Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?
Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.
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Permalink Reply by Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene on
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John said:
"I agree with what you are saying Brother Trevor. I get into this a lot but I'm speaking of the WHITE Israelites that come from Japheth with claims of being Israelites that came from the Khazars/Ashkenazis? I know the true Hebrew/Israelites came from Shem but I doubt Shem was white. Now we'd have to get into the breakdown of genes for color. That's a long study but check this out. Never mind I couldn't copy it. I'll try again another time or send it to your email."
Truthfully, a Hebrew/Israelite can also be a person mixed with another race and Hebrew blood. Ethiopian Jews, Japanese Jews, Russian Jews, European Jews, ect.
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Permalink Reply by John on
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Once again I agree after all Rahab was a Canaanite and she was King David's great grandmother. It also shows that mostly the Hebrew mixed with the Canaanites more so than with those from Japheth's lineage. Also the ten tribles (the weren't Jews but were Israelites) and were scattered all over the place. The Jews came from the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin who were in Jerusalem while the ten tribes were in Israel. So not the Jews that traveled to Russia, Japan, China but the Israelites. Remember the Israelites when taken by the Assyrians never came back to Israel I believe but the Jews (Judah) when taken by the Babylonians actually came back to Jerusalem after the 70 year captivity and rebuilt the temple until the Romans burned it down. The Israelites (ten tribes) weren't included in that. God had something against them for how they treated their brother Judah (Judha, Benjamin of Jerusalem the Jews). They were called Jews because they were from Jerusalem (Jewry Land). Hence why there are three sects of Jews today, the Sephardim (Spanish), Eastern Jews (came to America) and the now (so called) Jew that is in Israel today. None of these three groups like one another. My learning shows where the Catholic Church and the Khazars-Ashkenazis got together to think they could steal the birthplace for the real Jews when they return. You can see that these speak Yiddish and that is not Hebrew and most of them can't even speak Hebrew. Look at Genesis 10:3 and see who Ashkenaz is from and it's not Shem.
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Very true, however, they do hold a piece of the blood line, Yiddish speaker or not. I'm African American, but I can't speak a lick of any African dialect.
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You and I could also be Hebrew/Israelite/Jew too since Canaan mixed with Shem. So when the time comes all of a sudden we could feel the urge to go to Israel. LOL I'm mean come on it's possible.
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True, it is. However, I am a citizen of the Kingdom of Israel by way of the bloodline of JESUS!
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But He said there is neither Jew nor Gentile so what is the Kingdom of Israel? I only know of the Kingdom of God. Thanks.
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What is the Kingdom of Israel? You have to ask "What does the ISRAEL mean?"
Some say the name comes from the verb śarar ("to rule, be strong, have authority over"), thereby making the name mean "God rules" or "God judges". Other possible meanings include "the prince of God" (from the King James Version) or "El fights/struggles". So to take those names and use the literal definition, when one says "the Kingdom of Israel", one is saying these meanings:
-the Kingdom of the "Prince of GOD", which is JESUS
-the Kingdom of "GOD's rule", which we are under
-the Kingdom of "Judged by GOD", which we are only judged by
-the Kingdom of the "fighting GOD" aka the LORD of Hosts, which HE does fight for us
You know of these things, and yet "don't know" of them only because you refer to them differently. This is what it is to be a Christian. The book of Romans if read clearly like the letter it is, not bit by bit like how preachers want to, speaks of this all the way through.
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You misunderstood why I asked you this question! I know what it is and means. I asked that to ask you why you feel you are under the Kingdom of Israel! If notice Israel actually means "God Prevails" and the name He called Jacob from then on. Romans was about Paul telling them about righteousness being a "free gift from God. Paul believed in the Kingdom of God and can't find anything whatsoever about a Kingdom of Israel in the NT and only 3 places in the OT and it was for the Jews/Israelites. You can find it in 1Samuel and 1Kings only with the term "kingdom of Israel". The Kingdom of Israel was never preached by the Apostles or Jesus Christ. Just out of curiosity was my question as to why you are under the Kingdom of Israel. You must feel you are an Israelite. Personally I don't feel I'm under the Kingdom of Israel but the the Kingdom of God. Just my opinion and I'm not debating at all. Was curiosity as I stated that's all. Thanks and God bless.
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To say that you are not under the Kingdom of Israel but under the Kingdom of GOD is actually a contradiction simply because I stated already that Israel's meaning is "Prince of GOD". JESUS is called the Prince in the Book of Acts by Apostle Peter; He is called GOD numerous times in the NT; there is a prophetic word in the Bible that declares Him to be "Israel". So to say Kingdom of Israel in OT mentality is to speak of the Hebrews, but to say Kingdom of Israel in NT is to speak of the Kingdom ruled by JESUS.
I never refered to myself as an Israelite in the earthly sense, however I do in the spiritual sense, according to the Word of GOD (Romans 2, Romans 11, ect.). It all deals with wording and revelation, not bloodlines of Shem Ham or Japheth......
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I know that I'm in no way contradicting myself Trevor. That is your interpretation and as I stated I'm not getting into a debate. Get yourself a Strongs and see what Israel means and you will see it is "God Prevails". I still see no where in Romans 2 and 11 anything referring to the kingdom of Israel. Anyway Trevor it's always good to respond with you. God bless.
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A Strong's isn't "strong enough", because it only brings one interpretation of the name.
Romans 2:28-31 speaks of being "a Jew inwardly", and Romans 11 speaks of both the Jews being saved, and we being grafted into the olive tree, which is Israel.
Its also always a pleasure responding, debate or not.
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