Please Read Romans 14:1-5 and Stop The Fighting
Romans 14:1 "Him that is weak in the
faith receive ye, [but] not to doubtful disputations."
We can easily see from this, that just because someone is not a
trained Bible scholar is no reason not to fellowship with them. We are
warned not to get into arguments with them that might lead to their
not believing. The new convert to Christianity should be fed milk and
honey for a while, until they are able to understand the deeper things
in the Word. I Corinthians 3:1 "And I, brethren, could not speak unto
you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, [even] as unto babes in
Christ." I Corinthians 3:2 "I have fed you with milk, and not with
meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are
ye able." You can clearly see from this that, a person who has just
been saved is not quite ready for the things of the Spirit. A babe in
Christ needs a little time to get the flesh under subjection of the
spirit. We Christians of long standing sometimes forget how hard it
was at first to get the flesh to obey the spirit.
Romans 14:2 "For one believeth that he may eat all things:
another, who is weak, eateth herbs."
I Timothy 4:4 "For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing
to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:" We know that
anything we have prayed over is clean and may be eaten without fear of
condemnation from God. The secret is the prayer, the prayer made it
clean for us. I Timothy 4:5 "For it is sanctified by the word of God
and prayer." The person who is eating herbs is doing it from lack of
knowledge. We, who know that it is alright to eat meat, should not
make fun of a fellow Christian who feels it is wrong. We could however
show him the following Scripture. I Timothy 4:1 "Now the Spirit
speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from
the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;"
I Timothy 4:2 "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience
seared with a hot iron; " I Timothy 4:3 "Forbidding to marry, [and
commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be
received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
Romans 14:3 "Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not;
and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath
received him." Romans 14:4 "Who art thou that judgest another man's
servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be
holden up: for God is able to make him stand."
This tells me that to the fulness of the knowledge that we
possess at the time, we should do our best to be pleasing to God.
I Corinthians 10:29 "Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the
other: for why is my liberty judged of another [man's] conscience?"
Here, we see the answer to it all. Whatever we do, we must do it with
a clear conscience. Again I say, God will not hold you responsible
for the things you do not know, if you have made an effort to do what
you believe to be pleasing to Him. Why don't we just let God handle
His business? We are not anyone's judge, God is. What God does with
someone else is not our business.
Romans 14:5 "One man esteemeth one day above another: another
esteemeth every day [alike]. Let every man be fully persuaded in his
own mind."
Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in
drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the
sabbath [days]:" These are both interesting Scriptures, in face of
the fact that, the Jews celebrate Saturday as their Sabbath, and the
Christians celebrate Sunday as the Lord's day or first fruits. We are
told to be fully persuaded that what we are doing is pleasing to God.
We are to celebrate with a clear conscience. Whatever day you esteem,
do it as unto the Lord.
Romans 14:6 "He that regardeth the day, regardeth [it] unto the
Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not
regard [it]. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God
thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth
God thanks."
God is not so interested in the technicality of what day we
celebrate as He is in the fact that we have chosen an individual day
and set it aside to worship in. God wants our heart to be in
worshipping Him. We know that Jesus said, that the sabbath was made
for man and not man for the sabbath. Mark 2:27 "And he said unto
them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:" You
see from this it is not the day that is important, but the fact that
we choose to worship God one day a week.
faith receive ye, [but] not to doubtful disputations."
We can easily see from this, that just because someone is not a
trained Bible scholar is no reason not to fellowship with them. We are
warned not to get into arguments with them that might lead to their
not believing. The new convert to Christianity should be fed milk and
honey for a while, until they are able to understand the deeper things
in the Word. I Corinthians 3:1 "And I, brethren, could not speak unto
you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, [even] as unto babes in
Christ." I Corinthians 3:2 "I have fed you with milk, and not with
meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are
ye able." You can clearly see from this that, a person who has just
been saved is not quite ready for the things of the Spirit. A babe in
Christ needs a little time to get the flesh under subjection of the
spirit. We Christians of long standing sometimes forget how hard it
was at first to get the flesh to obey the spirit.
Romans 14:2 "For one believeth that he may eat all things:
another, who is weak, eateth herbs."
