Have church has become worst than dogs? Gallup an internet polling website reports that 69% of those who attend church weekly say that premarital sex in morally acceptable. What is going on?


I think there is a problem in the teaching that's going forth concerning sexual addictions. It's being swept under a carpet instead of exposing and dealing with it. The leaders aren't taking this sin serious enough and some are even telling the people it's okay, God still loves you. Esau was a fornicator, a profane person who did not take the spiritual things of God serious enough, he even sold his birth right for a morsel of meat. He was a habitual fornicator that could not repent even though he sought it with tears. God gives every man and woman space to repent of their fornication, and if they wait and allow the space to run out they will become reprobate. Unable to repent or break the habit of lust and fornication. How can one get free from this sin? What they must he do? I want to here your answers.

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SINCE THE DAYS OF THE SONS OF ELI, HOPHNI, AND PHINEAS AND THE TEMPLE "WHORES' WHO GATHERED OUTSIDE THE "CHURCH" DOORS, HOPING TO ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITIES WITH SOME "MAN OF GOD", OR SOMEBODY'S HUSBAND, BROTHER, FATHER,SON, NEPHEW OR UNCLE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE NOW IS THAT THEY HAVE PROGRESSED THROUGH THE TEMPLE DOORS AND ARE ON THE INSIDE, BOLD AS CUFF! IF WE SET AND MAINTAIN A STANDARD OF HOLINESS IN DRESS, CONDUCT AND RELATIONSHIPS, ESPECIALLY AMONGST THE YOUNGER PEOPLE, WE MAY HEAD OFF SOME OF THIS SIN. NOT LONG AGO, THE SAINTS WATCHED THE YOUTH (WE KNOW MORE OF THE "SEASONED" SAINTS ARE FORNICATING, THAN YOU CAN SHAKE STICK AT) AND SOMEONE WAS ALWAYS POSTED UP WATCHING AND OVERSEEING THEM. IF WE WOULD SET BOUNDARIES AND A DRESS CODE AND CHASTISE, IN LOVE, WHEN SOMEONE SHOWS UP INAPPROPRIATELY DRESSED AFTER BEING TAUGHT BETTER, AND REMIND THE SAINTS THAT WE ARE SISTERS AND BROTHERS IN CHRIST, COMMITTING SPIRITUAL "INCEST", EXCEPT WHEN GOD PUTS A COUPLE TOGETHER IN MARRIAGE, WE MAY GAIN BACK SOME CONTROL. SOME OF THE MESSAGES THAT COME OVER THE PULPITS ARE FILLED WITH INNUENDO AND SEDUCTION AND SUGGESTIVE REFERENCES. SOME OF OUR PRAISE DANCING GARMENTS AND THE ACTUAL DANCES CROSS THE BOUNDARIES OF HOLINESS AND SERVE AS DOORS OF ENTICEMENT. I CAN TESTIFY OF BEING KEPT NEARLY FIFTEEN YEARS, THANKS BE UNTO GOD, AND I NEVER ONCE HAD A SEIZURE, NEEDED A "THERAPIST,, HAD TO TAKE A SEDATIVE, OR SUFFERED A PERSONALITY CRISIS BECAUSE OF IT. GOD SAID HE WOULD "KEEP" WHATEVER YOU COMMITT TO HIM AGAINST THAT DAY, AND FOR MANY "THAT DAY" IS CALLED TEMPTATION. HE KNEW TEMPTATION WOULD COME AND MADE A WAY OF ESCAPE, AND IT'S THE BLOOD AND THE NAME OF JESUS! HE SAID IN THE MODEL PRAYER " AND DELIVER US FROM EMPTATION AND ALL THAT IS EVIL,SO WE KNOW HE WAS AWARE, AND IF YOU COMMITT YOUR WORKS TO HIM , YOUR THOUGHTS SHALL BE ESTABLISHED. IF YOU PETITION HIM, HE WILL ENABLE YOU TO FLEE YOUTHFUL LUST AND PRESENT YOUR BODY A LIVING SACRIFICE.EITHER WE BELIEVE THAT THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF THE LAMB STILL HAS WONDER WORKING POWER OR WE DON'T. IF WE GENUINELY BELIEVE THAT OUR GOD SHALL SUPPLY "ALL" OF OUR NEEDS, THEN WE NEED TO TRUST HIM TO SUPPLY AN ANSWER TO OUR CARNAL NEEDS AS WELL. WE HAVE CONVINCED OURSELVES (INCLUDING PREACHERS) THAT WE "HAVE TO HAVE SEX, BECAUSE WE HAVE "NEEDS"! WELL GOD HAS "NEEDS" TOO,HE "NEEDS YOU TO POSSESS YOUR "VESSEL" UNTO HONOR! THE ONLY LIFE THREATENING "NEEDS" WE HAVE ARE FOOD, WATER, AIR, AND CHRIST, BECAUSE WITHOUT EITHER OF THESE, WE SHALL SURELY DIE! WE CONDUCT OURSELVES LIKE HE MADE US A "LITTLE LOWER THAN THE ANIMALS WITH NO CONTROL OVER OUR BASE INSTNCTS WHO "RUT" OR FORNICATE AT WILL, WHENEVER, WHEREVER, HOWEVER, AND WITH WHOM OR WHATEVER WE FELL LIKE? UNFORTUNATELY,AND TOO OFTEN, THE SPIRTUAL IMPURITY, PORNOGRAPHY, PERVERSION AND LUST DWELLS ON THE "HEAD" OF PASTOR/LEADERS, AND EVEN AS THE "OIL" RAN DOWN FROM AARON'S BEARD, TO THE EDGE OF HIS GARMENT (FLOCK), SO DOES WHATEVER STRONGHOLD OR INIQUITY EVIDENT IN THE PASTOR/LEADER'S LIFE MANIFEST AMONGST THE FLOCK. I BELIEVE THAT IN A CHURCH COMMITTED TO A LIFESTYLE OF HOLINESS, THAT COMMANDS SANCTIFICATION,CONSISTENTLY AND EARNESTLY GATHERS AROUND THE ALTAR IN PROSTRATION BEFORE THE LORD, EVIDENCING EARNEST LIFESTYLES OF HOLINESS, AND STEADFASTLY WATCHING AND PRAYING, FORNICATION AND ALL OTHER SINS WLL BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND A DOORWAY OF ENTRY. FOR THOSE GENUINELY STRUGGLING IN THEIR FLESH, THEY NEED TO WRESTLE AND TRAVAIL IN PRAYER AND SUPPLICATION UNTIL THEY ARE ASSURED OF A BREAK THROUGH, REBUKE AND CAST DOWN LUSTFUL THOUGHTS, IMAGES, AND IMAGINATIONS,RENOUNCE ALL SEXUALSOUL TIES, AND HIDE THEMSELVES IN GOD, LIVING WORSHIPFUL SUBMITTED LIVES, UNTIL GOD TRANSLATES THEM INTO MATRIMONY. SOMEIMES ONE SHOULD ANOINT THEIR PHYSICAL BODY AND REDEDICATE IT TO THE LORD FOR HIS USE, AND CRY OUT FOR HIM TO PURGE YOU WITH HYSSOP, AND KEEP YOU NEAR THE CROSS.
Maybe if we look up the biblical meaning of fornication, we would not be so confused!
ARE WE? NO ONE TOLD ME!
Praise the Lord!

