Did Paul Keep God's Laws?

[Eccl. 12:13]

Here is a simple question.....Did Paul keep God's Laws?

We know of at least one he kept;


Rom.7
[7] What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

So when Paul read the law and found that to "covet" was a sin, do you think he continued?

But what of the others laws? Do you think Paul kept only the one law, or were there others that he kept?

What about when Paul read the rest of God's laws? When he read that it is a sin to lie, did he stop liying?

When Paul read it was a sin to steel, murder, worship idols, and the others do you think Paul did his best NOT to do those things?

Simple question.....Did Paul keep God's laws?


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[Zealot X]

Anthony,

Failure doesn't mean that you're not keeping them. I know that is hard for you to understand if you don't understand what it means to "keep". But let's just say that if failing them means not keeping them at all then YHWH's mercy, as stated in Exodus 20, would apply to no one.

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

If the only way to keep the commandments was to never fail at keeping the commandments then no one would need his mercy.

No one who supports Torah is telling you that you can never fail or make a mistake. But that is what sin is. It is "missing the mark". But in order to miss the mark or fall short you need to have a mark to aim for. If you aren't even aiming then this is wickedness.




Shalom

[Zealot X]

So YHWH has to perform tests to see how good you can be and if you can't be good then he kills you. But then later he invents a way to make it not matter that you're bad and then change the standards so that its easier to be good. Wow... it really seems like he didn't know what he was doing.

I always thought the gave them the law because he didn't want them hurting each other and him as the other nations were doing. Sodom was not under this "test" but they were still destroyed. Why is that?

Shalom

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

Why is this Dispensation not in the King James version Bible? What Bible has this Dispensation?

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

Hez,

Why is this Dispensation not in the King James version Bible? What Bible has this Dispensation?

Dispensation
noun 1. an act or instance of dispensing; distribution.
2. something that is distributed or given out.
3. a certain order, system, or arrangement; administration or management.
4. Theology. a. the divine ordering of the affairs of the world.
b. an appointment, arrangement, or favor, as by God.
c. a divinely appointed order or age: the old Mosaic, or Jewish, dispensation; the new gospel, or Christian, dispensation.
5. a dispensing with, doing away with, or doing without something.

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Origin:
1325–75; ME dispensacioun < ML dispēnsātiōn- (s. of dispēnsātiō) a pardon, relaxation, LL: order, system, divine grace, L: distribution, equiv. to dispēnsāt(us) (ptp. of dispēnsāre to dispense; see -ate 1 ) + -iōn- -ion

Related forms:

Synonyms:
1. dispersion, meting out, apportioning, dissemination, bestowal.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

What Bible has this dispensation?

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

Where does this word come from? Why can't you just read the Bible like the Bible says you can get knowledge. Read this.


LAW Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them

TESTIMONY 2Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

LAW Isaiah 28:9-13 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

[Hezekiah Ben Israel]

You do not believe that the commandments came from the foundation of the world?

Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for eve

Revelation 22:1-3 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him

Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

[Zealot X]

[Pastor valentine]

Pastor Apostle paul kept the commanments of God.

[Zealot X]

Thanks Pastor Valentine. You have spoken the truth. What did you think of the video I just posted?

Shalom

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

ZealotX,

Why is it that you and others stress the need to keep the Torah and ignore the other 61 books of the Bible? What I mean by this is that you will quote many NT scriptures, but they are always the scriptures that refer to keeping the laws.

We, as Christians, teach/preach the whole Bible - not just the first 5 books. God teaches and ministers through all 66 books of the Bible. If it were not so, then all we would have today would be the Torah. But apparently, God saw fit to provide more than just the Torah.

On the other hand, if that's where you feel you should stay, then so be it. I will continue to study all 66 books of the Bible.

[Eccl. 12:13]

Chaplin Harris, you said;

"What I mean by this is that you will quote many NT scriptures, but they are always the scriptures that refer to keeping the laws."

And yes there are many that say, "keep the commandments"

Are there any scriptures that says we do not have to keep the law? I know there are scriptures that say we are not under the law, but does that mean we are not to to try to keep them?

What about the laws that give eternal life? Should we not attempt to keep these;

Matt.19
[17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
[18] He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
[19] Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Nobody seem able to explain the fact that although Jesus Himself said to keep the law, but Paul, at the same time says we don't have to!

Not under the law does not mean, do not try to keep the law!


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