Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?
Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.
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Permalink Reply by John on
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No the matter of fact is you haven't heard what I have written. LOL I know that other books by English speaking people wrote before the KJV was done. They were not inspired nor lead by God is what I'm saying. The KJV did not come from those books/writters nor from the Catholic (that's absurd in itself) that is definitely against God and for sure not like the other versions done from Westcott and Hort. I know about the other bibles but as I stated God didn't direct their steps. Just as you may feel what you have is the infallible Word of God this is what I believe in what I have. What I have agreed with you on is the fact that all this time I thougth I could be African and that I am but not in the sense of what I was taught. I admit that I may be from Shem whether it is because my ancestors were like Ishmael in the sense that one was a Caanite and the other a Hebrew or I'm all Hebrew. We also agree on a lot of things in the Word but there are some we have disagreements on. You aren't (by know you should know) going to make me believe that all you have learned have me believe your understanding is all absolute and true as I don't feel I do that for you. We can only get this from the Word and that's what I'm all about. I'm not into man's history because man's history lies. I read and study it but I take it for what it's worth and that is man did it.
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Once again I have to add that though titles in the books are people's names, the author is still God and they couldn't just write what they wanted to write. I don't understand why people don't understand or get that. They act as though God had nothing to do with it but the man wrote the bible just as in the translations of the bible. Not until the modern versisons did man him self write the bibles. God wrote and translated the bible using men and not the other way around.
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We'll just go to scripture because I'm gonna stand until God shows me something different. I've also always said you can take the other books and throw them in the trash that people call God's bible and I'll stand by that also. You and no one else is going to make me think that God preserved His Word and then let man do it by him self. That absolutely make no sense for the very reason you said of making mistakes. God doesn't make mistakes. Then you're going to tell me that Hebrews were not making mistakes right? Only anyone that is not Hebrew. Come on yall have to do better than this when you come at me and I think you know this.
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Brother I already know I'm going to the store to get maylanta, maalox, pepto bismo and some tylenol. LOL But if I"m mistaken I'm not to proud to admit it but it has to be shown to me in the Word and we know this. You know I got thick skin and skull. LOL
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Permalink Reply by Adrian Lamar West Sr. on
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John read the prayer of dedication by Solomon, or you can go back too the Law, and both frequently ask of YAWEH/ to bless also the stranger among them/ who lived as they did/ so yes he speaks to the Gentile also......
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Read what I said below. I know the stranger was there but if they hadn't been in the camps of the Israelites then they would not have been talked to. If God was going to speak to the Gentiles at the same time He wouldn't have needed to choose a people as He did Abraham. This is why He told them to stay away from the Gentiles because they would do what they did and that is idolatry. I understand totally there were STRANGERS but as a whole He was talking to the Hebrew/Israelite/Jew. I'm standing on this!
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I'll start it and yes they spoke of them but not to them in the OT. When Jesus came He didn't go to the Gentiles, He went to the lost sheep (Israelites) and not until Paul was anyone sent to the Gentiles to bring them to Him. We all know there were strangers (Gentiles) in their camps in the OT days but they couldn't participate in everything. I'l start it Brother. LOL
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Yet the gentiles came too him, on many an occassion.......HMMMMM
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They would not be allowed to hold office yet through their seeds/ were they brought into the lineage........
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See I already know you and Brother West didn't read all I said but only see what you want to see. LOL I said that Jesus didn't come to talk to the Gentiles and that strangers that sojourned with the Tribes couldn't perform everything. You and Brother West are telling me they came to Him and you're showing me all the scripture of what they did and I didn't say they didn't but that they (Gentile strangers) couldn't participate in everything.
Gentiles came to Him for sure but did He come to seek the Gentiles or the lost sheep (Tribes)? In Matthew 15:22 - 28 what was He saying. I'm not talking about they (Gentiles) came to Him, I said He didn't come for the Gentiles (yet). In Exodus 12:43, what did God say? I know in verse 44 the man servant bought with money could eat thereof once he was circumcised but before that he was considered a straight Gentile. It's like in the NT for the Church (deny the church if you will) Paul said there is neither Jew nor Gentile. Back then there was neither Jew nor Gentile with that statement from God (using my own understanding on my statement). And I know once again I'm just making something up in Matthew 10:5 - 6 where He also told his disciples where to go but hey that's what I am, not as educated as my Brothers so yall bare with me. LOL God bless. -
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Permalink Reply by Brotha Seeking the Truth on
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"If one is "divorced" they are no longer married? So it would not apply?"
Food for thought Mr. Moreh; however, Jesus had me at "let not man put asunder." I was under the impression that included divorce lawyers and judges as well.
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Permalink Reply by Lester Demings Jr on
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JESUS SAID THAT IF YOU DIVORCE FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN FORNICATION IT IS COUNTED AS ADULTERY!!!
See how church folk will try to "act" like they don't know scripture when you tell them THEIR TRUTH that they don't want to admit?
I am tired of hearing about all these "translations" because if you want to get technical the ONLY homosexuals that Paul talked about where temple prostitutes and feminine acting men.
Or did you not know that?
But I guess you'll have a "translation" against that as well, right?
Lol church folk are funny.
It's amazing to me.
Like I really get a laugh at these people.
I have friends and family who look at some of these people and they honestly LAUGH I mean crying laughing at some of the stuff they read from people WITH TITLES not to mention who want to try and tell somebody else something and just as wrong as two left shoes hahahahaaaa!!!
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