Holy Ghost filled Saints of God is it?

[Evangelist Altha Fugett]

wrong for saved people to go swimming (IN A SWIMSUIT)? or to allow your children to?

I asked this for a reason, I was shocked to find that some feel this sport inappropriate for us or our children.

Now, Am I missing something? is there a prohibition for us in reference to this?, please give me scripture.

[Child of the Kingdom]

You are referring to my earlier post. Please refer to the whole post. I referenced young horny teenagers exposing their uncovered bodies to one another in a public swimming area. Many of the young girls have on 2 piece bikinis and the young men trunks. I have been to a beach in my young age and as a young saved teenager I felt very uncomfortable. I saw mens body part extruding and women over exposed. If this is not an atmosphere for lust then what is.

You must ask yourself, what would Jesus think of this type of environment. I know many of these young people that go to this church function (swimming at the public pool) and most of them are sleeping with each other and the Pastor fully knows it. So many of the young girls have already had babies and some are on their second baby. How can we expect holiness when we as the church helps to fuel the lust that most young people have.

The youth pastor over this particular ministry is in his thirties and he sometimes picks up and carries around young 17 year old fully developed girls. He is married and his wife doesn't like it. His wife has almost gotten into physical fights with these young girls and yet you see nothing wrong with young people going swimming together. Some things are just common since and don't need a verbatim scriptural reference. The word homosexual isn't in the bible either but are we to assume that this practice okay. No one has said that swimming is wrong but neither is the Church teaching young SAVED people how to dress properly. Unfortunately, young people these days would not be caught dead in a wholesome, modest swimsuit. As I mentioned, many of them choose the most revealing piece of tramp wear they can find. They want to reveal breast and butt to the young men and preachers that are over them.

Ask yourself,. would they prance around in front of Jesus with this mess on. I know that I won't get alot of amens on this but I am tired of these weak fearful message preached by church leaders in an attempt to pacify men's flesh. Our young people are so promiscuous these days that virgins are few and far between. The church shouldn't be an enabler to lewd sexual behavior. Don't try to make this sound like some innocent sport when most who go swimming in youth groups spend more time groping and grabbing than swimming.

[Evangelist Altha Fugett]

Sister, first off let me apologize to you, and ask forgiveness, the way I addressed you in the other post without really knowing you was not Christlike!

I have a work background where I've heard and seen so many horror stories and seen many young people kept away from society for the reason of abuse mentally and physically, with the approval of their mothers because of ignorance and fear.

however, I don't know you, or your family and I over -reacted, forgive me.

With that said, we are NOT going to see eye on eye on this, I don't believe sheltering children from the ills of the world is the right
way of teaching them to deal with a sinful world that will be sinful until Jesus' return. We are to teach them right from wrong, we are to train them up in Holiness, we are to be examples in front of them, so that they see that there is a difference between unsaved and saved, through us.

Now in your particular situation, what you wrote about, I would have issues with as well. In reference to your youth pastor.

but I do not see anything wrong with youths or adults going swimming, now of course we as saved women know how to pick out swimwear that will not expose our private areas, and in even doing that, we already know that some men minds are going to go where they are going to go. Right here on this site we see some crying about dresses, pants, hat, toes and feet....

We have no control over someone else, however we have the Power of the Holy Ghost if we allow it to control us.

When children are sheltered they do one thing, REBEL, now taught the Word, some will tow the line, but don't forget about the prodigal child, some have a need to go down a different road to see the light.

I am a mother, aunt, and grandmother, I understand, we as parents must train up our children, and IF THEY DEPART, (that means some will)
we must have faith that the seeds we have sown, will tug at their hearts and saved their lives.


Adam and Eve were in the garden naked in the prescences of God, our bodies are not evil, were created in the image of God, it is the intent of the heart that makes things like swimming? evil ?

You felt uncomfortable because lust was an issue with YOU, it's not with everybody

[Child of the Kingdom]

Lady at the time I went to the beach and saw bodies over exposed, I was 13 years old and my discomfort had nothing to do with lust but the fact that I saw something I had never seen before. You are not a good example for let the older women teach the younger women. My church taught us to cover up and what I saw was a shameful display of flesh.

[Child of the Kingdom]

You love to insult me which is okay, because the Pharisees insulted Jesus all the time. I only pray for you as your comprehension of what I have articulated in all my post in elementary. First off, I have been saved and filled with the Holyghost since age 10. I have endured a lot during this time as have many children of God. I know that I will always encounter people such as yourself who have a form of Godliness but lack true understanding and will insult others because of it.

