigs spoke for it is right there is Scripture for all to behold (Esth. 1:14-22). -
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Well, first of all, hi and how are you? Full of words, I see. One thing I will say to you now that you finally got around to reading the word of God I originally posted rather than just feeling antagonized and judging it pre-reading is this, GOD has backed up His word as I spoke it, and I put Scripture and verse there to prove it to all with 'eyes to see and ears to hear.'
Secondly, I love Yahweh, Yahshua and the Ruach Hakadosh and I know the words in the entire Bible to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth that's why I put them in there. Perhaps, you should re-read my post and pray the Ruach Hadkadosh? give you understanding rather than rambling all off key on this 'order' matter. Afterall, ther facts I put forth are all taken from that orderly Bible.
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Adrian West Said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Preach or to proclaim/ which one is it/ one sided this is not a contest......
I just asked for scriptural references as to Women Preaching. For the simple fact that as many write on here and say out in the World You is a Preacher.......
From that now describe where Women where Preaching the Gospel/ as well as Holding Positions of Authority..........
Don't want your info.. What the WORD says will suffice.............
So you are saying that a woman has no right to "preach/proclaim the Gospel of JESUS"? Are you saying that only we men over came him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb and the WORD OF OUR TESTIMONY? If you will be REAL for just one split second, you can easily find in the Bible women the taught men, and preached the Gospel. JESUS Himself sent Mary to tell His disciples that HE rose again. That was the first time the Gospel message was "proclaimed". How did John and Peter take it? The same as you: they bypassed the woman and went to check it out themselves, only to find that it was true. Have you forgotten this account? What about John 4? Didn't she declare and proclaim that JESUS was the Messiah? What did they do? The same you woulda done AGAIN: bypass her and go just to find out that she was right. If you keep bypassing the women, you will come to the point that you have touch the LORD's anointed. JESUS said the harvest is plentiful but the laborers are few, therefore pray the LORD of the harvest send more laborers. Men have complained that there aren't enough workers of the ministry around. Now women show up with their sleeves rolled up ready to help get people saved, and you have a problem with that???? Ruth worked the wheat field and Boaz commanded his servants to not hinder her, but leave some behind for her to gleam also. Why are you not doing the same for our Ruths of today, for they have their Kinsmen/Redeemer in Christ JESUS?
Gamaliel said a wise thing in Acts 5. He said concerning the disciples to leave them alone and see if what they are doing is from their own and not GOD, then it comes to nothing, but if it be of GOD, then watch out, for you may find yourself fighting against the Almighty. Did you know that there is a woman by the name of Tabitha in Acts that was a disciple? I suggest you leave them alone and see if it bring GOD glory or shame. -
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That is when the resurrection of Yeshua was proclaimed/ the Gospel had been being preached before then
Too preach as you say they were not doing/seeing as how they would be doing what alot of you are doing preaching salvation to the saved.....
You seem as though you know what I think/ but just let the Word be the Word..............
If most of you scholars would be as Peter and John/ that is to check things out you would be able to spot your false prophets and teachers........As far as Women teaching Men if that were so why?? would Paul/Saul tell her to get widom from her Husband(you do know that don't you?).
The shame comes from so many years that the Women have been trying to rule over the Man at Home and in the Churches/ that all you have right now is a bunch of chaos going on........
Right now do you think God is pleased at the present state of the Body of christ??????????
Many a women have gleaned in the fields/ yet you all use one to build a Kingdom....There were many Widows during the Famine yet only one was blessed/I know Brother that is not what you are talking about/ but what you are saying is of no significance to the topic........
The sister who just wrote about titus to you/ yet you changed the discussion as many of tomes you do to dispute about a feast/not understanding what is being said/now that is not helping yet hindering
Gamaliel was speaking of the Apostles/ How many of them were Women standing there????????? -
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Here! Here! Preach! Preach! Let God be true and all men who speak otherwise the liars and deceivers that the Spirit of God finds them to be. Amen and Amen my brother, God bless you!
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Wow, I know this is going to be strange coming from me but I agree with your post from the first word to the last word.
I call what these women are doing, "spiritual lesbianism."
Women trying to take the place of men. -
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