Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.

[Brotha Seeking the Truth]

The fact is the oldest manuscripts we have are just copies. We do not have the original manuscripts written in the original language.

[John]

You can't have an origianl manuscript and pass it (the one and only) to everyone. Tell me how you do that please!

[John]

Moreh if I said there were errors in the KJV then I'd have to call God a lie and I just can't do that my Brother. I will not say that to the original Hebrew written one the Greek written on either because I feel it is God that did the translations from Hebrew to Greek to English no matter what word changes had to be made to say/represent His preserved Word. I just won't do it and I'll take it to my grave. I'll stand all by myself with this and that's ok with me. Now I'll say that about the NIV, NASB, Amplified, NKV, RSV and all those lines but not the other three. Even if you took a staunch Hebrew speaking person and gave them the original manuscripts and he translated into English without that permission from God to do so I'd wouldn't believe it. So yall can blind fold me and put me in the shooting range, I'm standing. LOL

[Brotha Seeking the Truth]

"You can't have an origianl manuscript and pass it (the one and only) to everyone. Tell me how you do that please!"

You have to make copies, but you must also protect the original just in case someone decides to make any changes not intended by the original author.

We humans have managed to preserve many original works of literature throughout history. Are you saying that God wasn’t able to do the same?

[John]

See this is where we always clash on your Hebrew Root theory and jargon. I'm not having anyone to believe anything. I trust God and not man and I've said this over and over. If God didn't want His Word translated into anything other than Hebrew that is where He would have left it. You can bring me anything that was Hebrew and the person that understands Hebrew did it but if it came not from God's doing then keep it. Your Hebrew State of Mind is killing me. Why don't we all become Hebrew so we can get the real truth is just ridiculous Brother Moreh. Hope you don't take it personally or as trash talking because I'm not. If it appears that way I apologize. I feel one way and you another and we already know our positions. Let's just prove something scriptually and not Hebrew or English. This is another place you and I differ. I don't have my truth foundation built on Hebrew knowledge or understanding. I only want it built on God's knowledge and understanding.

[Brotha Seeking the Truth]

In keeping somewhat with the original intent of this post, since King James was GAY, I wonder if his version of the Bible would have ever been commissioned had he been ran out of the church for frolicking?

[John]

In keeping with the original intent of this post, since King James was GAY, I wonder if his version of the Bible would have ever been commissioned had he been ran out of the church for frolicking?

See Brother, you think like I thought once on what it meant to be named the KJV. It had nothing to do with him or that he wrote it. The translators had to be allowed to do this so God put it in KJ heart to allow them to do this and it was his hatred for the Roman Catholic that made it happen (of course God made it happen). He had no say so in the translations. Don't get it wrong like I did that King James wrote the bible or had anything to do with it except allow it to take place. He just didn't realize it was God that put that in him to make it happen.

[John]

This is a good point Brother and why I'd like to have a topic started on Rightly Dividing the Word because some people really don't understand this. The try to make the whole bible talk to them when it didn't though inspirational for us all. The bible talks to the Jew, Gentile and Christian specifically in parts and as a whole in other parts. You can't make It fit you if It wasn't talking to you. I'm going to start this topic and I know it's going to be good.

[John]

Nope, read what I said. My comment is that understand who the audience is in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and other places in the Bible. Matthew couldn't (nor any other) have added one word to what God wanted in His Holy Book. God wouldn't let man write His Word for Him, please! This is why other bibles are corrupt because man did it.

[John]

I already know you take on the KJV and you know my stance on it and I'll keep my stance on it. Jew, Gentile and Church is not new, it's in the Word. Are you saying God and His prophets in the OT were talking to the Gentiles (He hadn't chosen them yet), the Church (wasn't created yet). He was talking to the Jews/Hebrews/Israelites (His chosen). In Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, Peter and 1,2,3John He was talking to the audience of the Jew because the 12 went to the Jew while Paul to the Gentile though he spoke to some Jews as Peter spoke to some Gentiles. Let's keep it real and hurry up and start that blog my Brother. LOL

[James Pierce]

John,

Whatever bible you feel is good, then read that one. Just do not put down other bibles. There is NO perfect translation out there. All we have are "translations of copies of copies of copies". All we can do is trust the Lord, for which we can do.

[John]

Ok yall, tomorrow I'm putting in two new topics, one on Rightly Dividing God's Word where there is Jew, Gentile and Church and the other let's do Bible Versions so everyone get your stuff ready. I definitely want to see the bibles you are talking about from Hebrew to English Moreh and let's look real close in God's Word for who is being talked to in His Word. I'm looking forward to this in all love of our God and Saviour. God bless you.