First off, you have mistaken, come ye out from among them with sheltering. My children are not sheltered but trained up in the way they should go. You suggest that because we homeschool our children will rebel. Lady you have problems that only God can fix if you don't see the rebelliousness in Most of the children who go to public school and in all of America for that matter. My children know what is going on in this world because we teach them from a biblical standpoint. I refuse to let the public school teach my children that homosexuality is normal, fornication is alright and that being a pedophile is okay. When we teach our children on these subject matters it's from a Godly standpoint. They understand that it is sin and not taught that it is okay.

Having children and grandchildren don't make you a professional. I see women such as yourself all the time who have not properly trained your children and they have issue on top of issue. If you feel I'm wrong for teaching my daughters to wait for marriage before giving it up and teaching my sons to make sure his wife is saved and that he treats her right then you need prayer. Everything I have said in my post is biblical but yet you disagree. How dare you disagree and bash our decision to keep our children safe. If you read or watch the news you would know that the public school system is a disgrace. More than 200,000 black families and growing have chosen to homeschool but that does not make us sick hermitts. Our children participate in events, programs, community affairs and competitions just like everyone else.

The public school is a breeding ground for all types of degenerate behaviors. You continue to question my salvation because I choose to keep my children safe because your salvation my be what you truly question. I didn't say that swimming was wrong I merely pointed out the sexually arousing environment it creates for young people. You like to twist words to fit your evil agenda. We will certainly not agree on this because I and my husband have been placed as stewards over our children. You on the other hand feel that being a homeschooler is a crime. According to you I should let my daughters play with the sexually active 10 year olds around the corner.

One little neighborhood girl asked my daughters to tongue kiss her or she wouldn't be their friend and my daughters responded, well I guess we won't be friends then. I suppose you think my children we wrong and should have obliged this little girl. Their response to you probably means that they have been over sheltered and needs to run with the crowd and do what they do. My son at 11 was teased for not having a girlfriend. I suppose you think he's sheltered because we won't allow him to kiss on and sleep with girls like his little ex-classmates do. You people make me sick with these judgments on people who decide to take a stand against our government stranglehold on our children.

You need to take the time to read The mis-education of black people as you seem to think the public school is doing us justice. For the record, homeschooling doesn't mean rebellion. Ask the millions of parents who send their children to public school about their children's disrespect and rebellion. You probably don't even know enough homeschool families to determine that their children rebel so please stop passing judgment Lady.

[Evangelist Altha Fugett]

Whatever!!!

The Word of God says in Heb. 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

that is why I considered my ways and came humbly to you in repentence. If being shut up in the house in Kentucky, not being able to fellowship with anyone other than those who COME to you, is an example of your righteousness. I cast pearls no longer to the swine.

[Child of the Kingdom]

If you consider calling a Child of God who has done you no wrong, not Christlike an apology then you are in serious need of prayer. You haven't come to me peaceful but as a bitter adversary. You are funny Lady. Our home life wasn't presented to you as our righteousness but that is once again how you comprehend wrongly. I know you get great joy thinking that we are shut in our house in Kentucky waiting for others to come to us. I am sorry to burst your bubble but you don't know me nor my family. God has blessed us with a big home that we don't mind staying in and are happy to invite others in as well.

However, when our family vacations or fellowships outside of our home we choose to make it meaningful and cause worthy. Your perception of righteous living is in the gutter and you are not a good representative of Christ. You seem to be a trouble maker who hides under your religious cloak. God can definitely see your true self and I am sure it is not pleasing. God's people don't act the way you do. If you chose to persecute me for righteousness sake then so be it.

You sound like a bitter woman and I hope that you can get past whatever issue you have taken against a perfect stranger. Our exchange of words all began because I commented on a video someone else placed implicating your Bishop God in under cutting Gods word. You think that you are trying to make peace by continuing with insults and you have no idea who I am or what God has done for me.

I don't know you and all I can say is that you may be going through something right now so I will only hope that you get through whatever it is. If that is not the case and this is just who you are then I feel sorry for you. You can't understand how God can bless some unless they are a complete clone of you. You sound as if you are the woman the bible describes when it says her feet dwelleth not in her home and she is a busybody in other folks matters.

Leave the hypocrisy alone and stop bothering me with your unprovoked lunacy. You don't sound like a Christian at all but you do sound just like what Jesus said to the Pharisees. (You are of your father the devil.) Get the hence Satan and stop with this unGodly Nonsense. You obviously can't get with the truth. Truth is this World is changing quickly and we must all get ready for the return of Christ and I can no longer entertain the juvenile back and forth mess with you. You sound very immature for your age and nothing like the Church mothers I'm use to.

You need to grow up lady and start acting like a Child of God and not pals with Satan. Just leave me alone with this mess. We obviously will not agree on many issues so lets just leave it at that.