Brother Pierce since you put it out there... What is the Biblical Meaning of fornicaton...Don't leave your comment hanging........come on break it down....!!!
Lisa,

The Hebrew is Zanah. The meanings are as follows:

1) to commit fornication, be a harlot, play the harlot

a) (Qal)

1) to be a harlot, act as a harlot, commit fornication

2) to commit adultery

3) to be a cult prostitute

4) to be unfaithful (to God) (fig.)

b) (Pual) to play the harlot

c) (Hiphil)

1) to cause to commit adultery

2) to force into prostitution

3) to commit fornication

The Greek is Porneia. The meanings are as follows:

1) illicit sexual intercourse

a) adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.

b) sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18

c) sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mk. 10:11,12

2) metaph. the worship of idols

a) of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the sacrifices offered to idols


Christianity reveals that 2 virgins cannot have sex unless they "put the ring on". No where above is that the case. If 2 decide to commit to each other, and consumate their commitment through sex, then they have not sinned!
Thank you Bro pierce.............I just wanted you to break it out....and to know your thoughts about the subject......it's good to have More 1 detail comment to read.
When you say commit to each other, are you saying marriage? Because people commit themselves all the time when dating, and they will have sex the whole time until they break up and go to the next commitment.
This is where I think I and James disagree, James am I right that you feel two committed people in a relationship without the benefit of marriage is not fornication?
As for the original question, I feel ones male/female have not the power of the Holy Ghost.

They have no control over their flesh
Evan,

I am saying that two people committed who have sex without a "ceremony" has not sinned.
Are you saying committed as in being committed in marriage without the ceremony, as in they both have taken marriage vows between themselves and the both are in agreement with marriage. or like Common-law marriage? or that two people committed are considered married in the sight of God. What if they go through the process with several different people, and break the commitment, then what?
Rest,

Sex is what seals the and consumates the commitment. If one goes through several different people, has sex with them, and breaks up, then that person is guilty of fornication(see meanings above). No where in scripture did it EVER command ceremonial vows. That is tradition. When you meet your spouse, and commit to her, and she to you, and ya'll have sex, then ya'll are married in Yehwah's eyes. No one needs a "ceremony"

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