I Timothy 4:4 "For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing
to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:" We know that
anything we have prayed over is clean and may be eaten without fear of
condemnation from God. The secret is the prayer, the prayer made it
clean for us. I Timothy 4:5 "For it is sanctified by the word of God
and prayer." The person who is eating herbs is doing it from lack of
knowledge. We, who know that it is alright to eat meat, should not
make fun of a fellow Christian who feels it is wrong. We could however
show him the following Scripture. I Timothy 4:1 "Now the Spirit
speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from
the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;"
I Timothy 4:2 "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience
seared with a hot iron; " I Timothy 4:3 "Forbidding to marry, [and
commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be
received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
Romans 14:3 "Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not;
and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath
received him." Romans 14:4 "Who art thou that judgest another man's
servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be
holden up: for God is able to make him stand."
This tells me that to the fulness of the knowledge that we
possess at the time, we should do our best to be pleasing to God.
I Corinthians 10:29 "Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the
other: for why is my liberty judged of another [man's] conscience?"
Here, we see the answer to it all. Whatever we do, we must do it with
a clear conscience. Again I say, God will not hold you responsible
for the things you do not know, if you have made an effort to do what
you believe to be pleasing to Him. Why don't we just let God handle
His business? We are not anyone's judge, God is. What God does with
someone else is not our business.
Romans 14:5 "One man esteemeth one day above another: another
esteemeth every day [alike]. Let every man be fully persuaded in his
own mind."
Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in
drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the
sabbath [days]:" These are both interesting Scriptures, in face of
the fact that, the Jews celebrate Saturday as their Sabbath, and the
Christians celebrate Sunday as the Lord's day or first fruits. We are
told to be fully persuaded that what we are doing is pleasing to God.
We are to celebrate with a clear conscience. Whatever day you esteem,
do it as unto the Lord.
Romans 14:6 "He that regardeth the day, regardeth [it] unto the
Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not
regard [it]. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God
thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth
God thanks."
God is not so interested in the technicality of what day we
celebrate as He is in the fact that we have chosen an individual day
and set it aside to worship in. God wants our heart to be in
worshipping Him. We know that Jesus said, that the sabbath was made
for man and not man for the sabbath. Mark 2:27 "And he said unto
them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:" You
see from this it is not the day that is important, but the fact that
we choose to worship God one day a week.
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Permalink Reply by Hezekiah Ben Israel on
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2 Corinthians 10:2-8 But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh. For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled. Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's. For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:
2Corinithians 11:3-8 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles. But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things. Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely? I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service
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Permalink Reply by Chaplain Pat Harris on
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Bro. Mark, I really do appreciate your concern, and I am not refuting what you have posted. But, please understand this, speaking for myself, and I think I can speak for a couple of others as well, there is no hatred between "us" and "them."
We are all passionate about the Lord, and although we differ in our understanding and interpretations, we do not and cannot hate one another. Our sarcastic humor (often seen as mockery), is just that - humor; having a little fun. We are careful with our humor and we know how far to go - that is to say, we know where the boudaries are. But, when it really boil down to it, we speak what 'thus saith the Lord' and back it up with scriptures. And, we all do it with the intent on teaching others, as well as each other - we're all here to share and learn.
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I agree with this post, but there is honestly only one understanding of the word, but we will all get there together, hopefully. Good post Sister Harris.
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I speak from my heart Bro. Israel.
And, I do believe that the time will come when we are all on the same page.
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There is no rapture, and I will not get caught up in the tribulation because I know how long it is, and I know when it is coming, and I know where to go when it comes.
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Permalink Reply by BruthaPharoah on
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the wilderness of sinai/the place of safety during the great tribulation
honestly brutha watson watch this lesson,it makes clear,the question @hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDOAZtfF0
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Like I said earlier, there will come "the day" . . .Romans 14:11-12
For it is written, AS I LIVE, SAITH THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS TO GOD. So every one of us shall give an account of himself to God.
That will be the day when all of us will be on one page but not all of us will spend eternity in the same place.
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Permalink Reply by Mark H. Stevens, Th.D on
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Chaplain Harris that is YOU, but many on these boards have NOT been friendly but venomous, if we all believe Jesus(Yeshua) is the Messiah and we are calling each other heretics and worst, then I beleive peace is in order. The scriptures are plain....
Romans 14:6 "He that regardeth the day, regardeth [it] unto the
Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not
regard [it]. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God
thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth
God thanks."
Gis NOT concerned about the issues we are arguing about, He is however concerned that we lift up Jesus and preach the Gospel.
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What gospel?
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