Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.

[Maria]

it's not pathetic reasoning, you stated that the prerequisite to marriage is the ability to conceive. therefore, if a couple wasn't able to conceive or decided to never have kids, then why would they even get married in the first place? some couples choose never to have kids and some couples who don't even believe in god and are allowed to be married under god...

[Lester Demings Jr]

"it's not pathetic reasoning, you stated that the prerequisite to marriage is the ability to conceive."

That it is not only pathetic reasoning it is ignorant to even say that and believe it.
There are couples who have decided they don't want children so does that mean they are in sin?
Or the couple that cannot conceive?
Are they also in sin?
The biblical reasoning for marriage is not to have children.
You can have children outside of marriage- either by fornication, adultery or adoption.
That is why it is good to speak the Word concerning homosexuality and get back to the Bible- especially if you are not intelligent enough to have these types of discussions.
The same people that are demeaning homosexuality are divorced so I assume they are going to be commit themselves to God until their last hour because if they marry again it will count as adultery- and THAT is Word right out of the mouth of Jesus.

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

I "agree" with you the "prerequisite" to marriage is the ability to withstand the stench of poop.
I said the purpose, not prerequisite. I think homosexuals cant even understand English! Here I am , African born in the bush and i know the difference between "prerequisite" and "purpose".
Purpose is about the goal to which you intend to marry, prerequisite is about the tools/modalities/innate abilities for achieveing your purpose which is your goal.I may want to marry and have a family, but i dont have the prerequisite. Why? A tiger fish bit off my d&^K when I was swimming in the Nile.

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

You say when a Woman can't conceive it is not a normal situation/ something is wrong with their reproductive system.......

Not at all truthful....sir............

[Maria]

"The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exhibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce."

so do you also not believe in oral contraception? if the whole point of sex is to reproduce shouldn't women and men be having sex solely for that purpose? by this logic any form of oral contraception would be a sin because the ability to reproduce is blocked.
if the only reason god created marriage is for reproduction, then there is no reason for heterosexual couples to get married who are too old to conceive, unable to conceive, or never plan to conceive.
also, you not wanting a group of people in your church based on something they can't control is sickening. basically, god's interpretation: love your neighbour....mans interpretation: love your heterosexual neighbour hate your homosexual neighbour. yes you can say all you want that you don't hate homosexuals...but what do you call not allowing them in your church, mocking their lifestyle, and opposing the marriage of two gay people that love each other?
anyways, i think the church should be doing something productive, these gay marriage protests really aren't helping anyone.

[Maria]

it sounds like you don't think for yourself and rely on scripture to do all of your thinking.
it's common sense that two people that love each other should be able to get married. it's not that tough of a concept. love=marriage.

[Maria]

that's your opinion judge me all you want i don't care....
it's a fact that people are born homosexual god created them that way. but i take it you don't personally know anyone who is homosexual and are ignorant to the fact that they are born that way. they're not that way cause they're posessed by the devil or whatever else your bible says, it's not something they can change and i don't think anyone should judge them for that.

canada isn't a lawless society. we have much much much lower crime rates, gangs, drugs....much much much more racial tolerance, sexual preference tolerance, and religious tolerance. this is all in comparison to the states. it doesn't sound like canada's doing too bad after all.

[Maria]

it all depends on your interpretation of the bible..i just choose to focus more on love than on hate.
the problem isn't what god says the problem is that somehow the only rule these hypocritical christians follow is the against gay marriage rule. if you can pick and choose what you want to follow, so can i. no one says anything about "man of god" bebe winans beating his ex-wife. ex-wife you say? indeed he got a divorce, why would he do that when the bible says it's wrong? well, it's quite simple, he's a hypocrite. if you really want to follow the bible divorce is much much worse than gay marriage. so why are there no divorce protests? any pressure from christians to make divorce illegal?

anyways, you are ignoring proven facts tho, people are born homosexual. it's not something that can be changed. get to know some homosexual people and you will understand them better, your opinions might change.

[Maria]

i think we have different gods:)
sorry, i meant divorce and remarry..my bad...

[Lester Demings Jr]

"no one says anything about "man of god" bebe winans beating his ex-wife. ex-wife you say? indeed he got a divorce, why would he do that when the bible says it's wrong? well, it's quite simple, he's a hypocrite."

First, I'll say the reason why no one is saying anything about BeBe Winans is because in the U.S. if you are a "church" celebrity you are excused from any type of negative commentary. Another leader was cheating on his wife and even had 2 children out of wedlock and now he has MORE members and a show on BET "proclaiming the Word of God." The church only follow the Word when they CHOOSE to not when the Word says they need to.
The church has the highest divorce rate among any other group of people however they are more concerned with what somebody else is doing in their bedroom. We have poor people, homeless people, those without clothes, unemployed, and all other manner of issues but all the church is worried about is who sleeping with whom- well among same sex relationships that is. Heterosexuals can "frolic" all they choose to and not one word is spoken.
Divorce is not wrong but divorcing then marrying again is wrong. Jesus said it is counted as adultery.
Lastly, don't expect church folk (or those who are above reproach) to follow the Word of God letter by letter, line by line and book by book. That will never happen.

[Maria]

nope i still have my bible. it's funny that the people that judge me the most are "people of god." hmmm...what does the bible say about that?

[Maria]

my god says that two people that love each other have every right to get married:) for he is a loving god:)